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cairn 2008-01-24 20:47

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I'm keeping an eye on the Pandora project too. I decided to pass on the N810 (very happy with my N800) so I'm looking forward to the next tablet and/or Pandora. I have no interest in WiMax since it'll be ages before it's available in my area, but I'm looking forward to other hardware upgrades.

Karel Jansens 2008-01-24 21:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cairn (Post 133242)
P AND OR A, Pandora. Of course.

125 points!

Texrat 2008-01-24 22:27

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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 133288)
125 points!

Just thank him 125 times.

cairn, get posting!

Viipottaja 2008-01-25 18:00

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Texrat, we had fun guessing the name. Now, you MUST out of loyalty to the happy and tightknit family of IT lovers gives a hint (or two) (or three) about what its actually like - just N800/N810 + WiMax chip? Or something different/better? Come on man, you are killing me with curiosity. And I am not even a cat. Maybe a dog.

Texrat 2008-01-25 18:05

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Eh, I only have scant detail, Viipottaja, and if I knew more I couldn't/wouldn't say. I have loyalty to my job, too. Almost as much. ;)

GeneralAntilles 2008-01-25 18:33

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 133679)
Eh, I only have scant detail, Viipottaja, and if I knew more I couldn't/wouldn't say. I have loyalty to my job, too. Almost as much. ;)

/me continues prodding. :p

Kozzi 2008-01-25 18:40

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that's it, it's a 770 with WiMAX.

sjgadsby 2008-01-25 18:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kozzi (Post 133703)
that's it, it's a 770 with WiMAX.

Oh, how I hope they call it the N770. The confusion it would cause!

GeneralAntilles 2008-01-25 19:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 133708)
Oh, how I hope they call it the N770. The confusion it would cause!

Ehehe. That would be fun. :D

Texrat 2008-01-25 19:31

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 133695)
/me continues prodding. :p

Quit that. It tickles.

mullf 2008-01-26 02:51

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Texrat, will the new tablet fix the GPS problems? If it requires cold-start time for each fix, even when your last one was only an hour ago, then I can't justify buying it. If I buy it, I need it to replace both my 770 AND my stand-alone GPS receiver, which does hot- and warm-starts just fine (as is the industry standard). If the new tablet has a properly-working GPS and WiMAX, I am all over it!

Texrat 2008-01-26 06:01

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I don't know anything about work related to GPS, sorry.

johnkzin 2008-01-30 17:38

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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 133202)
Virtual beerpoints to whoever "gets" the name I proposed.

Except if I've seen you on "that" forum. You know who you are, Pupnik.

Here's that name again: P&|A.

Pretty easy, if you're a programmer...

Greyghost 2008-01-30 18:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Viipottaja (Post 133674)
Come on man, you are killing me with curiosity. And I am not even a cat. Maybe a dog.

Forget it man...won't work. TR let my old cat go without so much as a whisper of the release date last year...but then rats don't like cats...:rolleyes:maybe it's better you're a dog...;)

ompa 2008-01-31 13:33

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I'm probably pushing my luck here, but it's for the sake of decision. With the release would anyone expect the N810 to drop below $300? I ask this because if it would, I'll probably wait the extra month or two, but if it isn't, I'll just get an N800. Alternatively if the new one launches at sub $350 I'd probably consider that one...

bartsimpson123844 2008-01-31 22:07

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I doubt the N810 will drop below $350 anytime soon. I also think the new IT will also include integrated GPS like the N810; therefore, I believe the new IT will be well over $350. Hopefully, they will upgrade the Processor and include 2 full size SD slots and a better digi/web cam. If they do that much, I would expect it to be quite high. I would, however, still buy one.

johnkzin 2008-01-31 22:17

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I'd rather have 2 microSD slots than 2 SD slots.

It'll be interesting to see what improvements they work into it.

GeneralAntilles 2008-01-31 22:20

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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 136393)
I'd rather have 2 microSD slots than 2 SD slots.

I wouldn't prefer it, but I could deal with that if "size constraints" still factored into it.

lad 2008-01-31 23:26

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I still think that the PIM market will be getting more crowded and competitive and the new Nokia will have to stand out in price/features somehow. The N810, esp. compared to the N800, suffers for this.

Akai Kenshi 2008-01-31 23:55

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Does anyone know if WiMax will be interoperable with LTE (which seems to have ton of industry momentum)? I'm really wary of another set of competing mobile standards.

ag2 2008-02-01 00:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mullf (Post 133899)
Texrat, will the new tablet fix the GPS problems? If it requires cold-start time for each fix, even when your last one was only an hour ago, then I can't justify buying it. If I buy it, I need it to replace both my 770 AND my stand-alone GPS receiver, which does hot- and warm-starts just fine (as is the industry standard). If the new tablet has a properly-working GPS and WiMAX, I am all over it!

Moreover, the current standard for cold fixes is 30 seconds (MTK, Sirf chips). I really hope the next Nokia tablet will dump the piece-of-you-know-what Texas Instruments GPS chip.

Better yet, give us offline AGPS. With offline AGPS, you download a 50k file once every 10 days, and get all fixes in about 5 seconds. Now, wouldn't that be sweet?

