Re: OS2008 Instant Messaging Upgrades
 

Having just updated I've been wondering the same.

I imagine it's because it's still got too many significant bugs, e.g. status.
I was expecting these would have been resolved, ready for diablo.

Oh well, at least this still works with Diablo.

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how did you get this to work?
i followed the instructions closely and got a missing packages error.

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You have to be in "red pill" mode.

They were too busy polishing the Modest e-mail client into a perfect gem. :rolleyes:

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humm. i was in red pill mode. i'll try again.

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Change the collabora, and rtcomm repos in application manager. Change them from the blank distrobution to say "chinook" (without quotes)

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ok, these two repos already said chinook under distribution. maybe there's some other repo that's not working . there's a long list of packages it can't install . including

libpurple0
telepathy-salut
osso-imlogviewer
etc
etc

Re: OS2008 Instant Messaging Upgrades
 

maemo extras maybe?

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Check the repository list in your tablet's Application Manager. Following the RTCOMM Beta installation instructions will result in the creation of a new "maemo Extras" repository entry, and that entry will have a blank "Distribution" line.

When the "Distribution" line is left blank for a repository, the Application Manager will substitute in the version of the OS your tablet runs, in this case "Diablo". As RTCOMM Beta needs bits from maemo Extras "Chinook", this isn't very helpful.

As you go through the RTCOMM Beta installation instructions, watch what each step does. One of the .INSTALL files creates the unhelpful maemo Extras repository entry. After it does so, take a short break from following the instructions, and fix up Application Manager's repository list before proceeding. Either make sure you have only one "maemo Extras" entry that has "Chinook Diablo" on the Distribution line, or have two separate entries, "maemo Extras (Chinook)" and "maemo Extras (Diablo)", with corresponding "Chinook" and "Diablo" Distribution lines.

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Just "Maemo Chinook", minus the Extras, was the missing link for me.
i.e. URL without /extras prefix:

URL: http://repository.maemo.org/
Distribution:chinook
Components: free non-free

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Just a heads up: If ICQ (e.g. via Pidgin/GAIM) doesn't work then that is because AOL dropped support for older ICQ versions. Many clients using the ICQ protocol suffered from this problem. Some can easily fix it in config others need a patch in software. For Pidgin, you need new software, IIRC 2.4.3 solved it. But, if it isn't packaged yet you're out of luck.

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I seem to have lost the ability to log into ICQ on RTCOMM just this week... Is that because of this situation?

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I just noticed this too.

Seems to get stuck at the connection stage without actually generating any errors. i.e. Disabling all protocols except ICQ causes the tray icon to blink Off / On continuously - Doesn't seem to timeout.

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Yes, exactly. That's what's happening all of a sudden. AIM still works, it is just ICQ. My old Gaim client still can log in on my desktop, but not my tablet.

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thanks for the help. this forum rules the world. i thought i had added 'chinook' to the distribution under maemo extras, but it had somehow switched back to nothing again...probably when the rtcom installer insisted on re-installing the extras repo. i also added the 'maemo chinook' repo, which i was missing. one or both of these things fixed the problem.
out of the box, this tablet is great, and with a little tinkering it can do so much that a regular computer does.

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Most likely.

Maybe its fixed in rtcomm SVN? If this exists? Maybe their development page says more. You won't be the only one who noticed this thats for sure.

If you're not scared for command line you can consider on your server running SSH + Bitlbee (recently updated since suffered from same problem as Pidgin) + Irssi + Screen, then from NIT SSH to the server. I like these solutions because they make the NIT more a thin client. Especially for networked applications they work; you need a network anyway to use the application.

An application like Kopete can be fixed by simply changing the configuration to update to ICQ protocol v6. Nifty IMO.

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Maybe we just need the new libpurple. Anyone compile it?

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Ok, I tried shoehorning the latest libpurple0 from Debian sid onto my tablet, and that fixed ICQ but broke MSN. So I put back the maemo version and just replaced liboscar, and that fixed ICQ. (I also did a lot of trial & error)

Download the attached file. As root, unzip it:
then copy it to the right place:
enjoy ICQ again! :D

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Thanks qole!!! :)

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That looks great, but can you write a simple step by step guide how to do that, so a lay user like me can enjoy that too?

