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elpaso

2008-01-13 17:55

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Thanks, for the font hint, I confirm it works (even if I preferred nokia sans than vera).

To install fonts with KDE you can use the font installer after downloading the .ttf files.

The font installer is in KDE control center and in system administration menu. I did the install in aadmin mode (root pwd required)

Now we have a fix, but we still don't know how to reset the default font in microb to nokia sans.

PinCushionQueen

2008-01-13 18:16

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by skibur (Post 126811)

How exactly did you install the .ttf fonts? In KDE? Where can I download the .ttf file? Linux Rulez!!!

It's been a couple of weeks since I did this... so hopefully I'm remembering what I did correctly :o In any case, I used information that I found here on the forums so you should be able to at least search and find the same information, if needed.

First grab the fonts here I'm using the first ones in the list (258k) - I'm not sure if it matters which one you use or not.

Then copy the font(s) to /usr/share/fonts/

Following the instructions either here or here for changing the default font x-western.

:)

Edit: Elpaso's method sounds much easier - didn't even think of using KDE to install the fonts since the problem was in microb :p

bunanson

2008-01-13 18:52

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

PB: I have KDE installed on MMC2, and it is also the boot SD card. Now I want to make another boot SD to install XFCE, would this mess up anything, in particular the swap.img and local.img on the MMC1? I understand that, in this case, I will have to change the MMC2 everything I want to switch between KDE with XFCE.

And I am going to follow Ty (Aisu)'s instruction. Any do's and dont's?

TIA,

bun

mooler

2008-01-13 19:23

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Then copy the font(s) to /usr/share/fonts/

do you just copy the BZ2 file or do you have to untar then copy

jllchao

2008-01-13 19:26

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

I followed the instructions and got all files for mmc1 installed (n800, os2008 Ver: 2.2007.50-2, 2gb external sd Ultra II) fine. When I was trying to install local-mmc2 on the internal sd (2 GB Patriot), under the Application manager, it shows "Install application? local-mmc2 1.0.0-11551.6gb", then I hit OK, ..., unable to install local-mmc2. Would you please give me some help as how to fix this problem? I checked the file size. It was 498k. I downloaded it again, it became 499k (510548 viewed under the Winxp). Still no go. I even reformated the sd for FAT32, copied those files to mmc2. Still no go. "unable to install local-mmc2" Maybe I should try a different SD card?

Thank you.

I replaced the 2GB Patriot sd card (internal, mmc2) with Kingston 4GB sdhc, but I got the same result.

James Chao

skibur

2008-01-13 20:30

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

I think MicroB font issue after KDE Install should be moved to this thread.
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=14995

Sorry about this mishap. I was the second one to post on this thread and I asked about the font issue. I didn't know that everybody had this problem.

sidofren

2008-01-14 03:27

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Thx for your help PB! am all set. Is the cam any useful w kde?

Westy

2008-01-14 11:26

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Hi Penguinbait

In the build of KDE could you add evolution-exchange so we can gat at MS mail servers as they are pretty uiquitous these days and it is the one key thing for me that all three of the N*** have been missing.

Ta

penguinbait

2008-01-15 02:25

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 126870)

XFCE DOES NOT WORK ON 2008 OS. We'll see what happens, but for now its KDE only on 2008OS

winteum

2008-01-16 00:24

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

4 files in the mmc2 internet memory

1) local-mmc2 has been successfully installed.
2) kde file cannot be installed. It has leaved a corruted installation registry in the application manager.
3) kdesup cannot be installed.

Got local-mmc2 and kdeup removed successfully. But kde can't be uninstalled.

4) I can't access my mmc2 with usb cable. It says internat memory in use cannot connect.

Please help..

penguinbait

2008-01-16 00:51

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by winteum (Post 128426)

OK, how can I reach you via instant messaging or IRC. PM me if you like.

linuxrebel

2008-01-16 05:55

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Penguinbait. Since I'm under the impression you are the friendly sort I've a favor to ask. In this forum could you please avoid yellow text. On the tablet itself and even on my desktop I and others too I believe, use the "classic" skin on this site, which means light yellow on a light blue background. Kinda hard to see.

Apologies if I'm stepping on toes, your contributions are way to valuable to miss any of the information is all. Thanks in advance for your patience with me.

bunanson

2008-01-16 06:17

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by linuxrebel (Post 128527)

I second.

bun

linuxrebel

2008-01-16 11:05

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

I just made an important discovery. If you have bzip2 installed. Remove it before you attempt to install kde from debs or you can (especially if you are as good as me) really bork your install.... really bork it.

bunanson

2008-01-16 13:55

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Please elaborate. Thanks,

bun

migs	2008-01-16 18:37

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by linuxrebel (Post 128527)

I third, Penguinbait is awesome but the yellow text is unreadble on the classic skin we are forced to use to view this fourm on MicroB

penguinbait

2008-01-16 19:07

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Yes, I had no idea, I will stick to blues and reds, I would use no colors at all but people don't seem to read unless you scream it in there face :)

No problem, I will see if I can update any major posts

I changed the initial post in this thread from yellow, to lime.

