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I can try walking you through getting it fixed, then we can uninstall it it you want, but otherwise you need to edit some and delete some files to remove it.

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Thanks to penguibait for his wonderful work!! I really appreciate his live helping! :)

I think it's better do not post the solution to my problem of 'uninstalling', because It's a 'very particular' solution, working directly on the file of my own N800... Reporting here all the steps will only generate confusion.

gp

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Well, I finally got it installed. No idea what the problem was, I ended up using the same files I had downloaded previously, because I couldn't get a good file download. I tried on a Windows PC, a Linux notebook, and the N800, all had the same problems. The first files I downloaded were the proper size, and installed on the fourth try. <shrug> Now that it's working, my initial impression is that it's a dancing bear. The wonder isn't that it dances well, it's that it dances at all. There is a huge amount of time spent watching little icons bounce up and down, as apps s l o w l y load, and then slowly run. I'll play with it awhile and see if I want to keep it. It requires patience, though. Penguinbait, thanks for the work.

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I had the same issues as well. After consulting with PB, i found that even though the '/usr/bin/bzip2' dir didn't exist, I had multiple libbz type files being used by canola and python/ukmp. In their application details, there was mention of bzip.

In the end, what solved my issue was reflashing and installing KDE before installing all my other apps. This ensured that no other apps were installing bzip in the background.

Next hurdle is getting past the strange font in microB. I can hardly read what I'm typing. Hope this helps some people.

Thanks PB for the help.

stjuste

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Incidentally, after reinstalling all my apps and configuring them, my fonts in microB switched to what i switched my kde ones to (nokia sans). weird but it sure makes having kde and os2008 more pleasant.

PB, let me know if you want to look over my n800 to see what's different.

stjuste

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Confirmed!! I changed all my fonts in KDE except monospaced to 8pt Nokia Sans(which looks beautiful btw. Still readable but small enough to give you lots of space) and changed monospace to 8pt font too. Exited KDE, checked the browser, was still broken, rebooted, checked browser, fixed. Dunno why, but it worked.


*edit* I also noticed anything that still uses monospace fonts, such as code blocks, still use the broken font. Hopefully there is a way in the future to seperate the fonts for kde and maemo completely. Still much better though!

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Hi, I successfully installed KDE on N810 mmc2.

I installed through ssh and I had a failure on

echo y | mkfs.ext2 /media/mmc2/local.img

that for an italian ssh installation must be

echo s | mkfs.ext2 /media/mmc2/local.img

I completed the installation process by hand and it worked.

I also have a problem with microb fonts, I set KDE font to Nokia Sans but the font in microb remains allways monotype, no way to change it.

Thanks for your good job!!!

Update:

I managed to fix the font issue by deleting with rm -rf /home/user/.font*

after rebooting the fonts are now ok in microb.

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For peaple who have problem with the first file after 6-7 minutes: you have to set the english lenguage on the n810!!;)

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kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb failed to install and i cant remove it.

what should i do next?

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I have same problem with kde-3.5.8-mmc1.deb file. This file is different size Than indicated in first post.....help me please

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Thanks a lot... It rocks.. :)
Anyone tried to run firefox ?

[http://picasaweb.google.com/llahiru/MyN800WithKDE]

-Lahiru.

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I would love too! Firefox is my favorite browser. I just wish I knew how to install it on KDE. I tried downloading the linux version of Firefox directly to my N800 from Konqueror, but I did not know how to install it.

Can anyone help out with a step by step how to install Firefox on KDE?

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To the best of my knowledge, it would have to be added to the KDE package by Penquinbait BEFORE you even install KDE. The way we are running KDE is not standard meaning we can't just add packages for install like on your regular desktop.

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I really want to port KDE apps, but I need a guide to compiling KDE. Just image how quickly we can get apps once everybody are in the mix! Also, on another note, I'm currently working on how to minimize Maemo's usage of memory to help with KDE. I know we can minimize the memory usage. I'm trying to see if I can boot my ITT and just load one menu with 2 options: KDE and Shut Down By doing so, the CPU will not be under so much stress. KDE is great!!!

