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zeusenergy 2007-12-28 07:49

OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
Hi, I'm a new user and I tried to download Python but it comes up failed to download. Or maybe I'm the guy who's fed up the servers aren't responding. It could be that there is a size-mismatch and it can't install.
I think these examples describe about 50% of the posts over the past two days. I just read about ten of them. If these problems are similar to what you get and you are reading this, then do yourself a favor and read the other threads for answers. You WILL find them. I promise. I'll also promise to lower taxes, walk your dog, and make you biscuits while fathering your web skills and unending trails of questions that have been plainly answered in the thread below or above this one. The General is more blunt when it comes to newbie issues, I tend to be a bit more subtle.:p Kudos to him and an apology is in order as well.:)
I don't consider research to be more difficult than just reading what's in front of you. Unfortunately this is what some people are incapable of, or they are just used to posting in chat forums or MySpace accounts. Usually I'm grateful to answer Q's, but this one has been beaten to death many times over. I give no links to your answer because it's up to you to take control and stop expecting personal help with this question as you can already see in troubleshooting and n800 forums plenty of these identical posts which only take five minutes to read.

2e1ebr 2007-12-28 08:12

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
I'm just off to start the "Smeg nothing will install" Topic :)

Good point though and well made.

zeusenergy 2007-12-28 08:14

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
Why are you still reading this post? I'm not changing your Technology diaper. You're a big boy now... Time to get potty-trained. Now put on your glasses and your shoes so you have them, and read all about the misfortunes of other disgruntled N800 newbies. Here's my hand, and my wallet of knowledge. Go on, now.
Don't forget to vote in the poll above. What's that? You don't see a pole? It must be in your ears cause I already told you and you didn't listen. If'n I ain't the granddaddy of all liars!:D
ROFLMAO!!!

xPAKxMaster 2007-12-28 08:21

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
botom line: maemo website/repositories sucks!!!

if you want easy help you wont get it ;P unless someone hosts a copy of Python runtime 2.5.(please do)

The repositories are "working" right now every app should download unless stated!

The only problem with MOST apps that dont install is because python runtime dependencies and most of its components are extremely corrupted, the deb files were impropely packaged and the app manager rejects them and the python runtime itself is COMPLETELY MISSING from the repositories it recognises the files must be there but they arent, if you search the repo manually by using just the web browser, you'll get to that conclusion.

Now my only question is: The most IMPORTANT package/deb/program that makes most of all the other apps work is missing or currupted!???

the repositories are not being "hammered":rolleyes:, they are just not being managed and instead of just getting on the server and replacing the files - they havent done anything about it for the past 2 weeks.

I'am tired of this, so can someone host and post a link to a working python 2.5 deb file, its the holidays thousands of ppl got an it for xmas and want to expand th it's capabilities.

If maemo doesnt take responsibility of this matter that we must! if they can't handle hosting repos let someone do it for them!

This might be quite radical but it is time for a change, and we are all tired of all the threads that lead to the same conclusion

Zuber 2007-12-28 08:25

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
You're absolutley right.

I'm a newby and had the same problem and looked on the forums and found the answer (pat myself on the back).

In fact I think I'm going to start another thread now about how many people are starting a new thread on this topic as well :)

On a serious note though. Is it not possible to put it in as a sticky on a couple of the forums. And preferably on the main page (above latest posts). I think a lot of people go straight from the main page to the different threads, so may not see the stickies

Zuber

zeusenergy 2007-12-28 14:01

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuber (Post 116575)
You're absolutley right.

I'm a newby and had the same problem and looked on the forums and found the answer (pat myself on the back).

In fact I think I'm going to start another thread now about how many people are starting a new thread on this topic as well :)

On a serious note though. Is it not possible to put it in as a sticky on a couple of the forums. And preferably on the main page (above latest posts). I think a lot of people go straight from the main page to the different threads, so may not see the stickies

Zuber

something like this was stickied a while back. If an admin wants to stickie this one too, then so be it! It's definately a problem when most users don't have the skill to know the difference between a repository and the lavatory, and all of the good software is in messed-up or misnamed repository servers. My humor is all in good fun but this is a series topic. At least I'm all set now and all the software I want is installed. Good luck to the rest of you!

zeusenergy 2007-12-28 14:10

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xPAKxMaster (Post 116573)
botom line: maemo website/repositories sucks!!!

if you want easy help you wont get it ;P unless someone hosts a copy of Python runtime 2.5.(please do)

The repositories are "working" right now every app should download unless stated!

