N810 USB OTG Adapter/Dongle
 

The overwhelming success of the N800 USB OTG adapter has led to the next obvious question: what about the N810. So for all of you N810 people who've been asking, here's what I'm proposing.

I'm hoping that my custom cable manufacturer will be able to give me some reasonable options for a direct cable, but the lead times (especially for Micro USB as it's extremely new and hard to find) may be quite long and I have no idea where the cost is going to end up being... so in the meantime here's what I'm thinking: a bundle that includes a 6" Micro-USB to Mini-USB dongle along with one of the regular Mini-USB to Female A adapters. This would allow for the expected automatic Host-mode switching, while also offering the convenience of a short dongle. The other advantage would be that if you have both N800 and N810 you only need one adapter (just plug it into the N800, or plug it into the dongle with the N810).

Cost estimates:
$17.00 Cnd/adapter+dongle package.

Shipping would be the same as the N800 adapters:
$4 Cnd within Canada
$8 Cnd within US
$11 Cnd anywhere internationally.
(the shipping costs would vary slightly if you wanted more than say 2 or three due to increased package size).

What does everyone think? Is it a worthwhile idea, or?

Thanks,
-Rob

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$11 internationally! How much does this thing weigh?
I'm really keen to get a simple solution but $28 for a home-brew cable seems steep. If I could just get hold of a micro plug I could probably make it myself. Is it B or A?

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I'd get a bundle instead of ordering these two readily available parts seperately, but I'd really prefer something like they did for the N800, a one-piece adapter from micro USB to Female A.

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Is it possible to have a cable with Female A and Micro male on the end? Something short like 2-3 inches so its flexible. That would be the ideal adapter :)

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So are you offering this bundle now?

And is there any news from your manufacturer on a single adapter for the N810?

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Sorry, if I am asking stupid question, but wouldn't Female-Female USB A adapter attached to micro USB-USB male cable (shipped with N810) work?

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The N810 cable is readily available: miniUSB type B to standard USB type A (male, you need a gender changer). I bought mine at reichelt.de, because I live in Germany, but I suppose that it can be found in other countries. 4€90 a piece (plus the gender changer: 46 cents) and postage.

I have one and can confirm that it works. The N810 switches automatically in host mode.


For people living in Germany: Reichelt's order number is AK 676-AB

If it really cannot be found in other EU countries (unlikely), I could organize a group order. Reichelt will only send abroad if you buy more than 150€ of stuff. For the US, a simple google search finds it available at digikey: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...name=H11503-ND (they also have longer cables, this one is the shortest). Digikey wants 13$04 for it, however. Probably cheaper sellers can be found.

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Something like this? ;)

*is hoping that's the same micro plug*

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It's not. It says "mini USB", not "micro USB". Mini USB is the plug used on the N800, micro USB is the one used on the N810.

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So I'm still confused. What's the bottom line, i.e. where can I go in North America (preferably Canada even) to get an adapter that will work for the N810? tx

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+1 on that, would be perfect IMO :).

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The easiest solution for you is probably just to use a USB gender changer like this one: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.d...646~r.45363994 ($1.48 including free postage, delivered to your door in Canada in about 2 weeks).

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That looks like an adapter for a full sized usb. Doesn't the N810 have a micro-sd slot? tx

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US or Canadian residents can go to digikey, I gave the link.

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You mean in the link in this post? Quite a bit more expensive than DealExtreme. What's the difference?

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Isn't this what we're looking for? Only $3.99

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Correct - it's a female A to female A adapter (accepts a regular USB plug on both sides). You stick it on the end of your existing cable.

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Ah, of course, I wasn't thinking about it right. That would work.

But what I'm envisioning I guess is a micro B male to a standard A female, so you don't need an extra cable, just plug the device straight into the adapter & the adapter into the NIT.

It looks like they were talking about the same thing in this thread, but weren't able to find anything suitable.

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I am not aware of the offer from "dealextreme", but if it's cheaper go for it. Digikey is expensive.

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I sent a message to retractablecables about getting a female-to-female adapter from them (so I can order from just one source), but they haven't responded yet. It's looking like my best option is to get this adapter from retractablecables & this adapter from dealextreme.