Is this any better?

let me know

fpp	2008-01-16 20:08

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

It's OK at my end...
...another Classic theme user :-)

litesabre

2008-01-16 20:17

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quick question: I have an N810 and I want to install it on the internal 2GB flash. I already have the 128MB allocated for swap in Maemo, but the entire drive is empty. I deleted everything else in there and have 1.75 GB free according to the control panel. Is this enough?

Do I need to copy the MMC2 batch of files to the drive and then install it from there or can I install it from the removable Mini SD card?

Also, someone has mentioned that Maemo OS2008 still coexist with KDE installed. Is that true? Can I switch back and forth without any problems. I don't want to give up Maemo since it is convenient for web browsing and multimedia. I only want KDE for the office applications.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

penguinbait

2008-01-16 20:50

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by litesabre (Post 128893)

Well if its empty you should be good. The size of that space it 2GB unless you are saying your swap is on that already. If so I would remove the swap before continuing, local-mmcX will create a swap file for you.

Yes the co-exist, if you log out of KDE it will turn black, and maemo will start again shortly.

sidofren

2008-01-17 02:45

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

After installing KDE my card went into lock mode. I tried to transfer files over from my pc but it wasn't able to read anything. Is this normal? I uninstalled and now it's readable again.

manfredi90

2008-01-17 13:15

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Hi,
Kde is fantastic...
But, is there a definitelly solution for the microB font problem?
I've already deleted the font in home/user, but the problem persist:(

Nilles

2008-01-17 21:32

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by naidu9 (Post 125127)

Hello all,

I've been trying since yesterday to get this to work but no luck. I have a n800 with an 8gb external card. After installing local-mmc1.deb successfully in 10 minutes, I cant get past step 2 - kde-3.5.8-mmc1.deb. which is suppose to take 20-30 minutes. When I click to install an update pop-up says "Update application?" Update? Anyway, I click ok and it is unable to update. I look at my installed applications and it shows kde-mmc1 with an exclamtion point icon with 3 black squares next to it. I try to uninstall this so I can go back to step 2 and the pop-up says unable. Details says - Application: kde-mmc1 status:broken category: user/support installed version 3.5.8-PB2 size 1.05mb. Below it on the application list is another entry - kdesup. I click details on it and it says Application: kdesup status:broken category: user/support installed version 3.5.8-PB1 size 31.5mb. I am unable to uninstall these or go on to the next step. How can I rectify this situation? I'm stumped.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks

Im having the same problem. Have you found a solution?

drizek

2008-01-17 21:35

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Do you have bzip2 / libbz2 (or something like that) installed?

penguinbait

2008-01-17 22:49

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nilles (Post 129572)

Im having the same problem. Have you found a solution?

in application manager, open tools > log

paste it here, lets see whats happening?

Some Things to check

Verify file sizes, make sure you got the whole file siteground.com hosting is crap, never use them

Make sure there is at least 40MB free in root,

Make sure bzip2 deb is not installed

NEVER REMOVE THE SD CARD YOU INSTALLED LOCAL TO MMC1 or MMC2. This mounts a filesystem on that card. so dont install local, then remove it and add files to the card. If you need to do that shutdown the tablet, remove the card, put files on , put card back and boot up.

Put the files on the SD card, NOT IN ANY DIRECTORY

Nilles

2008-01-18 08:48

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Can any one put up a torrent for the files?

Im going to try a clean install(reflash) tonight. Ill keep you updated!

Westy

2008-01-18 15:34

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Question for Pin cushionqueen

when I follos your instructions here

http://www.1src.com/forums/showpost....3&postcount=38

I can actually move around the screen when given the boot options to choose any of them. Am i being really dumb?

free	2008-01-18 17:00

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

PB, for the bzip2 stuff, you can add a "Conflict" line to your deb:

Package: yummy
Architecture: armel
Depends: blabla
Conflicts: bzip2

penguinbait

2008-01-18 18:23

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by free (Post 130012)

PB, for the bzip2 stuff, you can add a "Conflict" line to your deb:

Package: yummy
Architecture: armel
Depends: blabla
Conflicts: bzip2

I know, we'll fix it in next release :)

Kathy

2008-01-19 02:37

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

I finally did it!!!

PB,
Thanks a bunch for your work on KDE. It is really nice. I am looking forward to learning more about it.

Thannks also for all of your help getting up and running. I did end up going with the deb install. I kept having memory card issues.

Thanks again!!!
Kathy

penguinbait

2008-01-19 03:47

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathy (Post 130342)

Glad to see got up, and quickly without help.....