Texrat 2008-02-01 14:46

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Originally Posted by lad (Post 136416)
I still think that the PIM market will be getting more crowded and competitive and the new Nokia will have to stand out in price/features somehow. The N810, esp. compared to the N800, suffers for this.

When we release a PIM, we'll take that into consideration. :D

kdub420 2008-02-04 11:19

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They offer wimax in QUE?
kdub

mwiktowy 2008-02-04 11:39

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Originally Posted by ag2 (Post 136434)
Moreover, the current standard for cold fixes is 30 seconds (MTK, Sirf chips). I really hope the next Nokia tablet will dump the piece-of-you-know-what Texas Instruments GPS chip.

Kind of off topic for this thread but ...

It seems that the problem is not the hardware after all. The problem was a buggy gpsd (or buggy function feeding gpsd the date) that was giving the wrong date by exactly a day ... which cases the gps to cold start every single time. Jussi Kukkonen found the problem and made a fixed deb available here:

http://vilunki.wordpress.com/2008/02...-gps-problems/

(Isn't it great to have the source code available?)

I downloaded it an installed it (must be in Red Pill mode ... just the plain gpsd ... not the gpsd-dev or gpsd-dbg) and it didn't kill my N810 but I won't get a chance to test it until my drive home.

mwiktowy 2008-02-04 16:08

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Originally Posted by mwiktowy (Post 137932)
I won't get a chance to test it until my drive home.

The improvement was quite dramatic on the warm start. It still had to cold start (~4 minutes while moving) the first time but the time was reduced quite a bit even after a reboot while still moving (~1 minute while moving). When stopping and starting the maps apps while stationary, the GPS reacquired a position very quickly (~15 seconds).

Red 2008-02-04 16:38

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N820
N900
N910
N830

I'm guessing it's one of the above.

Texrat 2008-02-04 20:27

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Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

GeneralAntilles 2008-02-04 20:32

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RX-48 . . . what can we take from that?

I want to say it'll be similar to the N810, but my instincts tell me we don't have enough data on the model codes to be sure.

How's Nokia on trailing letters? Maybe an N810w or N810i?

sjgadsby 2008-02-04 20:36

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 138135)
Nope.

While I'm still rooting for "Netsucker", I suspect Nokia will choose something more understated. Perhaps this is a trailing lowercase letter situation. So, Nokia N810i or the like.

EDIT: Ah, nuts. The General beat me to it.

Texrat 2008-02-04 20:39

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I can neither confirm nor deny the general's prescience. His speed, however, is obvious.

fpp 2008-02-04 20:43

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That's illogical -- the 'i' suffix is when they add "internet capability" (generally a browser) to an existing phone. The "Internet Tablet", of course, already has what it takes to have the 'i'... but it's not a phone. So something like N800p or N810p could make sense... if they were to add a SIM slot to the tablets. But then they would have to add PIM functionality too, so we know it's out of the question :-)

I'm still rooting for an E-something.

CyberCat 2008-02-04 20:45

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I've got a feeling it probably starts with N9* (wild card).

GeneralAntilles 2008-02-04 20:51

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Originally Posted by CyberCat (Post 138144)
I've got a feeling it probably starts with N9* (wild card).

Nah, there's no way it's a 900-series. N9?? would imply a big changeup in hardware (OMAP3, etc), which the model code suggests against. Besides, an N9?? release would piss off far too many new N810 owners.

CyberCat 2008-02-04 21:27

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 138147)
Nah, there's no way it's a 900-series. N9?? would imply a big changeup in hardware (OMAP3, etc), which the model code suggests against. Besides, an N9?? release would piss off far too many new N810 owners.

I don't know. We already know it starts with N, we know it's not N820 or N830. I suppose it could be like N850 or N890 maybe. They could use the last digit too, like N895, N815, N835, etc. Is Nokia in the habit of using revision letters? Maybe we're talking something like *A or *a, *B, etc.

To be honest, I'm actually much more interested in finding out what other features are planned for the unit than its actual name.

Texrat 2008-02-04 21:51

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I will say it is NOT an N9xx. GA's logic is spot-on there.

johnkzin 2008-02-04 22:22

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Hm. Wonder about a minor version number increment. Like N811.

CyberCat 2008-02-04 22:24

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 138182)
I will say it is NOT an N9xx. GA's logic is spot-on there.

Really. Interesting, well, I suppose my hunch was incorrect. In that case I'm going to say it'll be N8??. The second digit has to be 4-9, and the last will probably be 0, maybe 5 or 1. The vast majority of Nokia phones have 0 at the end.

bartsimpson123844 2008-02-04 22:31

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I was thinking N880? Kind of like the N770?

CyberCat 2008-02-04 22:33

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Originally Posted by bartsimpson123844 (Post 138204)
I was thinking N880? Kind of like the N770?

Yeah, I'm thinking N880 or N890.

pipeline 2008-02-04 22:36

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I think the rumored WiMax (WM) was incorrect... its actually that they realized their error of omission in the N8x0 series and they are planning a return to Magic Magnet™ technology!

So maybe N810+MM or both wimax -and- magic magnets! N810+MM+WM


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