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directore 2008-03-22 22:44

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
For those on OS X, Visual Hub will take almost anything even things QTP won't. Including commercial DVD disks if you use a liitle utility called FairMount which will magically unmount and quickly (in less than 10s) remount any mounted encrypted DVD but in unencrypted form. So you can convert any DVD to n800 compatible format w/o any intermediate transcoding. See my other post on converting in H264 for n8x0 as opposed to MPEG4 which is what Nokia converter does. Highly recommended imho.

My only problem with V. Hub it its inability to do partial converts - from point a to b say. That unfortunately sometimes necessitates transcoding.

superstar 2008-03-23 15:24

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcdave2042 (Post 158697)
Hi,

I can't get the DVD shrink/Nokia Conservtor thing to work. I can produce VOB files (which play on VLC player fine) but when I try to put them into the Nokia convertor it says the file type isn't recognised.

So, I tried doing an ISO file- same problem.

I've also tried a few avi convertors and they come up with all this codec stuff (which I don't undetstand).

I'd appreciate any help, but I'm not very technical! I've been trying to do this for ages and am about to give up. :mad:

Many thanks

David

Read this post

GeraldKo 2008-03-23 17:37

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by superstar (Post 159112)
Read this post

McDave, note that superstar is using N800 Video Convert, which is not the same as NITVC.

I also use N800 Video Convert and DVD Shrink and have no problems. I recommend you let DVDShrink make files with no size limitation (see your preferences for that option) -- that results in the whole movie being in a single VOB file, readily recognized since it's the largest. Once you have NVC open, just open the single VOB file, add it and encode.

slimjim 2008-03-24 14:24

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
I haven't read through this whole thread so apologies if someone's already covered this, but Linux users can take advantage of a number of excellent open-source tools for this.

This is a script I wrote, which makes use of the 'mencoder' utility to convert episodes of M*A*S*H directly from DVD to N800-friendly, 15:9 cropped, widescreen AVIs:

Code:

#!/bin/bash

cropval=720:576:0:0 # MASH

lsdvd  |cut -c-24

typeset -i sind

echo -n "first title "; read first
echo -n "last title  "; read last
echo -n "filename  "; read fname

echo -n "start index  "
read sind

typeset -i cnt=$((sind - 1))
for i in $(seq $first $last); do
    cnt=$((cnt+1))
    oname=${fname}_$(printf "%02d" $cnt).avi
    echo encoding $oname
    mencoder dvd://$i -dvd-device /dev/dvd -aid 129 -af volume=16:0 -o $oname \
            -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=mp3:abitrate=48 \
            -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:autoaspect:vbitrate=480 \
            -vf scale=400:300,crop=400:240:0:20 \
            -ffourcc DIVX \
            -idx

done

I run it with the DVD in the drive. It invites me to select which titles I want to rip, the filename and a 'start index' to start numbering the titles from.

Then it gets on with it!

I'd suggest that anyone who might find it useful investigate the various man pages for mencoder. There's a trade-off between filesize and quality, of course - you may find that a higher audio bitrate is appropriate than I've chosen here, for example, or you might not need to increase the audio volume, as I've done here. Or you might wish to trim some rough edges from your material with a different crop value. The 'acidrip' package is very good for guessing crop values automatically.

Happy to answer any questions.

Deaj 2008-03-25 02:17

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quick question - how much storage space will an average 90 minute DVD require after conversion for use on a NIT?

GeraldKo 2008-03-25 02:33

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deaj (Post 159739)
Quick question - how much storage space will an average 90 minute DVD require after conversion for use on a NIT?

About 340MB

mcdave2042 2008-03-25 08:09

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Many thanks GeraldKo. I didn't realise they were different. It's working fine now.

speculatrix 2008-03-25 10:33

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 159744)
About 340MB

I get about the same with my 2-pass script, if I try and shrink any more the quality loss is quite noticeable. On a recent long journey the n800 kept my son busy for quite a while watching a ripped DVD!

