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janjansenbe 2008-01-07 08:38

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 122179)
The card can be bought here:

http://www.expansys.nl/p.aspx?i=158255

I can't find the adapter in their online catalogue, but who knows? Keep an eye out for it; the search function is rather good.

I've bought quite a lot of stuff from Expansys; their service to Belgium is impeccable, but they are not the cheapest shop around.

Waar in Vlaanderen zit ge ergens?

Hi Karel,

The question is if both the microSD and adapter from Expansys will work or not with the N810 ?

http://www.expansys.nl/p.aspx?i=158255
http://www.expansys.nl/p.aspx?i=142629

Jan

Karel Jansens 2008-01-07 14:49

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by janjansenbe (Post 122363)
Hi Karel,

The question is if both the microSD and adapter from Expansys will work or not with the N810 ?

http://www.expansys.nl/p.aspx?i=158255
http://www.expansys.nl/p.aspx?i=142629

Jan

OK, got it. Have you considered asking them if you can try them out with a return option? They usually reply quite quickly to questions.

BTW, good find on the adapter

makel 2008-01-08 20:13

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
I have also those problems with my Sandisk 8GB mirco sdhc card and Kingston adapter. First time when I put card to 810 it works, but whole device got jammed. Had to take battery out. Now it only says "Memory Card Corrupted or Unformatted".

My 2GB Kingston mini sd works just fine.

Texrat 2008-01-08 20:15

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Starting to look more and more like a card-to-adapter compatibility issue...

Xyzo 2008-01-08 20:45

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
My own experience: yesterday I've bought a 8Gb Sandisk micro-SD and a PNY micro-to-mini adapter. No problem in my N800 (using a mini-to-SD adapter). Today my N810 arrived by UPS: I've put the micro-SD and its adapter into it and... it works :)
What is sure is that each parts are very small and it's not always easy to put the micro-SD into the adapter, so some may be encounter problems when all parts are not perfectly aligned... just my opinion...

janjansenbe 2008-01-09 10:31

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xyzo (Post 123537)
My own experience: yesterday I've bought a 8Gb Sandisk micro-SD and a PNY micro-to-mini adapter. No problem in my N800 (using a mini-to-SD adapter). Today my N810 arrived by UPS: I've put the micro-SD and its adapter into it and... it works :)
What is sure is that each parts are very small and it's not always easy to put the micro-SD into the adapter, so some may be encounter problems when all parts are not perfectly aligned... just my opinion...

Hi,

Where did you bought your microSD and your adapter. What means 'PNY' ?

Cheers, Jan

munky261 2008-01-09 13:15

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
PNY is a brand of memory

promethh 2008-01-09 14:51

Confirmed: MiniSD-to-MicroSDHC adapter issue!
 
I have a SanDisk 8GB microSDHC Class 6 card which I ordered from MobilePlanet that came with a microSDHC-to-miniSDHC adapter. As mentioned in an earlier post, it worked everywhere (Sony VAIO, PS3, Dell running Ubuntu, Vista) BUT on the Nokia N810.

I have since tested the SAME 8GB microSDHC in Kingston and Palm microSDHC-to-miniSDHC adapters in the Nokia N810, and they work!

I'm currently using my 8GB Sandisk microSDHC in my Nokia N810 using a Palm microSDHC-to-miniSDHC adapter. I've been running it solid for over a week now without any errors. I have yet to see the "unmounted mmc" issue described here and elsewhere.

At least for me, there appears to be a definite issue with the adapter from SanDisk. Using an adapter from another manufacturer seems to solve the issue. From my own experience, I'd recommend a Palm adapter for a solid connection without random disconnects/umounts.

Texrat 2008-01-09 15:03

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Nice work promethh.

Definitely a tolerancing issue, then. It's additionally possible that something about the N810 slot exacerbates the issue upon card insertion.

promethh 2008-01-09 15:13

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Thanks. Most of the micro-to-miniSDHC adapters I've seen are $6.99-$19.99 (USD) depending on the source. I picked up the Palm adapter from a local Palm store. The Kingston adapter is courtesy of www.froogle.com

At that costs, it's worth the experimentation. I'm sorry to see the SanDisk adapter doesn't work there where it works in many other devices, and I'm not 100% satisfied with tolerance as an answer. I'm sure SanDisk will push it off as "it works on most devices" and Nokia will push it off as "it's a SanDisk issue". Unfortunately, adapters are cheap enough that it's an issue that might not go addressed?