The only problem with MOST apps that dont install is because python runtime dependencies and most of its components are extremely corrupted, the deb files were impropely packaged and the app manager rejects them and the python runtime itself is COMPLETELY MISSING from the repositories it recognises the files must be there but they arent, if you search the repo manually by using just the web browser, you'll get to that conclusion.

Now my only question is: The most IMPORTANT package/deb/program that makes most of all the other apps work is missing or currupted!???

the repositories are not being "hammered":rolleyes:, they are just not being managed and instead of just getting on the server and replacing the files - they havent done anything about it for the past 2 weeks.

I'am tired of this, so can someone host and post a link to a working python 2.5 deb file, its the holidays thousands of ppl got an it for xmas and want to expand th it's capabilities.

If maemo doesnt take responsibility of this matter that we must! if they can't handle hosting repos let someone do it for them!

This might be quite radical but it is time for a change, and we are all tired of all the threads that lead to the same conclusion

Hey, go into application manager and blow away all the current libraries. Then go to gronmayer.com/it and ONLY add the one you need, which will be the temporary fix for Maemo Extras. Restart your device after a refresh of your application list to be sure and try it again. It worked for me and six other people in these forums that I know about. If you pay me $50 an hour, I'll hold your hand through it over the phone as your own personal tech support. Maybe get me a curvy massage therapist that will give happy endings, that would be nice too. What's that have to do with this thread? I don't know. And I don't know how you can bypass all the solution threads that this post talks about either, and say the same thing over again. But at least you tricked me into giving you the solution. Ding! You win.:rolleyes:

Zuber 2007-12-28 14:16

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
Any one willing to pay for tech support, I'll do it for $40 an hour. Per minute billing. Just call 09xxxxxx. if anyone offers it for less, let me know I'll undercut them :)

Zuber

zeusenergy 2007-12-28 15:59

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuber (Post 116676)
Any one willing to pay for tech support, I'll do it for $40 an hour. Per minute billing. Just call 09xxxxxx. if anyone offers it for less, let me know I'll undercut them :)

Zuber

HEY! This is MY racket *I MEAN* service. How dare you try to consume my potential customers???? You little..... Don't make me CTRL/ALT/DELETE you!!!!:D:D:D

GeneralAntilles 2007-12-28 18:21

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
/me slits his wrists.

:rolleyes:

gemniii42 2007-12-28 18:36

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zeusenergy (Post 116565)
Hi,<snip>

And should we start a thread about:
Omigod! how many threads are there about how many threads are there about .....

zeusenergy 2007-12-28 19:03

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gemniii42 (Post 116847)
And should we start a thread about:
Omigod! how many threads are there about how many threads are there about .....

I'll leave that one up to you.:rolleyes:

xPAKxMaster 2007-12-29 04:29

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zeusenergy (Post 116673)
Hey, go into application manager and blow away all the current libraries. Then go to gronmayer.com/it and ONLY add the one you need, which will be the temporary fix for Maemo Extras. Restart your device after a refresh of your application list to be sure and try it again. It worked for me and six other people in these forums that I know about. If you pay me $50 an hour, I'll hold your hand through it over the phone as your own personal tech support. Maybe get me a curvy massage therapist that will give happy endings, that would be nice too. What's that have to do with this thread? I don't know. And I don't know how you can bypass all the solution threads that this post talks about either, and say the same thing over again. But at least you tricked me into giving you the solution. Ding! You win.:rolleyes:

Muhahaha my lazyness has payed off!!!:D

but now seriously we should stop having to look for solutions! such things are supposed to JUST work, u and i know that and it just makes me angry.

ps: this thread is thruly pointless:p

xPAKxMaster 2007-12-29 04:47

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xPAKxMaster (Post 117123)
Muhahaha my lazyness has payed off!!!:D

Ha! i tried ur method and i have done that before and i restate what i said before
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PYTHON PACKAGES ARE MISSING OR CURRUPTED ON ALL THE MAEMO REPO!!! if you have python installed that all the apps download and install IF you dont have python installed than YOU ARE SCREWED! geez no one listens....
:mad:

xPAKxMaster 2007-12-29 07:40

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
yes yes YES!!!!!!! IHAVE FOUND THE SOLUTION!!!!
ps: if it was on a diff post don't tell me! let me enjoy my glory:p

easy to get python, uknmp, kagu to install in a breeze
1st-do what the uy above said and clear ur device of all the repo ALL OFF Them!