Jaffa 2008-03-25 10:41

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
The next version of tablet-encode will enhance its DVD ripping auto-selection mode (which selects the longest title on the DVD) with a --all option, which rips all titles within 10% of the longest track.

This'll mean that you can insert a DVD of a TV show (such as Star Trek or M*A*S*H and rip all the episodes direct to your Nokia with:

Code:

tablet-encode --all dvd: /media/nokia-external/
Shiny, n'est pas?

slimjim 2008-03-25 11:56

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 159744)
About 340MB

That's roughly the level of compression I use, as well. A 24-min TV programme represented as 400x240 ends up as a ~97MB file, typically. Remarkable when you consider that you can get about 40 onto a 4G micro-SD card, when you compare the size of one of those to a VHS tape :D

Karel Jansens 2008-03-25 13:41

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slimjim (Post 159850)
That's roughly the level of compression I use, as well. A 24-min TV programme represented as 400x240 ends up as a ~97MB file, typically. Remarkable when you consider that you can get about 40 onto a 4G micro-SD card, when you compare the size of one of those to a VHS tape :D

It's even more amazing if you compare it to super 8mm film, magic lantern slides or a sheet of papyrus.

Deaj 2008-03-25 16:29

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 159744)
About 340MB

Thanks! Sounds like an 8GB SDHC card would be more than adequate for my needs then. :)

Gopher428 2008-03-27 13:11

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
I am having problems with the Nokia Media player recognizing files in the VOB or ISO format. I have my movies in a folder named "Movies", my Nokia will recognize and play videos in the MP4 format, but not these other formats.

I should mention that the VOB and ISO files play fine on the n800 converter program, just not on my actual Nokia.

What am I missing here? Is there another step?

P.S. I am technologically challenged, so please be kind :)

GeraldKo 2008-03-27 16:17

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
You need to use the N800 Video Convert to convert the videos, from, say, VOB to avi. Here are basic instructions. Use google on this forum's home page to find desirable tweaks.

Modred189 2008-03-27 16:41

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gopher428 (Post 160889)
I am having problems with the Nokia Media player recognizing files in the VOB or ISO format. I have my movies in a folder named "Movies", my Nokia will recognize and play videos in the MP4 format, but not these other formats.

I should mention that the VOB and ISO files play fine on the n800 converter program, just not on my actual Nokia.

What am I missing here? Is there another step?

P.S. I am technologically challenged, so please be kind :)

Nvc is a little 'obtuse' to just pick up and try. Definitely read some instructions but...
The trick is to hit the 'add' button for each file you want to convert. This adds them to a batch. Then hit 'start' to convert them.

Deaj 2008-03-28 04:24

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
I'm having a little trouble. DVD Shrink only seems to produce .VOB files and neither 'N800 Video Convert' nor 'Internet Tablet Video Converter' seems to recognize this file format. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

GeraldKo 2008-03-28 05:14

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deaj (Post 161313)
I'm having a little trouble. DVD Shrink only seems to produce .VOB files and neither 'N800 Video Convert' nor 'Internet Tablet Video Converter' seems to recognize this file format. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

I assure you that N800 VC does recognize .VOB files. See my post #54 above for instructions. You're doing something wrong.

If that doesn't help, you're going to have to explain exactly what you're doing. (Once you have created the .VOB file, you ought to be able to click Open in N800 VC and navigate to the VOB file -- it's the biggest file that you want -- then see it in the preview, and then click Add. Then start the conversion.)

mandrake64 2008-03-28 09:10

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Hi, I have a problem about DVD Shrink. I have opened a dvd video disc(16:9) that I prepared from my video camera and choose iso image file after finishing the convertion I drag and dropped in the N800 video convert . After the convertion I opened the video it looks bad aspect ratio like 4:3. I couldn't find anywhere in DVD Shrink video aspect ratio selection option. So I tried another program Winavi Video Converter to dvd-divx convertion and the result is very good, no wrong aspect ratio. Then I transfer the video to NVC and the last result is very good. How and where can we select aspect ratio in DVD Shrink?
Thanks in Advance

TheJoker 2008-03-28 10:07

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 159829)
The next version of tablet-encode will enhance its DVD ripping auto-selection mode (which selects the longest title on the DVD) with a --all option, which rips all titles within 10% of the longest track.