Congrats!!!

bunanson

2008-01-19 04:15

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

"attempt to connect to host computer failed"

Trying to use the remote desktop app to connect the N800 to a winXP profession PC. I can do it under the native system, i.e. Hildon?, I then go into KDE, it connected to the host computer, and give me the menu to type it more info, it then quit and give the above err statement? I get out of KDE and use the rdesktop and it wont connect now. I reboot the N800, and the rdesktop is now able to connect. I have not tried VNC yet.

bun

dubwise

2008-01-19 05:04

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Well, I found a new way to screw the install up.

Freshly flashed N810, installing to internal MMC2.
Files sizes all triple checked.
I put the MMC2 files on a 4 gig card,
stuck it in the MMC1 slot, and tried to install from there.
First file installed fine, made the swap and the image.
Errored out early on the second file.
Log didn't say what it couldn't find.
Your description in the broken installed file, however,
told me something I haven't read anywhere else.

The .BZ2 file has to be on the card you're installing to.

The install was hosed, and the uninstall didn't work.
The internal card was hosed.
Powering up with the USB cable already in beat the locked card problem,
allowing my PC to reformat the borked internal card.
Flash again, copy all four files to MMC2,
and we're off and running.

I've got a good feeling about it this time.

TheAlchemist

2008-01-19 20:19

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

The instructions do not make it clear that the KDE358.tar file must be named KDE358.tar.bz2! It was downloading to my PC as KDE358.tar.tar which I copied to the sd card at mmc1 on my N810, but when I attempted to install I kept getting an error when trying to install the kde-3.5.8-mmc1.deb file. I tried reflashing and re-downloading but kept getting the same error until I renamed the file to KDE358.tar.bz2 on my mmc1 card. I then got a good install!!

dubwise

2008-01-19 20:32

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Up and running, having a lot of fun poking around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 124939)

Swap was enabled when you installed KDE. just don't delete swap.img

In Maemo Control Pane | Memory,
Extend virtual memory is not checked.
Is the swap something that just KDE uses,
or is it really not enabled?

Also, if you should happen to edit the first post in this thread,
there's still a bunch of invisible yellow text. (another Classic view user)

penguinbait

2008-01-19 20:43

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubwise (Post 130642)

Up and running, having a lot of fun poking around.

In Maemo Control Pane | Memory,
Extend virtual memory is not checked.
Is the swap something that just KDE uses,
or is it really not enabled?

Also, if you should happen to edit the first post in this thread,
there's still a bunch of invisible yellow text. (another Classic view user)

The swap is enabled but not through control-panel

In xterm, do

NOKIA:/ ROOT#free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 126828 117596 9232 0 208
Swap: 131064 100 130964
Total: 257892 117696 140196
NOKIA:/ ROOT#

dubwise

2008-01-19 20:59

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAlchemist (Post 130633)

The instructions do not make it clear that the KDE358.tar file must be named KDE358.tar.bz2! It was downloading to my PC as KDE358.tar.tar

I'm glad you figured it out. Pretty cool, this learning stuff.

Vista, right? That's mentioned a couple of times in this thread alone.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...4&postcount=39

The files are also explicitly named many places along with the admonition to check the file sizes.

Perhaps it's not clear that the entire thread is the instructions.
Numerous issues have come up and been answered here.

ITalic

2008-01-20 13:33

Uninstalling kde-3.5.8-mmcX.deb after initial install is unsuccessful

First off -- thanks to penguinbait and and everybody else that fills this forum with quality info. This device would be pretty dull without all their impressive hacking.

If, for some reason, you get a Cannot install package when attempting to install the kde-3.5.8-mmcX.deb package, you probably won't be able to uninstall or install it again. Several people have had to reflash the device.

The above happened to me last night. The reason, as I found out, Windows XP automatically renamed the .tar.bz2 file to .tar.tar (so, this renaming doesn't just happen on Vista. Unfortunately, I didn't realize it had happened until I attempted install of the second package, and got the failed install). Multiple attempts at re-installing/removing/updating were unsuccessful... The only recourse was to exit into terminal and do the following (you probably have to be root):

rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/kde-mmc*
dpkg --remove --force-depends --force-remove-reinstreq kde-mmcX

This uninstalls the package. You can now attempt install of kde-mmcX again.

TabletKev

2008-01-20 14:03

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Make sure the tar.tar file is renamed after you download it. Renaming beforehand resulted in a very small file being downloaded. (260kb or so). And yes, this happens to XP Pro and Home as well as Vista.

PinCushionQueen

2008-01-20 14:47

Re: KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 130652)

I'm a little confused - how is the 128MB of swap enabled if not through Maemo Control Panel? Are you saying that you've added something to the KDE install to automagically enable 128MB of swap for KDE? If so does this mean I can turn it off in Maemo (since I hardly use Maemo anyways)? Or is my set up going to be different because I'm dual booting?

Also, you can get all of the memory/CPU usage details in KMenu -> System -> KSysGuard (I couldn't get your xterm NOKIA:/ command to work). FWIW, I've used KSysGuard a lot in my experiments to attempt to find the optimal KDE set up for me.

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