N800 is piece of crap
 

I got my N800 for more a little more than a month and start to hate this piece of sh*t. It got too many bugs. The browser just constantly crashes with the message "internal error, application web closed". When it works, wifi just drops connection too often, so I got to disconnect and reconnect for it to work again and keep doing it till tired and piss on it. Refresh application manager never works. It crashed one of my SD card too. This is a internet tablet and cannot connect to the internet very stably. What is it for then? is the N810 better or just same kind of crap. Anybody got a good recommendation for a portable internet devive that can do the job well?

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I'm not actually a tablet fanboy, but it sounds like you're 1 step away from blaming it for global warming, endangering the panda bear, and that ache in your knee you get whenever it rains...

Did you flash the latest version of the OS? Most of the bugs have been worked out in OS2008. I've never heard of a tablet damaging an SD card... sounds like that tablet needs an exorcism.

Anyway. You're probably looking at an OQO or something. There's nothing comparable to the Nokia tablets on the market yet, so a $1200 UMPC is your best bet... til XP crashes.

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a laptop.

what os are you running?

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Sorry to pick on you when there are plenty of other examples, but what is with this tone of complaining to the people on this forum like we made the (770 || N800 || N810) or that we *care* that you hate it or that we exist to guess why you don't like it and fix your problems.
Anyways, have you tried updating the firmware on it, even once? The problem with SDHC cards was fixed months ago. As for the N810, if you'd read even a couple posts here you would know that the N810 is an N800 with a keyboard and GPS. If you install the 2008OS firmware on your N800 you'll end up with almost exactly the same experience as buying an N810.
Want help from the people on this forum: Learn how to ask questions the smart way first.
Just want to whine and complain: Please do it quietly in your own home.
Want to know what other people on this forum think are reasonable competitors to the Nokia Internet Tablets: Look at the competitors forum here.

-John

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I haven't seen any thing that crashes too often as my N800. The browser will crash once out of 4 times I open it. Wifi connection always drops doesn't matter whose network I connect to. I may try the oqo 02. $200 price tag is very nice but what scene does it make if it doesn't always work. I am still running latest 2007 OS and like the form factor of the N800 very much.

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i have also owned my n800 for just over a month but my experience of it has been nothing like what you are describing! i have never had my browser crash once!

try flashing to the latest version of the operating system. this might solve your issues.

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I have an N800 with OS2008 and I love it! Everything that I need works. It's extremely rare that applications crash. You might have a defective unit.

Upgrade your N800 to OS2008. Give that a try. What do you have to lose?

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you're a piece of crap...........not really, but what the f''' are you talking about? buy an iphone.

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Hmm, you might try reflashing your tablet and then making sure _not_ to restore any backed up settings. My tablet had some similar issues with the browser crashing all the time when I upgraded to OS2008. After I reflashed without importing settings, everything seems to be fine.

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Sounds like you've managed to corrupt your settings or somesuch. A reflash without restoring a backup will clear this up.

Sounds like you've got a pretty mediocre router or a defective unit (incredibly unlikely with these symptoms). Have have my N800 connected to at least 3 different routers a day and often times more, and it holds a connection to all of them better than any laptop. :)

This is more of an issue of the wording of the error message than an actual issue. That is, unless, you've managed to royally screw yours sources.list. Check the log that's located in the Application Manager menu if you actually want help getting this issue solved.

This is impossible if this statement is actually factually accurate:

So either you are screwing up your own SD cards (likely) or you're on an old version of OS2007 without the SDHC patches (unlikely, as the situation which would bring about difficulties with the older firmware is very uncommon).

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I understand what you say, sometimes my N800 makes me crazy too, but I LOVE it. I understand its limitations and the iT understand mines. :D

What I realized after using the tablet everyday for almost the year is that the Flash experience sucks, specially with the MicroB browser. Heavy use of this component in some sites make the iT unstable and ready to crash the browser with 100% of CPU usage.

But hey! You won't find any better browser experience for this size and this price tag on the market.

And the connection dropping issue is not ok. Actually, that part of the tablet is very stable. Why don't you try the OS2008 to see what happens?

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I wish people would just explain their problems and ask their questions without being jerks about it. It really makes me feel like NOT getting involved. I'm going to follow that instinct.

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I've had my N800 for almost a year, and I've never seen the error message
"internal error, application web closed"

That makes me think that the op has done something to contribute to the delinquency...

Come to think of it, the op doesn't even mention os2008. Maybe he doesn't know about it, and has just dropped in to devastate us all with his trenchant criticism. Or maybe he's one of those who doesn't know how to reflash his N800, which is what I'd do if I had inexplicable problems that other N800 users don't have.

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Actually, the 'internal error' error used to be quite common. So I think the advice to flash to the latest fw without restoring from backup is spot on.

And for what the tone of his post is concerned; a device that doesn't do what you might expect can drive you nuts.

@cyberghost: if you want help here, please ease up.

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i just got my n800 and since im a hacking addict i have done unspeakable with my device, i have stressed it boyond imagination (:)exageration) and i have tested its capabilities, and it only crashed the browser once but no message, the only problem i see with it is the app manager can't install everything which makes no sense but it works eventually.

as for wireless- my bedroom is ~100ft away from the router and there are 3 walls(1cement2pladour*)in between. My laptop get a max of "low" or 2 bars----my n800 gets all, perfect connection, fast and reliable.

