Re: WiMAX Internet Tablet Update
 

sounds like the keyboard could have benefited from a altgr key ;)
altgr+shift+y seems to produce the talked about symbol: ¥

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Personally, I'd prefer to see no direct WiMAX version of the N800 nor N810. Instead, I'd like to see a device like the CenterPoint PHS-300 that has 1 USB-client port for charging an internal battery, configuration, and use as a USB network adaptor, 1 RJ45 port for direct ethernet, and a low power Wifi radio (maybe GPS too). Then different models for:

• European GSM/UMTS/HSPA/etc.
• USA GSM/UMTS/HSPA/etc. (supporting both AT&T and T-Mobile)
• CDMA 1xRTT/EVDO
• WiMAX
• Perhaps LTE if it's not rolled in to the GSM models

And, for the CDMA and GSM versions, it has a built in SIP server and very light Jabber server, so that you can use a SIP client to make phone calls and a Jabber client to interact with SMS/MMS.

And it would have a small https web server for configuration.

The internal battery should be big enough to last most of a day (6-8 hours), if not all day (12-18ish hours). Dual hot-swappable batteries might be cool. Especially if it has an external USB battery charger you can buy.

I think those would be much better products than an N800 or N810 with built-in WiMAX.

I think micrsoSDHC is a much better direction to go than SDHC or miniSD. But it's a difference between "do you want your device to be able to read everything (use full size), or to have its cards readable in everything (use micro)." What makes no sense to me, however, is using miniSD.

As for the speakers, the directionality is not "toward everyone else", it's to the sides. And it's not like you, the user, can't hear it. In fact, you probably get better sterophonic quality out of the side facing speakers than out of the face speakers. Maybe imperceptibly less volume, but the sound will come from a wider angle, I think, and thus give you better stereophonics.

I don't care about mini vs micro USB, honestly. Either way you need a special cable.

I agree about the placement of the Dpad. There should be 1 dpad on the left side of the face, one dpad on the right side of the face, and each one should be selectable to be "button cluster" vs "dpad". You shouldn't have to slide out the keyboard to use the dpad.

You can do the pipe symbol. Hit the "Chr" button, and 2 rows of special symbols pop up on the screen. Down arrow (on the menu, not on the dpad) once. Pipe is almost top middle.

I don't do long complex pipelines from the N810 much, so it's not a big deal to me. But, it would be nice if you could easily remap the keyboard through a control panel app, so that you could, say, swap the Euro, Pound, or Yen keys to things like pipes or curley-brackets or back-quotes. I also find it unusual that the double quote isn't the shift of the single quote (the question mark is both the shift AND fn of the single quote; could have just been the fn and not the shift), just like the way the semi-colon, colon, and pound are done).


I do NOT like the sidekick keyboard, in that it has those hard to press bubble keys. What I want from the N810 keyboard is more of a click feel when you successfully hit a key (sometimes I get no feeling at all from clicking a key), and it should be less overall force than it is now. Basically, the ergonomics of a keypress on the N810 are horrible. But, in terms of force, the sidekick's I've used were WORSE, not better.

A more convex key surface might be ok, but not as convex (to the point of being little bubbles) as the sidekick.

For lots of typing, yes, I also use my iGo. For quick things, like when I'm sitting on the couch and just want to lookup a movie on IMDB, or answer a quick IM, no. The iGo isn't good for that. Nor would I want to use the full screen keyboard for those (I used to on my N800, and I find the slide-out keyboard to be much better).

As for the GPS... I'd rather not have either (internal nor external).

I have a Pelican 1040 with foam inserts for carrying my N810. Makes it a little bit more bulky (not pocketable anymore), but I'm fine with that. I just shove it in my maxpedition bag, and away I go.

Re: WiMAX Internet Tablet Update
 

What do you lot make of this :

source

Re: WiMAX Internet Tablet Update
 

How about this??

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/25/c...oin-forces-on/

All these companies wont be in if wimax is not that good

Re: WiMAX Internet Tablet Update
 

Yeah, it sounds more like the Oz company simply implemented WiMAX poorly, not that WiMAX poor on its own.

Re: WiMAX Internet Tablet Update
 

Comcast, Sprint, Google May Fund WiMax....sounds like it's gonna happen! ;-)

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I want me a WiMAX/GPS tablet NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If Nokia added a Centrino Atom processor to the N810, and dropped the price, I would trade up from my N800 in an instant. Two problems taken care of with one upgrade, battery life and performance!

Re: WiMAX Internet Tablet Update
 

Ha . . . Hahaha . . . HAHAHAHAHAHA

Fail.

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From here, that looks more like improving performance, slaughtering battery life, and breaking compatibility. Centrino Atom (previously Menlow) has ground-breakingly low power-consumption for x86-compatible processors, but not overall.

And going ARM -> x86 in a similar device seems ******ed. It's almost time for a new design at any rate; if Nokia wants to jump on Intel's MID bandwagon, they could do so with a fresh design, instead of basing it off the N810 which is designed to be highly compatible with the N800.

Re: WiMAX Internet Tablet Update
 

meh, cortex A8 (later A9) all the way ;)

what the wattage of the atom at full effect, and whats the same for the cortex ones again?

Re: WiMAX Internet Tablet Update
 

TexRat, you want something to test? How about this.

1. Association speed. How long does it take to connect to a WiMax link?

2. Signal strength. How well does it work indoors? How about outdoors with big buildings and signal reflections?

3. Seamless handoffs, both slow (walking) and fast (driving at highway speeds). Do media streams drop or stutter? Please let someone else drive while you test. :-)

4. Battery time with WiMax and GPS active at the same time.

5. CPU usage with a WiMax connection established.

That is all I can think of for now. Standard wireless test stuff.

Charles