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n800gps 2008-02-04 02:51

Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Hi,

Is there any Wifi radar application available for Maemo?

Thanks

speculatrix 2008-02-05 00:08

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
kismet?
oh, you mean something reliable?
:-(

bartsimpson123844 2008-02-05 01:34

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Kismet seems to work fine for me...

mikedmann 2008-02-05 04:19

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
As long as you turn off the network manager to stop searching every 5-10 mins, kismet works fine.You'll have to reset wlan after your done, or reboot machine to be able reset mon mode, or use the net again.

n800gps 2008-02-06 04:50

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Cool.

Thanks guys.

walts 2008-02-08 20:43

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
What do you want to do? The connection applet does the same things as WiFi Radar did on the Zaurus. If you want a real scanner, go with Kismet.
I'm trying to get Wellenreiter to work, but it's an uphill battle. It's written in Perl, but there are so many unresolved dependencies.

Walt

mdanehart 2008-02-08 22:05

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
I also have kismet installed on the n810 but really don't know what to do with it...:eek:

bartsimpson123844 2008-02-09 00:14

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Ah man, I have now really starting using Kismet and it really is not working very well. It seems very inconsistent. Anybody know why? Also, I forgot how to reset the wireless *doh*, can someone refresh my memory?

Thanks.

newf 2008-02-09 04:13

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
how does one get and install kismet?

electrolind 2008-02-09 05:06

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Newf,

Start with http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials...le.php/3595531

This will give you an idea of what you're getting into. Kismet is a passive sniffer and with a working GPS you can map what you detect. This is called WarDriving which is a hobby for many in the Network Security field. It also is interesting if you're interested in your own network's security. If you have the resources, a lot of libraries have the book "WarDriving Drive,Detect,Defend" By Chris Hurley, Frank Thornton and Michael Pucol. There are three chapters on setting up and using Kismet on several different distros.

You can get Kismet 2007.01.R1b-1.0 from the Eko One repository in Poland. This is already setup for the Nokia 770/800 wireless "card" (don't know about the 810). You have to edit the kismet.conf to enable GPS.

Best of luck and Welcome to WarDriving!

Karl
electrolind

Mika73 2008-02-09 08:42

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Any screenshots? Runs at OS2008? Its like NetStumbler?

:)

speculatrix 2008-02-09 13:14

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by electrolind (Post 140127)
Newf,
Kismet is a passive sniffer


this is is a very important point - most computers when looking for an access point can be detected because they also broadcast, and also only report the access points which have to be visible; not only is kismet passive and thus can't be detected, it can see the clients too and the process by which they connect to access points (hidden or otherwise)

thus kismet can detect and analyse clients too, and not be detected.

in conjunction with aircrack-ng, they're formidable tools. At previous job, they had a WEP access point which they refused to do anything about, so I left aircrack's sniffer running, and a day later was able to crack the wep key on a laptop in less than 90 seconds. THe same day they turned off the access point!

bhang 2008-02-12 04:53

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by electrolind (Post 140127)
Newf,

Start with http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials...le.php/3595531

This will give you an idea of what you're getting into. Kismet is a passive sniffer and with a working GPS you can map what you detect. This is called WarDriving which is a hobby for many in the Network Security field. It also is interesting if you're interested in your own network's security. If you have the resources, a lot of libraries have the book "WarDriving Drive,Detect,Defend" By Chris Hurley, Frank Thornton and Michael Pucol. There are three chapters on setting up and using Kismet on several different distros.

You can get Kismet 2007.01.R1b-1.0 from the Eko One repository in Poland. This is already setup for the Nokia 770/800 wireless "card" (don't know about the 810). You have to edit the kismet.conf to enable GPS.

Best of luck and Welcome to WarDriving!

Karl
electrolind

I have this repository in my list but I cant find kismet...

Im an UberNoob but I thought I was better than this...
Any other tips?

almost all of my repos. came from gronmayer...if that helps

bhang

dburr10085 2008-02-26 20:59

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
any chance of getting netstumbler for maemo?

brendan 2008-02-26 21:08

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bhang (Post 141376)
I have this repository in my list but I cant find kismet...

you have to install a version of kismet that is not "ported" for 2008, although it runs on it...

http://eko.one.pl/maemo/dists/mistra...-1.0_armel.deb

briand 2008-02-26 23:45

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
it might run on it, but you can't install (well, I can't, anyway) it from that link. It downloads okay, but Application Manager balks with:

Unable to install kismet.
Some application packages required for the installation are missing.

the [Details] button reveals that it's looking for

libpcap0.8 (>=0.9.3-1)
ncurses-base

Laughing Man 2008-02-27 00:23

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Yeah, I had the same problem.

b-man 2008-02-28 04:22

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
I think that there could be some unknown repository for the missing packages that you need to install. That could be the problem, when i have a problem installing a applicatin i try to google the app and get more details about installing it.

bluesubaru 2008-02-28 04:46

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
libpcap0.8

I installed with apt-get

and

ncurses-base

I found a repository and installed with application manager; and then Kismet installed fine.