Thankyou

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It already is a SIMPLE step by step guide...
download => root => unzip (gunzip liboscar.so.0.0.0.gz) => copy (cp liboscar.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/purple-2/) => enjoy

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A bug is filed.

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3385

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Which part are you having difficulties with?

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I've downloaded the file......
where to put it now? at the document folder??
and..sorry... where to type the gunzip? i've tried at the x-terminal, but it sayw not such file,
and where to type the rest commands?

thanks, that what i ment when i've sais step by step
please share with me

Re: OS2008 Instant Messaging Upgrades
 

If you downloaded the file and didn't choose a specific folder, you probably downloaded it to /home/user/MyDocs/

This page explains how to get root. You will need it to copy the file.

So:

1. Download the file. You need to know where you downloaded it!
2. Open a terminal.
3. Get root.
4. Go to the directory where you saved the file. Assuming you just saved it to the default folder, you type:
   
   Code:

   ---

   cd /home/user/MyDocs/.documents

   ---

   (thanks Brontide!)
   
5. Unzip the file. Type:
   
   Code:

   ---

   gunzip liboscar.so.0.0.0.gz

   ---

   You can cheat and hit the Tab key after typing "libo" and it will fill in the rest. If it doesn't you're probably not in the right directory.
   
6. Copy the file to the correct directory. Type:
   
   Code:

   ---

   cp liboscar.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/purple-2/

   ---

   Again, if you hit Tab after typing a few letters and it completes the file name, you're doing it right.

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Thankyou,
I did got the gainroot (sudo gainroot)
and i've saved the file at the default documents foldet,
but, although i cd to this directory,
is says.there is not such file when i try gunzip it...
how to solv that?

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try

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It brings me to the same documents folder (were i've seved the liboscar file(
but it still says, there is not such file...

This is what is written there;


BusyBox v1.6.1 (2007-09-27 18:08:59 EEST) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

~ $ sudo gainroot
Root shell enabled


BusyBox v1.6.1 (2007-09-27 18:08:59 EEST) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

/home/user # cd /home/user/MyDocs/ .documents/
/home/user/MyDocs # gunzip liboscar.so.0.0.0.gz
gunzip: liboscar.so.0.0.0.gz: No such file or directory
/home/user/MyDocs #

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Excuse me, jumped in late on this one, but how far from being finished is this built in messenger from being finished and available for us non admin types?

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Try downloading again, but this time click and hold on the link, then select Save Target As...
From this screen you might want to change the location to somewhere that's easier to find.

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You've put a space between "/home/user/MyDocs/" and ".documents/". There shouldn't be one.

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wiered.... when i check at the file manager ,
it is in the documents folder,
so i don't understand whst gets wrong

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You are right... now it found it, thanks

Thankyou very much all , at last i could make it, and learn some thingd from your knowledge

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6 months on from installing this add on and im still not able 2 see my msn contact list (albeit i have 700+ contacts) but even still, does anyone have any ideas as to how i can be able to see them?

thanks, chin

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the contacts list should have the ability to sort on msn if you have the msn account active...

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i do have the msn account active...it seems as though im just one of the unlucky few who can't seem to get the contact list to show...what would you suggest i do to resolve this issue?

thanks, chin

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did you enter any kind of nickname while setting up the msn account?

i recall there being some kind of issue with msn if a nickname was not set in the account settings.

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i have entered a nickname..perhaps its due to the fact that i have loads of contacts and would take an excessive amount of time to download them?

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dont know, and i dont see why. unless one is talking contacts in the millions, they are basically just email addresses tied into a database at the server end of things...

but then im not familiar with the actual insides of the msn protocol or its implementation in maemo...

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Why don't you make a new account in msn with 2,3, or 5 contacts only and add it to your nokia just to see if the problem is the big amount of contacts?

Just a proposal; I think it shouldn't be too difficult and wont break anything..

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alrite, i will try that tonight and see what happens...

thanks, chin