Can someone please confirm for me that I'm on the right track for what I want? Since the N810 price seems to be dropping, I'd like to get these on order so I can be ready to play when my tablet arrives. :)

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I'm using the female A to female A adapter from DealExtreme on the end of my device cable, and it works just fine. To use the other one from retractablecables you'd also need to buy a female A to male A USB extension cable

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I see what you mean if I wanted to plug the NIT into a female usb connector, but if I wanted to, for example, plug a usb stick or the cable of a digital camera straight into my NIT, would I not then need to two adapters I've mentioned?

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haven't read everything in this thread but I installed that USB Connect Software and then purchased a A to micro B and a double female adapter and I was done.

Anyone know how much power a USB keyboard is using? I'm trying to hyper-mile the battery.

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That seems to answer my question :). Thanks

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Just to give you my experience.

I bought the following from cables4computer.com:
ZIP-ADP-C10 USB A to Micro B
ZIP-ADP-C09 USB A to Micro A
ZIP-KIT-NK2 Nokia USB charging kit

I was hoping that the USB A to Micro A would automatically switch to host mode when plugged in. It does not. I don't know if that is because my fault understanding it USB OTG or a faulty product. It does fit into the socket on the N810 but it is clearly not the right plug for that socket. I haven't found a probe tip fine enough to do a conductivity test between the appropriate pins.

The other two items I am quite happy with and work together really well. The ZIP-ADP-C10 combined with a gender changer works fine to read USB flash drives when switched to host mode manually. The Nokia charging kit includes a retractable USB extension cable that, combined with the ZIP-ADP-C10, replaces the cable that came with the N810.

Also with the charger kit comes a tip that does fit the N810 and plugs into the same USB extension cable. The power supply is a nice compact combo unit that either plugs into the wall or a car lighter socket and has a USB socket on it that provides ample power to charge the N810. I tried using just a regular USB socket on a computer and the one I tried did not supply enough currrent and the N810 told me so.

So with what comes with the charging kit, the ZIP-ADP-C10, and a USB Female to Female gender changer (which you can easily find ... I got mine at The Source by Circuit City for under $10), I have a compact collection of cabling that does data transfer as a host (with the USB mode switching software) and as a client and also provides a means of charging from a normal power outlet or in the car.

The only problems I had with cables4computer.com was my order was delayed because of some crazy process where I had to call them to verify my address ... the same address that I typed into the online form and they echoed back to me in a order verification email ... and they gouged me on shipping. Perhaps both issues was due to it being an international order ... I don't know.

OK ... that was all longer than I expected but I hope that it helps someone.

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That helps me quite a bit. Now I know that if I get a ZIP-ADP-C10, a ZIP-KIT-NK2 & source a female-to-female gender changer I'll be good to go to! :)

Thanks Muchly

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That's as close as I've seen to what many of us are looking for.

I don't know whether to get this with an F-F adapter or wait for the perfect adapter to appear: micro USB male to USB A female. The idea is to have something small and convenient to make UBS keys a viable type of supplemental storage.

If I have to use the included cable and an F-F adapter I doubt I'll carry it around most the time.

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It's not as bad as it sounds. the micro USB that I have is a retractable unit so it takes up very little space. I just leave the FF converter connected. No biggie in practice. The keyboard on the other hand......

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I use it as a holder for my charging tip and micro B tip. So the two tips connected by the gender changer, the extension cable and the charger make for a compact setup that's quite flexible.

I also bought a WD Passport USB Drive ( http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=317 ) and the neoprene case that it came in fits the N810 (and I would guess the N800) quite nicely with room to stuff the tips/gender changer along one edge. If you really squeeze and stretch the neoprene, you can fit both the drive and the N810 in the case. Here is a link to the picture of the case http://www.con-ads.com/images/20049_...d3RhqNcXC7.jpg

Still need to find an elegant solution to power the drive for the N810. As it is, some computer USB ports don't have enough juice ... never mind the N810. They supposedly sell a power injector separately specifically for the drive but it is a cumbersome beast with its own transformer. I am just looking for a simple Y cable with the power lines connected that would integrate nicely with my charger.