Texrat 2008-01-09 15:15

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Given the known details, I don't see how it can be anything but tolerancing. That's what experience tells me anyway. But I'm betting we'll know for sure sooner or later.

plex 2008-01-09 15:46

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
I was having a hard finding an off-the-shelf memory solution here in Central Iowa. I consulted with my friend Ebay, and ended up buying a PNY micro-mini adapter from one US source, and a SanDisk 8GB micro from another US source. Most sorces are Hong Kong and shipping takes a few days more. Look in the description to find the US based merchants.

I put the two piece together, slid it into the N810 (after manipulating that crazy cover they engineered) and mine works flawlessly.

--Plex

Xyzo 2008-01-09 21:35

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by janjansenbe (Post 123946)
Hi,

Where did you bought your microSD and your adapter. What means 'PNY' ?

Cheers, Jan

Hi!
Sorry for the delay in replying. I haven't bought them on the Net, but in the street in a ThePhoneHouse shop, here in France. The Sandisk 8Gb they had was the only one in stock and the girl has opened a PNY package (microSD + micro-to-mini + mini-to-SD) to give me (yes, for free!) the micro-to-mini adapter :)

Freiheit666 2008-01-10 09:54

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
For what its worth Ive got a Kingston 4GB sdhc card in whatever mini adapter came with my RAZR phone, and it seems to work fine.

ercanmetin 2008-01-10 19:42

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
YES! just received the sandisk memory kit
http://sandisk.com/Products/Item(233...y_Kit_1GB.aspx

just search SDSDQ-1024-A11MK on ebay, and purchase it!
It works, only thing is now that I have 1gb micro sd that I don't need
but 8GB card works with N810! FINALLY!

When I first put the card in, it said unformatted or corrupted memory card,
I took it out formatted Fat32 on windows, put it back
it works!

ercanmetin 2008-01-10 19:45

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
I don't know if FAT32 is the way to go, for 8gb card on N810
is there any other format anybody recommends(maybe works faster on linux)
I'm pretty new to linux I mean I have some machines that I have linux on but
don't use them much, so If I need a linux machine to format my 8gb micro sd
just tell me which format
:)

twoblackdogs 2008-01-11 21:41

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
This may sound simplistic, but if your card doesn't work, try pushing it into the slot harder. It is harder to push in than I realized, so at first I thought my card wasn't working. Turns out it was just me.

ovjo12 2008-01-12 12:55

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
It works for me with a with a 8GB SanDisk microSDHC (class 4) in a micro-to-miniSDHC adapter.
To get me the SanDisk adapter, I also bought a SanDisk MicroSD Multi SD Kit with a 1 Gb SanDisk microSDHC.
Read more here: http://ovenordstrom.blogspot.com/200...-n810-has.html

Milhouse 2008-01-12 18:23

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
The no-name microSD to miniSD adapter I bought is working fine with a SanDisk 8GB SDHC card... such a shame the N810 doesn't like the SanDisk adapter as it's likely a lot of people will be buying this make and having a bad experience with the N810 as a result.

It definately seems to be a problem with the N810 rather than the adapter, and it may well be a tolerance issue but it's the N810 that has the tolerance issue as all other card readers seem to work fine with the SanDisk adapter.

Milhouse 2008-01-12 23:18

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
I guess I spoke too soon. :(

I took my 8GB SDHC C4 card out of the N810, and now it refuses to recognise it when I put it back. When I close the door, dmesg just reports the following:

Code:

[ 1032.867187] menelaus 1-0072: Setting voltage 'VMMC' to 3100 mV (reg 0x0a, val 0xf8)
[ 1032.890625] menelaus 1-0072: Setting voltage 'VMMC' to 3000 mV (reg 0x0a, val 0xb8)
[ 1035.250000] menelaus 1-0072: Shutting off 'VMMC'

Needless to say it works perfectly in a card reader.