2nd- create a new repo in the app manager
-name it whateva u want
-type this url http://stage.maemo.org/extras
-here's the catch that made it impossible for apps to install, make sure th distribution box is EMPTY that's what made the app manager crash!
-components: free non-free
- that's it!

3rd- i recomend you install python runtime first as in case it fails again you allready will have what you need!

4th- Download and install all u want, it all works for me !!

i spend the last 3 hours experimenting untill it finally worked! i am going to make a thread of this announcement :D so all the new users have some guidance

zeusenergy 2007-12-30 02:32

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xPAKxMaster (Post 117175)
i spend the last 3 hours experimenting untill it finally worked! i am going to make a thread of this announcement :D so all the new users have some guidance

Yay! Another thread about the same topic! Whoo hoo, now I can party.:cool:

memson 2007-12-30 03:00

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
If I assume you mean IT2008, then this is overkill. All you need to do is change the links to any repositories that read "http://repository.maemo.org" to "http://repostory.maemo.org". It's not rocket science. This worked for me at the beginning of the week - when who ever it was posted the solution. Took me 3 or 4 mins to make the changes and then refresh repo list. After that, Python just installed.

One thing you have incorrectly stated - from what I can tell, the python runtime installer actually pulls down a bunch of dependancies at the time of install - it was one or more of the dependancies that was causing the problem (which could be verified by manually grabbing the debs via the command line. The python runtime seems to pull down about 6 or 7 files (MIGHT BE MORE - THIS IS A ROUGH ESTIMATE FROM MEMORY.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by xPAKxMaster (Post 117175)
yes yes YES!!!!!!! IHAVE FOUND THE SOLUTION!!!!
ps: if it was on a diff post don't tell me! let me enjoy my glory:p

easy to get python, uknmp, kagu to install in a breeze
1st-do what the uy above said and clear ur device of all the repo ALL OFF Them!

2nd- create a new repo in the app manager
-name it whateva u want
-type this url http://stage.maemo.org/extras
-here's the catch that made it impossible for apps to install, make sure th distribution box is EMPTY that's what made the app manager crash!
-components: free non-free
- that's it!

3rd- i recomend you install python runtime first as in case it fails again you allready will have what you need!

4th- Download and install all u want, it all works for me !!

i spend the last 3 hours experimenting untill it finally worked! i am going to make a thread of this announcement :D so all the new users have some guidance


zeusenergy 2007-12-30 03:06

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by memson (Post 117573)
If I assume you mean IT2008, then this is overkill. All you need to do is change the links to any repositories that read "http://repository.maemo.org" to "http://repostory.maemo.org". It's not rocket science.

Yes, I tried that solution also, but was unable to continue until I wiped out the rest of the repos in my app manager. So xPAKx would have been right in my case, and it wouldn't be overkill after all.
Most of the people who buy the N800 consider it to be rocket science, BTW. Just because you or I or xPAKx can figure things out and research the subject, and solve the issue, doesn't mean everyone can.
There are still a couple nagging issues that I can't solve either, so I guess some of it is rocket science to me as well! :D

Aciv 2007-12-30 03:27

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
"YES!!!!!!! IHAVE FOUND THE SOLUTION!!!!"
Thanks. That removed the only obstacle I had to installing PyGTKEditor. And I already had Python run time installed, along with every other app I wanted, including Canola2 and lots of others.... go figure.

linux_author 2007-12-30 15:07

Re: OMG how many can't install threads are there now?
 
- i'd rather see a poll asking:

"The problem with maemo.org is:"

1. Someone at Nokia is incompetent.

2. Someone at Nokia ticked off a developer with access to maemo.org.

3. There is malicious activity going on at maemo.org.

4. The repositories are being emptied deliberately.

(i'd be inclined to vote for 1, 3, or 4; at any rate it is very interesting that the very day a workaround for the broken repository is posted, the stage.repository dir was emptied of all .deb files)

Why Nokia is doing this is beyond comprehension.


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