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I am on AIM as penguinbait I am on irc as penguinbait #maemo on irc.freenode.net I have jabber, yahoo, msn, come find me or tell me how to find you, you can PM me if you like |
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I will prefice what I'm about to say with this: it is only how I see things as a non-Linux usin', non xTerm usin' idiot. But this may represent some of the things that are being taken for granted by those that understand the process better than I do. I was gung ho to come home tonight and give this install a try. But I'm now afraid I would run into the experience you are having. If you read this whole thread very carefully I think you find that: 1. The downloaded files need to go to a specific place. I have no idea how to put them there. 2. The card might need to be formated in 'windows' I'm not sure exactly what that means. For example, I don't know if maybe a stock card comes this way or whether I need to use my XP lap top or my N800 to do this. 3. There might be confussion about whether mmc1 in the n800 means the internal card or the external card although I am assuming it means the internal card. 4. I'm not sure if the download files are zipped or not. I did try to start the install process earlier today but the first nstall file would not install. The detail said it was over 1500 GB in size. I know that doesn't make sense, but that's what it said. 5 You need to be certain that the downloaded files are the correct size. But I don't know how to use xTerm to verify this. But I suppose if I used Buns method of downloading to my XP computer and then transfering could work, but as I said, I wouldn't know where or how to put the files in the right place. 6. Penguinbait mentions that after uninstalling this it leaves some things on the IT which may not be a big deal but I wouldn't know how to change that latter if needed. Anyway, I guess for those that can deal with the above things this is an easy install , but not for me. I'll probably sit this one out for now. But I'll be quite interested to see where it goes. Neil PS- I'm quite impressed and thankful to Penguinbait for offering to help people directly. Who knows, maybe I'll take him up on that sooner or latter. |
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G'day everybody!
Thanks for this great piece of work! KDE is now my standard desktop environment. I searched for a Linux app which will make a right-click possible - something like the Maemo-function... I found this: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2004-June/001233.html (click) And hopefully someone can use it, to built (in the best case) a working deb-file :-D I am a total Linux-Newbie and i have no idea, if this stuff is useful or not - but i hope so... PS: I have also the font-problem... |
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If I ever get an 810, #1 on my list :) if you guys beat me to it, all the better let me know. Check out xmodmap you should be able to map, not sure if anyone compiled it yet? |
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I saw that patch before, and a few others, but none of them will work without modification, since the maemo tslib.c is different :( If anyone's interested, I ended up writing an ugly little perl script since I couldn't find any other way to send a right-click. It interferes with applications that use tap and hold by default, such as microb, though. |
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As I stated in my original post THIS IS A HACK. I am offering you an experience I can't promise perfection, but I will try to help you if you have any probelms as well as others. The worst case scenario is you you have to reflash your tablet, the best case, your printing webpages and emails in about an hour. I want to take this moment to thank you, It has been a pleasure answering your questions, I hope you find my answers helpfull and not to technical. Its hard to understand what other people do not know, I really want to make this an easy process for people to try, but as with any hack there is risk involved. How do you know I am not dropping tons of spyware or something on your tablet.. You don't, but I am a good guy, you can trust me ;) Again answering your questions is helping many others, so thank you. Wow that was tiring :D |
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Cheers:D Neil |
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I never thought I could have such a robust operating system on my N800 until now (it's like a mini laptop now!). Keep up the great work, I have much respect for you... |
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Penguinbate,
I downloaded the mmc2 files to my lap top tonight. When I right click and then click properties I get the following file sizes: local-mmc2.deb size 173 kb ( 177,879 bytes) size on disk 176 kb ( 180,224 bytes) Kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb size 165 kb ( 169,119 bytes) size on disk 168 kb ( 172,032 bytes) Kdesup-3.5.8.deb size 20.2 MB (21,260,684 bytes) size on disk 20.2 MB ( 21,262,336 bytes) KDE 358.tar ( this was the way my windows xp showed it. It obviously stripped the .bz2 ) size 139kb ( 142,826 bytes) size on disk 140 kb ( 143,360 bytes) These are quite different sizes than you have listed earlier. Do you have any idea what's happening ? I'll try the download again to see if I get different numbers. Neil |
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The server is arbitrarily cutting off the transfers. I tried about 8 times tonight and got a different size every time. I'm now trying again with the .bz2 from last night, and fresh copies of the others. All files have the exact size penguinbait indicated, but then they were the correct size last night, when it would never install. I checked the sizes at least 3 times last night, and again repeatedly tonight. All the files I have are the exact size, to the byte, that penguinbait said they should be on the first page of the thread. Tonight, though, the .bz2 file is impossible to download.
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Beautiful! Had in fact to reinstall OS, since I was mistake in order - but it is worth! Thanks penguinbait !!!
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@jonmle, had the same problem last night, every time different size. At the end, I decided to save files using firefox on my notebook, transfered files to sdhc (as someone already mentioned in this topic), and then installed kde.