What a total PITA! :(

Milhouse 2008-01-13 00:12

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Got it working again! :)

When I last removed the miniSD adaptor from the N810 I also took out the microSD card, and when I put it all back together again I jammed the microSD card as firmly into the miniSD card as I could - bad idea!

Pushing the card hard into the adapter seems to prevent the adapter/card/N810 combination from working... to get it working again I pulled the microSD card out of the miniSD adapter and this time re-inserted it gently - I didn't push it in any futher once I felt the miniSD adapter "grip" the microSD card. Then I slipped the miniSD adapter into the N810 and clicked it home by using the stylus to push on the adapter and NOT the card (so that I didn't push the card any further into the adapter).

Works for me! :)

fredz 2008-01-14 13:58

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
I purchased a Sandisk 8 GB SDHC (SDSDQR-8192) and used the adapter of the Kingston card (which ships with the SDC/2GB-2ADP or 1 GB for a few euros, including the memory card). This works perfectly fine on my N810. Woohoo!

wsgrant 2008-02-22 03:06

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
I too have a Sandisk 8GB microSDHC(SDSDQR-8192-A11M) and I too used it with a Kingston mini adapter(it came with a 4GB Mobility kit MBLY/4GBKR) and it didn't work. Both the microsdhc and the Kingston kit are rated class 4. I am using build 2.2007.51-3, which as of this time, I think, is the latest OS2008. When I take the card out of the adapter and use it on other devices, including XP via a usb adapter, it works fine. When I use the N810 via a USB cable to my PC, windows can't see it. Also, I've used my 8GB with other mini adapters on other devices and there are no problems. After doing some searching, Nokia seeems to have problems with Sandisk 8GB microsdhc in other products too, including cell phones. I think this is a Nokia kernel problem, but I have no idea why the previous post with the same sandisk card and Kinston adapter works. fredz, could you tell me what OS version you are using? BTW I also tried formatting the card with Windows XP as well, and it made no difference.

Also, to muddy the water even further, there were several similar OS800 bugs, albeit with N800:

#2073
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2073

#1204
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204

mobiledivide 2008-03-12 20:08

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
I had a strange experience when I had a corrupt Kingston 4gb micro SDHC card which worked fine for about 3 weeks. I had never taken it out of the N810 only using the USB connector. Then a few days ago I was trying to install KDE so I used a Sandisk Micro- SD adapter. XP would not reconnect the card and then attempting to put it back into the N810 resulted in "Corrupt Card" message. I tried a few different things but neither tablet, XP or Ubuntu was able to see the card. Eventually out of all options I started looking at return options since the card has a lifetime warranty and on a whim while emailing support at Kingston, I put the card into my N75 which isn't even compatible with SDHC. That device at least recognized a card but delivered the corrupt card message too and would not format. I then placed the card back in the N810 and voila it read the card and then plugged in via USB the XP machine read the card.

Anyway I have no idea what the issue was but regardless thats pretty unreliable I will be careful to do backups more often.

whydidnt 2008-03-13 03:12

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
I think it's the adapter. I have a 6 GB Micro SD card that did not work with the first adapter I tried, even though it worked in everything else. I bought a second adapter (also Sandisk) and it works happily. Try a different adapter and see if that resolves the issue. Let me join in with the complaint about going to miniSD, instead of standard SD. I would gladly have accepted a device that was a few centimeters bigger for the convenience of a full SD slot.

radiorebeldecuba 2008-03-17 06:21

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Hi There, I'm new in this forum. I wanted to ask you guys if this A-DATA 16GB SDHC .class 6 would work with my N810.
Any ideas.
Thank you for your patience .
Peace.
RRC

buurmas 2009-03-16 17:54

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
For the record, I got this to work on my n810:

Sandisk MicroSD to MiniSD Adapter
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TLXCDW
SanDisk 8GB microSDHC Card CLASS 2 (SDSDQ-8192, Bulk Package)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012Y2LLE

Full story (note: I am a n810 newb): when I first entered this into my miniSD slot, I got the "Memory card corrupt or unformatted error". After some fruitless experimentation with my PC, I tried again. This time I pushed it in harder & it clicked into place. Obviously, the first time I didn't push it in far enough. Live & learn!

fifth 2009-03-16 20:06

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Just got my n810 last week and been looking to get a micro card. Having read through this thread decided to avoid SanDisk (more so the adapters) so have gone for Kingston;

8Gb Card for Storage
And 4Gb just for the Adapter

Fingers crossed they work!

fifth 2009-03-20 19:07

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
If it helps anyone else the Kingston 8Gb Micro + Kingston Mini adapter work right out of the box on first attempt.

