[Canola] Canola and OGG support
 

Canola works fine with the regular MP3 files that I have, but just doesn't see the OGG files within the same watched folders.

I installed the Ogg support package from Maemo...
(http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/ogg/) and while that helps in Kagu playing my OGG files, Canola doesnt seem to recognise or play the OGG files at all.

Is this missing in Canola and will be added in future or is there a current solution to this ?

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Here's how I was able to get it to work:

1) Add add this catalog - http://tuomas.kulve.fi/debian
Dist: bora
Components: maemo

I personally deleted my existing Tuomas catalog that was Chinook instead of Bora, not sure if it's absolutely needed though.

2) install libvorbis0a

3) install this deb http://kenneth.christiansen.googlepa..._0.3_armel.deb

4) I can't remember if I rebooted or not, but probably did.

5) Enjoy your oggs :D
this should give you OGG support

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

I got it working with nearly the same steps but with tuomas' chinook repository and a reboot was not required. Nice :D

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Interesting... libvorbis0a was missing from my Chinook Tuomas repo. Ah well, at least we both got it working. I'll try again with the Chinook repo instead of the Bora, maybe the repo was updated?

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

I entered the toumas repo,

but I cant find the libvorvis library either (tried both the bora and chinook repos)

Nor can I parse the link in point #2 to a proper link.

Nikem, how did you get the library or the .db file mentioned ?

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

The correct link to the file is: ogg-support-lms_0.3_armel.deb
One step I did even before installing canola2 was to install "ogg-support" (v0.4) from the chinook-repository of tuomas.kulve.fi to get the ogg-support for the default mediaplayer.

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Oh thanks Nikem. I when I copied the url from the op, I must have just copied the text :o So sorry for the confusion guys!

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

I have to drop the app manager into red pill mode to get libvorbis0a installed, I could then install ogg-support-lms from cmd line.

The default media player now sits on a endless "Refreshing Library" loop, and canola now finds and opens the .ogg tracks but doesn't play them, and ideas?

(Am using ITOS 2008 on an n800)

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Thanks Nikem for the link.

I didnt install the libvorbis liobrary (could find it in the Toumas repository). But I had the older OGG support package installed.
I only installed the ogg-spupport-lms.deb file (had to do from command line, using dpkg, it didnt work from the Application manager).

Now Canola does show and play all my ogg files beautilfully.
Thanks for the helping hand everyone.

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

After following the steps above, I had to uninstall and reinstall Canola before it would find my OGGs.

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

FWIW, I finally updated to the new OS2008 on my N810 this morning and as a result, I had to reinstall Canola2 as well as ogg support. This time however, I didn't need to follow all of these extraneous steps - I just installed Canola2, Tuomas ogg support and mPlayer. My oggs worked from the start. **Note: I did use the Temporary Maemo Extras repo found @ gronmayer.com.

So if you're still having ogg support problems, perhaps you should try to uninstall and reinstall :D

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

My ogg-support -package doesn't provide the slow floating point version of the vorbis decoder (libvorbis0a) but the integer only version, i.e. Tremor (libvorbisidec) which is significantly faster on n8x0.

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

I tried the instructtions with Canola 2 beta 2 in my 770 with OS2007HE and I could not get Canola to recognize my Vorbis files. :-(

I tried both with Tuomas' ogg-support for bora and with mogg 0.2, and none of them seem to work (I did install the linked ogg-lms-support package and libvorbis0a).

I wonder if I can try with Tuomas' chinook packages on OS2007HE...

Bye & Good Luck!

Pablo B.

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

I am having some difficulty getting this up:
+os2008 on an n810
+ogg support works for default player
+the given repo is added

-I do not have libvorbis0a package to install
-using the link for ogg-support-lms gives an "incompatible application package" error.

What am I doing wrong?

Any help would be appreciated much -thanks

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Hi Davis,

I'm forwarding this to kenneth to see what happened. I think we updated the LMS and this may have broken the packages.

thanks for the report...

Marcelo

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Hi Davis, yes we were missing the package updates, it's now being generated again. We actually wanted to have in the same batch, but we need others packages from the ogg support to be on extras, and they cannot be there (AFAIK) still.. so we will put on the website a easy .install file for it.

Sorry for the trouble, thanks for the report!

Marcelo

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

can you provide a link for the said file?

Thanks a bunch

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Hi Davis, it only works with the unreleased version, just hang on a little bit more and we will release everything :)

BR

Marcelo

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Hhi handful

Nokia N800
Software os2008 version 2.2007.51-3
Canola2 2.0.0-beta6-maemo2
Ogg Support v0.6

Just to add my voice to inability to add ogg support to Canola. It doesn’t make any difference in what sequence Canola and OggSupport is installed or uninstalled.

Also I tried to install
http://kenneth.christiansen.googlepa..._0.3_armel.deb
but get “incompatible application package” error. Again, any uninstall/reinstall sequence makes no difference.

All of my music files are in ogg format and I really ook forward to the results of your efforts in this.