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Opened ticket with hosting company, which my account is 14days old and has served 100GB already, but not even close to my restriction, so either they fix this or I cancel and move, which is a pain, even after only two weeks. We'll see please be patient :confused: |
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Please everyone go beatup my site, download those files, so it will happen when my hosting company is doing testing :)
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Great penguinbait
please j have problem like 810 j dl your file in mmc1 but after 8-9 min 810 say to me that can't install file.............where is my error??? thank's for your best contribute for your work and your patience and excuseme for my bad english Grazie mille Ciao |
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This is simply AWEsome!:D BRAVO! First of all, it was really quite simple to download and install the files. I did have an incomplete file at first, but the size comparison made it easy to see what was wrong and I downloaded it to my PC then moved it to my N810. Install was a snap after that. Since I've never seen KDE until now it was (and will continue to be) quite a learning experience...I was up quite late last nite:p but this is just the sort of thing I love to do. Puts me in the target demographic I guess! Next I want to thank you for patiently monitoring this thread and helping us out with the kinks. I really do appreciate your personal effort and hope there is some way I can contribute to the cause, so to speak. Do you have a donation mechanism? Or should I just write your name on a $20 and put it in the mail?:eek: Finally I have one question....possible bug? I noticed that my usb host mode script does not seem to be working post-KDE. I have commands to switch modes set up in osso-status-bar and they were working just prior to the KDE install. Now, alas, nothing happens when I plug a usb drive into my N810. When I plug it into a PC, I get the 'Memory card in use...' pop-up error message, though I am able to see the files on the PC. You mentioned editing the sudoers file, I believe. Might there be something here I've done, or more likely, need to re-do, like re-install the scripts? Thanks again for your good work, kind sir! |
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Can anyone verify if they recieved short read on the files from a PC or only from the tablet?
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EDIT: PS I want to report that I too have the font problem in MicroB. |
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!! KDE on n810 is so bad ***!
I tried messin with the microb fonts but couldnt get anywhere ... hope some one has an idea ... was gnome just not working ??? gnome seems less resource hungry to me? thanks again penguinbait!! |
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wow people downloaded 40206447 kilobytes = 39264.1084 megabytes = 38GB of KDE files yesterday alone
And 44GB the day before, I am thinking this is the problem with the short reads on the files |
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With the exception of local-mmc2.deb, they all downloded fine. local-mmc2.deb reports a size of 168119. Second try fixed it. Thanks for all of your work! Etaoin |
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Hello, yesterday i tried to install kde packages, at the first time the package local-mmc2.deb exit with error when i tried to install it, but i have look inside the postinst script and I change this line "echo y|mkfs.ext2 /media/mmc2/local.img" in
"mkfs.ext2 -F /media/mmc2/local.img", in this mode the command do the file system and i can install other packages. Very beautiful kde on n800, Compliments! |
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Ok, if you follow these intall directions precisely it will install:
1) Verify correct file sizes (as you have) 2) Put the .deb files on the mmc/sd that you ARE NOT installing onto(in my case I was installing onto the internal mmc2 on my n800, so I put the .debs in the external mmc1) 3) Put KDE358.tar.tar (KDE358.tar.bz2) on the mmc/sd you ARE installing to (in my case mmc2) 3.5***) If you're .bz2 file downloaded as KDE358.tar.tar you MUST RENAME THE FILE KDE358.tar.bz2 4) Now install the .debs in the correct order as posted by PB, and don't get anxious (they take several minutes to download) I did it in one run, if you follow these instructions(however painfull), you can too. ;) |
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Success!!!! Thanks Penguinbait! I proceeded with using the files I downloaded last night by transfering the .deb files from my lap top to my Nokia n800. As I said in my previous post, I had downloaded the tar file late last night directly to my Nokia. When I transfered the .deb files the names got changed a bit at the end of the name, but that apparently didn't matter. File manager was giving me some weird detail that wasn't accurate during the install, but again that didn't end up mattering. I haven't tried MicroB yet, but I do notice that in KDE there are occasional white g letters that look like the screen shot of the google page I think posted earlier in this thread where the top of the g is missing. But overall it looks fine.
I had no hickups with the install. I simply got the files onto the internal card without a special folder. I'm using a Transcend 8 GB SDHC interal card. I feel like if I can do this install anyone can. You just need to pay attention to the details involved. But wow, I'd say the time spent is totally worth it. Now to learn how to use it. Neil ; ) |
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Oh, and restart the tablet when you're done installing. Mine had all kinds of glitches until I did. BUT once you restart your font in MicroB will be changed (but I kind of like it, it seems to make pages load quicker?). I hope the list of install instuctions help, and thanks again PB for this killer app.
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Is it possible to add apps to KDE (i.e., KTorrent) on the n800? Forgive me if this has already been asked/posted.:rolleyes:
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Congrats, I am glad you decided to take the plunge. |
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From all the overwhelming requests, and costs
Donations can now be made on http://tablethacker.com/kde.html Thanks guys!!!!!! |
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Thanks a lot. :) gp |
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WOW, my first donation, I am giddy :D Thanks Sungrove... |
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Yeah, this is quite a feat for just one person. If I knew how to port KDE I sure would help, but unfortunately I can't :(
Thanks for a cool OS! |
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