This'll mean that you can insert a DVD of a TV show (such as Star Trek or M*A*S*H and rip all the episodes direct to your Nokia with:

Code:

tablet-encode --all dvd: /media/nokia-external/
Shiny, n'est pas?

Jaffa, is there any notification list or something that I can sign up to to get notifications about when you release this feature?! Maybe I'll finally get to ripping my Simpsons DVDs... :)

Jaffa 2008-03-28 13:26

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheJoker (Post 161388)
Jaffa, is there any notification list or something that I can sign up to to get notifications about when you release this feature?! Maybe I'll finally get to ripping my Simpsons DVDs... :)

In Garage you can select notifications for new releases. Click on:

https://garage.maemo.org/frs/monitor...id=455&start=1

I'll also announce it on maemo-users (though for some reason I keep getting unsubscribed from it for too many bounces) and my maemopeople blog.

TheJoker 2008-03-28 15:04

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 161453)
In Garage you can select notifications for new releases. Click on:

https://garage.maemo.org/frs/monitor...id=455&start=1

Much appreciated! Thanks! :cool:

Deaj 2008-03-28 15:29

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 161324)
I assure you that N800 VC does recognize .VOB files. See my post #54 above for instructions. You're doing something wrong.

If that doesn't help, you're going to have to explain exactly what you're doing. (Once you have created the .VOB file, you ought to be able to click Open in N800 VC and navigate to the VOB file -- it's the biggest file that you want -- then see it in the preview, and then click Add. Then start the conversion.)

Thanks for the quick reply!

I found the issue. When I tried to download ver. 0.8.4.0 I received a 'page not found' error from my browser. I downloaded the 0.8.4.1 beta which was the only responsive link at the time. The beta download is the .exe only so I gather it was in need of additional files. I was able to download 0.8.4.0 this morning and I have it working.

Thanks again! :)

blakboy98 2008-03-28 16:58

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
I know it costs money but DVDFab has worked flawlessly for me. You only need to use the PSP option and it will save the dvd to mp4 with a few clicks. No need to use Nokias VC either. I have been converting as much as possible while the free trial hold s and so far so good whether the dvd was encrypted or not. It's pretty fast too.

DJames1 2008-03-29 00:49

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mandrake64 (Post 161379)
How and where can we select aspect ratio in DVD Shrink?

Use IFOEdit, open the IFO file of the title set, check what aspect ratio is selected, correct it if required.

mandrake64 2008-03-29 07:46

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DJames1 (Post 161827)
Use IFOEdit, open the IFO file of the title set, check what aspect ratio is selected, correct it if required.

Thank you very much for your advise. I will try when arrived at home.

46jimbo 2008-03-29 18:24

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
I've had a lot of success using Iriverter, a free open source program. It was originally created for iRiver devices. But someone created a profile for the Creative Zen W (which I also own). The profiles are just text files that are easy to edit.

So I have created a profile for the N800, and it seems to work fine.

Use this for converting avi files (Bittorrent is your friend!) or ripped DVD's (use DVD Shrink to rip the movie to a single vob file).

I've uploaded it here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?umg9tmnj0hm

mandrake64 2008-03-30 12:52

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blakboy98 (Post 161543)
I know it costs money but DVDFab has worked flawlessly for me. You only need to use the PSP option and it will save the dvd to mp4 with a few clicks. No need to use Nokias VC either. I have been converting as much as possible while the free trial hold s and so far so good whether the dvd was encrypted or not. It's pretty fast too.