Laughing Man 2008-02-28 20:21

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Mind letting us know where you found that repo? Or the address?

brendan 2008-02-28 20:43

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
start here...

http://gronmayer.com/it/

bluesubaru 2008-02-28 21:08

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
ncurses-base

http://repository.maemo.org/
chinook | free non-free

bhang 2008-02-29 00:24

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
I was attempting to do some "warwalking" yesterday with the built in app while on my way to catch a bus, I was looking to download E. Goldstien's radio show "Off The Wall" before I had to use my painfully slow edge cellie connection and it was impossible, the addition of "wifi info" helped a bit, but it seemed that these apps would be some of the first ported/developed for an handheld that basically REQUIRES wifi access to be any fun, "in the wild" which is where it was meant to be used, when Im at home in the area of my wifi AP, Ive got a handful of PCs and my Wii that all have browsers that are much easier to use, right? so lets get some good tools to look for wifi hotspots while in the wild, since "warCHALKING" never caught on we need some way to find APs...

with all that complaining in mind, realize Im not a developer and I have no ability to do it on my own...so all I can do is whine :)


bhang

Johnx 2008-02-29 03:17

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bhang (Post 149243)
I was attempting to do some "warwalking" yesterday with the built in app while on my way to catch a bus, I was looking to download E. Goldstien's radio show "Off The Wall" before I had to use my painfully slow edge cellie connection and it was impossible, the addition of "wifi info" helped a bit, but it seemed that these apps would be some of the first ported/developed for an handheld that basically REQUIRES wifi access to be any fun, "in the wild" which is where it was meant to be used, when Im at home in the area of my wifi AP, Ive got a handful of PCs and my Wii that all have browsers that are much easier to use, right? so lets get some good tools to look for wifi hotspots while in the wild, since "warCHALKING" never caught on we need some way to find APs...

Kismet works if you search and read up on the forums. The only problem it runs into is that Nokia's connection manager tends to interfere with it...which is probably one of the reasons why there aren't more wifi finding apps: wlancond interferes with anything else trying to use mess with the wireless chipset.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhang (Post 149243)
with all that complaining in mind, realize Im not a developer and I have no ability to do it on my own...so all I can do is whine :)

Two things:
1) A lot of people fall into that category I guess. That's why these apps aren't out there for the tablet.
2) Developers weren't born with the ability to program. They had to learn it...Maybe it's time you gave it a shot? :D

t3h 2008-02-29 05:42

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dburr10085 (Post 148178)
any chance of getting netstumbler for maemo?

No, it's closed source, Windows-only and fully supports only one model of card which is older than obsolete.

bhang 2008-02-29 12:53

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnx (Post 149301)
Kismet works if you search and read up on the forums. The only problem it runs into is that Nokia's connection manager tends to interfere with it...which is probably one of the reasons why there aren't more wifi finding apps: wlancond interferes with anything else trying to use mess with the wireless chipset.

I was looking for it in the app installer, but couldnt get it to show in my list late last night, im gonna give it another whack today, maybe I'll try to apt-get it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnx (Post 149301)
Two things:
1) A lot of people fall into that category I guess. That's why these apps aren't out there for the tablet.
2) Developers weren't born with the ability to program. They had to learn it...Maybe it's time you gave it a shot? :D

Its on my list of stuff todo but its a long list, and as much as I hate to admit it its a bit out of my league for the moment, but Im heading in that direction...

but thanks for the explination as to why there not alot of these apps out there yet, I have found that if a problem is bugging me im not the only one.

bhang

cdmackay 2008-03-14 21:24

Re: Wifi radar for maemo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan (Post 148187)
you have to install a version of kismet that is not "ported" for 2008, although it runs on it...

http://eko.one.pl/maemo/dists/mistra...-1.0_armel.deb

This seems to have been removed; does anyone have an updated link, please?


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