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Hmm does ogg support still cause problems with voice in/out? I read that was a bug in OS2008 (would sometimes cause mutes in voice in or out in Skype/Gizmo/etc.. voice calls).

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

The last I saw it still caused problems with the inbuilt Google Video Chat. This drove me and my brother nuts for a long time before the reason was forthcoming.

It caused the mutes you refer to you and also break up and distortion. Several times we found ourselves reverting to using the telephone to speak and the tablets to watch.

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Canola is getting better and better fast. Team is working hard so thanks for this lovely application. I'm just wondering how is situation about oggs at the moment? I have updated to beta7 but Canola won't show nothing when browsing folder containing oggs.

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

hi Markku, it just misses on package, that it being worked on. I take the blame because I didn't check if the guys were updating it also, and it needed you guys to complain so I could see the error.

we are running with that, but it needed a little bit more tricks than just compile again.
Next week I promise is there. (today is a holiday here in Brazil )


Marcelo

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Thank you for information. Nice to see that little complaining gets noticed:) Canola is working so nice, keep up good work!

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Thanks for the understanding Markku, actually all complaining are listened :) maybe we will not implement some that are not in our goals, but ogg is quite important, and unfortunately we did a amateur failure : / we will make it up with ogg users again :)

Br

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

my ogg's still worked after an update to beta 7. however canola did not seem to realize when the song ended as even though the there would be 0:00 remaining it would not automatically go to the next song.

long story short and one reflash later im in the same boat and can't find the floating point ogg lib.

is it possible the integer only ogg lib be used for better speed?

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Hi Jchord, we don't do anything related to the ogg besides adding support to the scanner. Of course could be bugs between the messages when they are exchanged between the player and canola, and we can take a better look.

The official package for the beta8 is coming, and for support about the libs you should check out tuomas kulve page, hes the one maintaing this :)

Cheers,

MArcelo

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

I had the same problem and it looks like it is related to mplayer ...
I modified my ~/.atabake/config : add "ogg = oms" at the end of section "[Media]" to force Canola to use the built-in media player and it did the trick ...

But then I had installed ogg support before updating to beta 7 ...

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

How about the mogg 0.4.1 package from Tilman Vogel? Is that support package for ogg-vorbis also valid with Canola beta8?

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

From what I understand, Canola would support any file that is supported by the built-in media player or mplayer ...
So if you add support for ogg file to the built-in media player it's fine (be it with ogg support or mogg)
BUT the only thing is that it may not see those files ... that is where you need to install support for scanning ogg files (it is available from one of the dev personnal site and handful referenced it earlier in the thread ...)

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Yeah Fredool you're right, if your default media is able to play it, using =omg on the configure from atabake will do the trick. the missing thing coming in the next release is the new package for the LSM (scanner) support :)

Br

Marcelo

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

PinCushionQueen, thanks for this ogg/canola help. May I suggest that you Edit your Post #2 (which is where Marcelo's canola beta "manual" sends the ogg-desiring canola user) to include Nikem's Post #6 link so that people won't have to go searching for it unnecessarily?

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

humm libvorbis0a is still missing from Tuomas' bora and chinook rep. Not shure how to get ogg working.

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Jchord : get the LSM files , link on canola website :
http://www.openbossa.indt.org/canola/using.html#formats

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

using "dpkg -z /media/mmc2/lightmediascanner0-ogg_0.1.9-maemo1_armel.deb" as stated on the site gives me "dpkg: unknown option -z" my guess is the z is a typo. however l am not shure what option i should use.

Edit: "dpkg -i /media/mmc2/lightmediascanner0-ogg_0.1.9-maemo1_armel.deb" leaves me with dependency problems as it looks for libvorbis0a

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Jchord : sorry for the Z, it's really i, but what ogg package did you install?

I will forward to Etrunko he's the one responsible for it now..
.
Cheers
Marcelo

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

I tried with both mogg and ogg-support

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I am also unable to install it. Under details it says the package is uninstallable.

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

Hi all,

I've got the problem here. The lightmediascanner0-ogg package is depending on libvorbis0a which is not installed by ogg-support package. I'm now building the packages again with this issue fixed. I'll post here again as soon as they're uploaded to the server.

Sorry for the annoyance.

Re: Canola and OGG support
 

I've just found the problem is not as simple as it seems. The lightmediascanner0-ogg package actually depends on libvorbis0a. If the former is installed without the latter, it won't work at all. So, until we don't come with an appropriate solution for this issue, would you please perform the following installation steps:

1) Install ogg-support from application manager (instructions in http://ogg.garage.maemo.org)

2) Install libvorbis0a package manually either using application manager in red pill mode or typing the following command in xterm *AS ROOT*

# apt-get install libvorbis0a

3) Finally, download and install the lightmediascanner0-ogg package using either application manager in red pill mode or typing the following command in xterm *AS ROOT*

# dpkg -i path/to/lightmediascanner/package

I'll work on the proper solution together with Tuomas Kulve where we'll provide a dummy package called "canola-ogg-support" or something, which will install the correct dependencies so that canola can play and scan ogg files.

Sorry for the annoyance once again.