Man where did u buy yours???? it might be deffective? or did u gt so dumb u actually killed it?:rolleyes:

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I love my N800 (OS 2008 Beta) only bugs are a few crashes and GPS (Bluetooth ext) takes 3 hours every time to locate! Can't wait of rthe OS 2008 full version :) I am getting my sone one for Christmas. Never had any WiFi disconnect!? totally stable that way.

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I love my N800, but I gotta say:
- a Linux computer ought not crash. My whole machine goes down about once a week, and apps are always crashing. The machine going down looks like dud drivers. Sure hope OS 2008 fixes that;
- the application manager is *awful*. When a repo is down, it ought to just give me a message and skip it, not just *stop there*. And the message ought to offer me the option of turning off the repo right there, not make me play "hunt the repo" based on the error message
- there are numerous ways in which the Nokia engineers clearly haven't really got the whole "human factors" or "user friendly" thing. eg the BT icon that disappears when you turn BT off, which I understand is *still* not fixed in 2008. Or the tortuous path to change something like the proxy settings (which are, even then, set "per connection" with no global setting available).

I could go on. It's a great device, nothing like it. But Nokia isn't even on the same planet as Apple when it comes to spit and polish. Sure, who is? But they're not close to, say, Ubuntu, either.

Perhaps the tablet market is small enough that Nokia can't put the resources into it that it would need to fix this stuff, and I should be grateful that we have the N800 at all. I certainly am grateful, and I suspect that this is likely the explanation.

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Just when I thought the flamebaiting had gotten stale...

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Nice thread ... but let's just focus on the discount codes availability :D

mwahaha salt on the wound

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The only thing that crashes often on mine is Skype. I'm running the latest OS2007 version, with maybe a dozen add-on apps that I use moderately frequently.

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The op wants to tell you this: maybe you don't use your tablet enough to see that error. Go and ask around to see who hasn't seen that error. The op also wants to let you know the op's n800 has been flashed a few times and did not get it resolved. OS2008 seems to fix wifi issue but not the error issue. The op also hates the keyboard in os2008. It doesn't have caplock key.That sucks.

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A. Talking about yourself in 3rd person is an indicator of a mental disorder, and B. The fullsreen thumbboard is better, anyway.

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Press and hold the Shift key for a few seconds, the caps lock will be activated.

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I love my N800. I could not imagine being a fan of something like that before, but I am. As a result it replaces about half of the time I spend with desktop or notebook computer now and there are a lot of new scenarios.

I take it with me to hikes to be able to find where we are using previously downloaded map. It is useful for travel, in addition to a small portable router. Finally I leave my notebook at home! I still can browse internet, answer email, select photos from camera's SD card, read books during the flight. I can also listen music or audio-books. All of that can be done in cafe, in a hotel or during long metro ride.

About caps-lock: I would prefer language switch. Capslock is quite useless, but you need language switch if you have to work with non-English texts.

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not sure if this was stated yet, wireless issues is prob interference u need to change the channel on the router now for app manager if ur using other resp. other then nokias u need to disable those resp temp to refresh then after enable again

hope that helps

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Dear god man. Please go back and learn how to type. :rolleyes:

Since he says the wireless issues have cleared up with OS2008, it probably has nothing to do with interference.

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:d........

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"The op wants to tell you this: maybe you don't use your tablet enough to see that error. Go and ask around to see who hasn't seen that error. The op also wants to let you know the op's n800 has been flashed a few times and did not get it resolved. OS2008 seems to fix wifi issue but not the error issue. The op also hates the keyboard in os2008. It doesn't have caplock key.That sucks.
Reply With Quote"

well, I've used it for at least four hours a day for a year, and more than 8 hours a day many, many days. Is that enough?

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As has been noted, those errors seem to depend a great deal on specific circumstances... and if users don't encounter the "right" ones, they likely won't see the error. Such as when many complained of the Opera browser crashing when it didn't for me (for a long time anyway); turns out for the most part the number 1 culprit was choice of websites. Mine were safer.

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I`ve had my tablet for a while now and it had a 33 day uptime without any errors,only reason I restarted was to update to new OS and I love it even more! (specially now that gizmo supports video and video calls to other than just another tablet are now possible)

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I'm glad they ditched the caps+shift approach -- that makes no sense to me. I'd prefer double-shift to lock over hold to lock, but either is better than a wasted key.

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Want to sell it?
Buy.com has new ones for $180.

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You may not want mine. I will try to improve it.

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cyberghost ... what types of sites do you visit? Any idea which sites crash your N800? I see the "Application Web closed" error every now and then. Just when I think I won't see it again, it rears its ugly head. I believe it happens when I'm running multiple instances of "Web" using the MicroB (beta) engine or I'm surfing a AJAX (JavaScript-intensive) web site such as www.meebo.com or www.gmail.com. Seems to me that my CPU is pegged and RAM is maxed out right before a crash.

Maybe it would be more stable if I ran the original Opera engine, but then I wouldn't be able to visit some of these AJAX sites at all. /-: I hope OS2008 is the silver bullet d-;

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The message appeared on mine was very unpredictable. Sometime just connecting to an AP and woila there it is even I didn't open any web instance. With os2008, the message doesn't seem to appear any more and just close without any notice. A lot of websites cclose the browser. Try and see if you can open www.samsung.com and wait until it is fully loaded.