Capt'n Corrupt 2009-03-31 23:36

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Hi All!

Just to chime in, in case somebody could use the information about a card that works:

I purchased a Patriot 8GB MicroSD SDHC (class 4) today, which came with both an SD and MiniSD adapter, for $24.99 from Canada Computers. Within moments of getting it home, I was filling it with data from my Ubuntu box, and it worked flawlessly in my N810. 8GB is very capacious!

If you're looking for an affordable card that works (at least in one case), consider the Patriot 8GB Micro SD!

I only post this here because I consulted the forum before purchasing a card (I was *just* about to by sandisk too!) and took a chance on the Patriot. I figure this information could help somebody looking for a card that works.


YARR!
}:^)~

Corrupt SDHC

spock 2009-04-26 02:17

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 276250)
Hi All!

Just to chime in, in case somebody could use the information about a card that works:

I purchased a Patriot 8GB MicroSD SDHC (class 4) today, which came with both an SD and MiniSD adapter, for $24.99 from Canada Computers. Within moments of getting it home, I was filling it with data from my Ubuntu box, and it worked flawlessly in my N810. 8GB is very capacious!

If you're looking for an affordable card that works (at least in one case), consider the Patriot 8GB Micro SD!

I only post this here because I consulted the forum before purchasing a card (I was *just* about to by sandisk too!) and took a chance on the Patriot. I figure this information could help somebody looking for a card that works.


YARR!
}:^)~

Corrupt SDHC

Thing is, I also just bought one of those and it doesn't work in my n810. I also get the "attempt to access beyond end of device" errors in dmesg, despite the fact that the card works in my PC, and I'm reusing an old known good micro->miniSD adapter. So it's a gamble I think.

spock 2009-04-26 17:17

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spock (Post 282049)
Thing is, I also just bought one of those and it doesn't work in my n810. I also get the "attempt to access beyond end of device" errors in dmesg, despite the fact that the card works in my PC, and I'm reusing an old known good micro->miniSD adapter. So it's a gamble I think.

UPDATE: It looks like Patriot just screwed up the partition table. I used dd to zero the first 1MB of the card, wrote a new partition table with sfdisk (type 'b' for FAT32), and formatted it with the Maemo File Manager (for some reason mkfs.vfat didn't work). Now the card works fine.

elschemm 2009-06-01 13:50

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
When I bought my N810 back in Feb of 08, I also bought a 6G Sandisk micro SDHC (class 4) from Amazon. Upon discovering that the N810 doesn't actually take micro cards, I bought one of those Sandisk adapter sets (micro - full, and micro-mini, and comes with a 1G card) from Radio Shack (I was deparate... what can I say).
I have had almost no trouble from it over the last year and a bit.
I say almost, because every now and then, I have to re-insert a couple of times to get it to recognize. I wonder if the previous comment (about inserting too hard is the culprit). I find that using the stylus to press on the mini-adapter is the best way to get it clicked-in correctly (I have fat fingers, so I generally can't get it to click by myself).

Oddly, as I was reading this thread, I thought I would see if there were any identifying marks on the adapter that might narrow down the problem. The only thing I found on my adapter was a date-stamp on the back (says 2007-03-08A). But, when I put the adapter back in, I got my first ever 'Corrupted' error.
So, a reinsert. Still the same error. OK, a reboot. Problem fixed. Memory card is used and working again.

Also, I have noticed a few times in the last year that an improperly inserted card may also cause the internal card not be recognized. As soon as the external card is reseated 'correctly', they both magically appear.