Thanks for your advise. DVDFab converted the DVD to MP4 only 1 hour and quality is good but not as perfect as AutoGK and after NVC combination. But this combination takes 2.5 hours so its not practical like DVDFab. Thank you very much indeed for your good advise.

cashmere 2008-04-14 18:12

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
I use Ubuntu and AcidRip DVD Ripper. Nice 1 step process to rip the DVD to a file (.avi or .mpg). You pick the file size, bitrate, and size of the movie. I usually try to get a bitrate around 580 to 600 and a video size of 400x222. The .avi file size winds up around 600MB for a 2 hour movie. My .avi of Black Hawk Down is about 601MB and plays great on the N800 in Canola. My P4 (Mobile) 2Ghz processor takes about 1.75 times the length of the movie, 1 hour movie takes about 1 hour and 45 minutes. I use also Avidemux, on Ubuntu, to chop out the comercials from TV shows .avi files I have created from DVDs with AcidRip.

Rebski 2008-04-14 18:51

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Thanks for the info on AcidRip. Other Linux choices are Avocado and RockPod 08 Lite both to be found here
http://techlogg1.com/content/view/13/33/
I have tried RockPod 08 and it is OK, I prefer to have a few more options along the lines of your suggestions to set video bitrate manually and for the resolution height to be calculated automatically by the app so as to maintain the aspect ratio of the source.

CloneAD does this very well under Windows, as does Handbrake.

Avocado has a dependency problem on my HardyHeron setup which has yet to be resolved so I can't comment on it yet.

sindown 2008-04-15 01:05

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
out of all the people who have done these rips and converts, has anyone uploaded them anywhere? maybe bittorrent or something. if i start ripping, i might plop some up....

cashmere 2008-04-15 01:16

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Sharing movies on P2P iis a good way to get sued. I would not recommend sharing on P2P.

speculatrix 2008-04-15 09:41

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sindown (Post 169892)
out of all the people who have done these rips and converts, has anyone uploaded them anywhere? maybe bittorrent or something. if i start ripping, i might plop some up....

erm, that's copyright violation (contrary to the press it's not theft, but it is still a criminal act). fair use implies it's ethical to allow people to rip media they *bought* for playback on alternative devices, *but* the RIAA/MPAA deny this is legal but aren't actively persuing people for it *yet*.

Find and support the EFF if you want to get political, but please keep this site free of criminal intent and concentrate on the technical issues.

eslo 2008-04-18 23:54

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Exactly what do you choose on the DVD Shrink thing to get the files in the right format.

GeraldKo 2008-04-19 00:31

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eslo (Post 171814)
Exactly what do you choose on the DVD Shrink thing to get the files in the right format.

Click on the first of the links for Newbies in my signature. Enter:

"dvd shrink" OR dvdshrink settings

You'll be able to educate yourself well.

rheve 2008-11-26 09:36

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Their is a new version of Handbrake (http://handbrake.fr/) working in Linux, Windows and OSX. I tested it for file convertion with good resulls. It also supports DVD convertion, not tested yet.
Here is a profile you can use (save into handbrake/user_presets.xml):
Code:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<ArrayOfPreset xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
  <Preset>
    <Level>1</Level>
    <Name>N800</Name>
    <Query> -f avi -X 400 -Y 240 -e xvid -b 700 -E lame -B 128 -R 44.1 -6 stereo -v</Query>
  </Preset>
</ArrayOfPreset>

This tool allows to use source frame rate and do proper resize of video (no stretching).

kdboutel 2008-11-28 00:04

Re: How To: Convert DVD to N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Modred189 (Post 135243)
Ok, so after a few days of perusing the internet and this forum, and a little fiddling around of my own, here is a 10-step guide to getting a DVD onto your N800.

Just wanted to post a thank you as I used your suggestions to convert a training DVD (that I desperately needed to be portable) for use on my N810.

Kudos and keep up the good work, great site this one is!


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