NOTE: I used rm -rf /home/user/.font* to try to restore my MicroB fonts, but once again, I got a no go. :( Damn you "Font Screen of Death" :P

Linux Rulez!!!

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Thanks ElPaso, this worked for me!:) Bravo for an easy fix!

I haven't tested other apps, but they weren't affected by this 'bug'. At least, I hope nothing else was relying on that file, since I did just delete it:eek:

EDIT: Well, it did work. Sorta. The next time I ran KDE and quit, the fixed font was back in MicroB. Now, the only thing I've done is to delete that .font file, just the once. I'm going to try again, but something tells me that each time KDE loads, that .font file gets re-written.

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I've just installed KDE vie .deb and it works great! Much faster than I expected. :D

I checked the file sizes before the install but checksums would have been safer - unfortunately I dont see md5sum/cksum/sum in OS2008 and busybox doesn't seem to have applets.

If you want to compare your downloads with mine here are some quick and dirty check sums using perl for the mmc2 install:

cd /media/mmc2
for x in *.deb *.bz2; do cat $x | perl -e 'while(sysread(STDIN,$b,65536)>0){$s=($s<<5)^(($s> >27)&0x1f)^unpack("%32C*",$b); } printf "@ARGV[0]: sum = %08x\n",$s' $x; done

output:

kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb: sum = d4efe249
kdesup-3.5.8.deb: sum = 0f1fd455
local-mmc2.deb: sum = bac96eaf
KDE358.tar.bz2: sum = 4ee7b895

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yes, I am going to have to port md5sum to be used in future installs because this is just madness!

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Tried installing but failed on second file...

I downloaded files to a linux desktop and transferred to my memory card. On my desktop the file sizes were correct, but on my memory card the size of the biggest one lost about 20 megabytes... It did this after I transferred the files a couple times, still "lost" the same amount of data everytime...

Now when I enter my memory card the n800 displays a message that says it's corrupt. I tried reformatting it with file manager but that didn't work.

How do I get my SDHC 4GB memory card back in working order so I can flash my tablet and try the process over again?

PS. The files were all supposed to go on the same memory card, Correct?

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Well its just a matter of space if you have space you can install anythng.

That being said, someone has to compile firefox, I tried lots, I can not compile firefox, thunderbird, mozilla.

Konqueror, links, were the only useable browsers I could ever make work. If someone compiles firefox, it will fire right on in KDE..

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Well Konqueror seems like a great browser works better than MicroB in my opinion, only thing is when i try to install plugins like shockwave etc im not successful, whats the trick to installing plugins in Konqueror?

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Plugins should (unless I am speaking out of my arse) be compiled specifically for each platform and thus, the x86 Linux versions will not work.

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OK, so I am a bit confused here.

FWIW I'm using an N810.

I repartioned the internal 2GB card as described at maemo.org. I also installed the boot menu and cloned the OS, also from maemo.org.

This left me with a .5GB VFAT system and a 1.5GB linux (OS) partition.

So of course when I tried to install I'm told there's not enough room.

Considering the device is only using .5GB of it's 1.5GB partition I'm wondering why the instructions partition as they do. Seems to me one would want more of the internal card available, but perhaps that's fodder for another post.

Before I attempt any work arounds, is it at all possible to install KDE on the built-in 2GB card of the N810? I believe the answer is no because you state you have to be booting from flash for this to work.

If that's the case, then is the MMC2 install meant only for N800 users who may have a 4GB card as internal?

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Oh and another question....

If I decide to install on my 4GB external card, will it wipe out everything that's on there? I currently have some data on there and don't want to lost it. Of course I can back it up first but I'd like to think I'll be able to use the remaining 2GB for storage.

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Hopefully one last question. On your site you only mention the two KDE files and just untarring them from within the OS.

Yet in this thread you also have people download a local file and another file dependant on mmc.

Why?

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I agree. Other than youtube/stage6, I have yet to run into a website that gives problems, even iTT browse smoothly!


bun

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Oh well, I thought this was the solution to the font issue, but I spoke too soon alas. I have been doing some testing and it appears that this little workaround works only sometimes.