My guess? Something about the N810s funky slot does not play well with Sandisks adapter. Having said that, they can be made to work, as I have done so successfully for over a year.

elschemm 2009-06-01 20:36

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Guess I spoke too soon. I took the card out to about three hours after the last post. I needed to do some re-partitioning and external backups.

I needed to insert and remove about 3 times to complete all the stuff I needed to do. When I tried to insert the last time, it didn't want to play nice. It took about 4 reboots (including a remove-the-battery one) and about 30 re-inserts of the card to get it to come up correctly.

During the process, of trying to get it to work, I re-inserted it into my Linux PC to verify that I hadn't accidentally toasted it at some point. It always worked correctly on the PC.

So, I feel comfortable saying that it is some kind of physical mis-match between the Nokia interface and the SanDisk adapter or between the SanDIsk adapter and the micro-card.

Microcard + FS adapter into PC worked flawlessly the whole time.

Once I got it installed and recognized, it seems to be working correctly. So, it isn't an (electrical?) corruption. It's an interface issue.

It worries me that I had 0 problems with this prior to today. One quickly fixed problem earlier today, and now much more effort to get it to work. Guess I am in the market for a new mini-micro adapter.

Pity nobody actually makes 16GB MINI SD cards (especially class 6!!)

pepper 2009-06-20 19:16

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
I got the same problem from the mini adapter.But if you insert the adapter first then insert the micro sdhc don't force it all the way in,it worked for me.might have to try a few times.

knetch 2009-06-21 22:35

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spock (Post 282145)
UPDATE: It looks like Patriot just screwed up the partition table. I used dd to zero the first 1MB of the card, wrote a new partition table with sfdisk (type 'b' for FAT32), and formatted it with the Maemo File Manager (for some reason mkfs.vfat didn't work). Now the card works fine.

I am having a really super-annoying problem with my Patriot 8gb card, but I'm not sure if it's related. Any time I try to download a large file to my card (like a debian image), it gets to about 25-30 MB in and then the N810 restarts. The thing is, I can download the file fine if I use a micro USB connector on my computer.

I have tried:
  • Panasonic formatter
  • gparted on N810 to ext2
  • turning virtual memory off
  • using different browsers

Could it be a bum card, a bum tablet, a bum user????

Thanks!

knetch 2009-06-27 20:37

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
I took a chance and ordered a Sandisk micro-mini converter and it fixed these problems! It took a few tries for the N810 to recognize it (unlike the Patriot converter). I wonder if the Sandisk works because it's less forgiving. I'm glad I found this thread.

newyeargirl 2009-06-28 02:54

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Chiming in, too. I've had an N800 and an N810 since Feb. and last month bought 2 SanDisk 16 Micro SDHC (one for each device). Got them for around $45 each from Digizone Technology. Nice part was that each came with 2 adapters. Both cards are working flawlessly.
Digizone Tech. ref. SDSDQ-016G-3A Bulk Package (free SD slot and mini SD slot adapter)

newyeargirl 2009-06-28 03:12

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
I’ve had a few months now to play with my N800 + N810, but now I’m perplexed. Both are OS2008, Diablo 5.2008.43-7, and are running Flash Player 9.0.48.0. The N800 streams some video OK, but not some Internet radio stations. Then, oddly, it plays video files stored on the Internet and those stored on the device.

My N810 won’t stream video or Internet radio stations. But it plays video files stored on the Internet and those stored on the device.

Anyone know why these devices, seemingly configured the same way, aren’t handling audio and video the same way?

wesgreen 2009-06-28 13:53

Re: Sandisk MicroSDs don't seem to work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by newyeargirl (Post 300500)
I’ve had a few months now to play with my N800 + N810, but now I’m perplexed. Both are OS2008, Diablo 5.2008.43-7, and are running Flash Player 9.0.48.0. The N800 streams some video OK, but not some Internet radio stations. Then, oddly, it plays video files stored on the Internet and those stored on the device.

My N810 won’t stream video or Internet radio stations. But it plays video files stored on the Internet and those stored on the device.

Anyone know why these devices, seemingly configured the same way, aren’t handling audio and video the same way?

interesting problem; you might want to start a new thread for this.


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