Re: Nokia after CES 2008
 

Hi Robert. What is a "mid" and as far as CES2008, which "mids" were you referring to that are better than the N810?

Re: Nokia after CES 2008
 

mid = Mobile Internet Device

Re: Nokia after CES 2008
 

- +1 funny, but also quite astute... i'm *very* disappointed with the pipe from Finland... i think Nokia needs to rethink its choice of provider

(i did notice Nokia's hosting OS switched from Solaris to Linux in the past six months - not a good recommendation?)

:-)

on_topic: the iPhone shows that an integrated keyboard is not necessary for a successful device - i purposely did not buy an n810 *because* it had a keyboard... JMHO, YMMV...

Re: Nokia after CES 2008
 

Greetings:

Some of the strong Mobile Interent Devices(Thanks FraseJ) that shined at CES 2008 were:

1) the Aigo MId: http://www.umpcportal.com/products/product.php?id=162

2) the BenQ MId: http://www.umpcportal.com/products/product.php?id=156

3) The EB MIMD: http://www.umpcportal.com/products/product.php?id=117

4) The Gigabyte Mid: http://www.umpcportal.com/products/product.php?id=170

5) The Lenovo Mid: http://www.umpcportal.com/products/product.php?id=163

I still think Nokia was 1 year ahead of its time bringing out the N800 as a MID.

But not we have Intel Menlow CPU and the competition is catching up.

Come on Nokia what do you have up your sleeve?

I hope its that Intergrated LCD projection system in the next N900!!!!

Comments from anyone, keep them coming.

Regards Robert

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I think the new MIDs will be to Intel what the 770 was to Nokia - a first attempt, and there will be some good things but also some bad. Weight and power consumption with this first Intel attempt is almost certainly going to be a negative issue to those familiar with Nokia ARM designs, but with so many companies backing the Intel MID platform I expect them to be a big success at the first attempt, and they will only get better with Generation 2 and beyond.

A Nokia with an OMAP3 processor would be interesting later this year, and a multi-core ARM in 2009 could be stiff competition to x86! :) However I don't think the hardware is going to be the downfall of Nokia (unless they stuff up the video bandwidth again, and fail to improve the touchscreen responsiveness). No, the poor software stack - ie. continued dependence on closed source code and NDA hardware, no 3D or A2DP support, no PIM (unless Nokia benefit from x86 development, which is possible) - and mundane UI design (again x86/GNOME Hildon development may help here) will be their most obvious failing.

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There's no way they could manage that, OMAP3430 supports up to 1024x768!

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Wanna place a bet?! ;)

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According to other releases, I would expect two new tablets: one that's wimax and not much better than the n810 and the other would be similar to the n93. Basically a device that would essentially be a halo as to what MIDs can do.

Nokia will have to clean up UI\UX issues though. Consumers won't go for anything else other than Apple's bar.

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I'm sure Nokia has gained a lot of experience over the past two years dealing with Linux that the MID providers don't have. We all make assumptions that whatever they produce will not have any problems, no update issues and perform flawlessly just like the UMPC did :rolleyes: I think it will be hard to beat TI with processor efficiency Mhz for Mhz. x86 compatibility allows more applications to be used "off the shelf", but probably wont be well integrated unless time is spent on the UI - the one thing most Linux distributions fail to do well.

Also I think the MIDs will be competing for the same dollars (along with other MIDs around the same price). By the time these come out the N810 will be $350 USD if not cheaper. The N810, NXXX might be the easy choice because maturity, UI, price and performance (as a function of battery life and speed).

Re: Nokia after CES 2008
 

My prediction for what little it is worth. The next new nokia is likly to be a vevamp of the n800. basically a N810 without the keyboard that allows it to be iphone slim. or close.

This is also likly to include an optional radio chip interface. either wimax or some chipset that can be configured inhouse for multiple technologies. Nokia has already indicated that they consider the main purpose of the internet tablet to be a test platform for mobile internet devices in third world coutries as the improve technology. radio suport beyond wifi. and configurability in a nessesety to support this.