In the interest of providing feedback to those readers who might have an idea about that's going on, here is what happened during my little series of tests this afternoon:

If I reboot immediately after deleting the file, then the fonts are back to normal in MircoB. But, when I close the browser and re-open it, the fonts are broken again.

If I open the browser *before* rebooting, the fonts are broken despite the reboot.

Also, this might be a good place to ask if anyone else is having difficulty with the usb host mode post-KDE. It could be a coincidence, but I was using it just prior to installation and I am no longer able to connect in host mode. I noticed this behavior before I tried the font 'solution', so I am guessing they are unrelated, but it sure seems like it had something to do with the KDE install. Any ideas or similar experiences?

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You are mixing two different installs processes

If you are booting from mmc/SD on 1.5GB partition follow the instructions on bottom of KDE page on tablethacker.com

If you are not booting from mmc,follow the instructions here

TWO DIFFERENT INSTALL PROCESSES :)

I reccomend boot from SD, over DEB install, but thats just my preference.

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@ Griff, I can verify that you can install KDE on the internal 2GB MMC of the N810. I'm personally using the 'Boot from MMC' install of KDE instead of the .deb - since you've already gone to the trouble to partion & format, I would just go the 'Boot' route, too. :)

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Ah ok, this makes sense! May I suggest that you clarify this in the first post here? Maybe just something that says "This install is only for people who do not want to run their OS from MMC, for those running from MMC visit my website..."

Why do you recommend booting from SD? Just curious.

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running the OS off flash is slower than off SD. It is a jffs2 filesystem which is compressed. That compression has overhead. I have not done any tests lately, but it was like 15-20 seconds faster on boot.

I will update the post, thanks

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Hi, I've been trying to install this as well and followed the instructions. I have well over 2GB and have downloaded the files onto my internal card. The first file installs w/o any issues but I get an error msg for the 2nd one saying "unable to update kde-mmc2". I checked the app log and these are the last few lines, please help:
"Preparing to replace kde-mmc2 3.5.8-PB2 (using /media/mmc2/kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement kde-mmc2 ...
dpkg: error processing /media/mmc2/kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb (--install):
trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/bzip2', which is also in package bzip2
rm: cannot remove '/etc/nss_mdns.conf': No such file or directory
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
/media/mmc2/kde-3.5.8-mmc2.deb"

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the only way round it, which worked for me was to reflash os2008 then re-install it.

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How do i stop KDE windows from being bigger than the screen space? Some windows are too long or wide that i cant see the OK APPLY CANCEL button on the bottom of the window. Thats the single most annoying thing so far.

Otherwise KDE on my N800 is quite awesome. It just needs Flash 9 or 10 support in the browser to make it complete.

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Bazanime,

This solution was posted earlier in this thread by Westy. Ideally it would be nice if the windows were the right size, but I think it's likely that this is the best workaround we'll get!

Now if we can just figure out how to re-set the fonts so they'll work again in MicroB, we'll be set. I've spent a lot of time fooling around with KDE in the last day, and even though it is a bit slow and we have some funkiness with the window sizes, it simply blows me a way to have a full OS in my N810!

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thanks djashjones,
I reflash os2008 and is ok now the size, but I have big problem for to install KDE.....

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remove the bzip2 package. You have bzip2 installed, remove bzip2 from aplication manager. My package also contains bzip2 file in same location

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anyone having install issues, I am on yahoo and aim as penguinbait and msn@penguinbait.com on msn

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I have not been able to get that solution to work for some windows :confused: Namely secondary windows in Kmail and KOrganizer - for example, if I adding a New Event to Kalendar and I try to move the window (so I can tap Ok/Apply/Cancel) using the pager system mentioned - only the main application window moves and not the secondary/dialog window. Can one of you guys using the pager in the system tray to move windows confirm this - or am I crazy:p. As a result - I've just continued to use my Keyboard Shortcut fix for this problem. I wouldn't mind having both available though.

Also you can "fix" the font problem in Microb by install some other .ttf fonts - I've chosen Bitstream Vera and it works really well almost just like the original microb fonts. :D

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like what problem? I did not have any.

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How exactly did you install the .ttf fonts? In KDE? Where can I download the .ttf file? Linux Rulez!!!