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Navi 2008-02-18 03:18

Re: Its time for MMC boot to have a forum of itself
 
MMC booting doesn't need it's own forum, subforum, subsubforum, etc. At most, one stickied thread with detailed step-by-step instructions will suffice.

Digging through the forum's search isn't that hard. The problem is that people don't search at all. Google gives quality hits on this matter linking to pages with detailed instructions.

How about a forum on "how to search effectively" instead?

new_2_linux 2008-02-18 03:34

Re: Its time for MMC boot to have a forum of itself
 
I spent a lot of times searching. I've explored on it for over 2 weeks, with about an average of 2 hours each night. Those are the websites I found, as far as booting and stuff like that. But just so many confusions that I can't seem to find all the answers together and understand better how the system works. It took me awhile to learn about the repository and such. I have to admit, I am very slow trying to adapt this specific new system. I basically almost gave up until I emailed bunanson for help. I never expected bunanson to respond back. But he really did and was extremely generous to this newb(me). I was actually planning to ebay this n800 because of my lack of intelligence of operating this n800 to boot on a 16gb SDHC. Well he sure did bring me hopes back. I appreciate it and I also appreciate you for telling me that I should search. Regardless helpful or not, you all put time into responding to this problem that I am facing, I thank each and every one of you.

bunanson 2008-02-18 03:43

Re: Its time for MMC boot to have a forum of itself
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by new_2_linux (Post 143884)
Is there a procedure there? Sorry I clicked on it and it only shows something about installing maemo SDK. By the way, is there anything else I should say no to besides the step where you install fanoush? Before finding about the panasonic, I have tried to format it using windows by right clicking on the icon of the drive and format. I had also tried to format it by inserting it into the cannon S5 to low-level format it as well because it has that option. Could that affect it? I apologize for asking too many questions in one post, I will try to ask less. But I don't want to make too many posts. Anyway if you don't mind I have added you to my buddy list on AIM, maybe we could chat there. Thanks!

Please do not have to find the Panasonic, I gave it to you in the previous post, (here again, http://panasonic.jp/support/global/c...formatter.html) just click it to open a web page, dl the software, install it (talks only 10 second, a very small program), stuck in your SD card, and run any option but the quickformat, erase on or off makes NO difference. And take the SD card out and put in the tablet, and now, you do not have to redo the wget/dl/chmod +x all these BS, just run the ./nupgrade.sh 0-4 or the automatic one, the newer script, you are home!
Please use the panasonic one, I am NOT familiar with other formatter and do not want to investigate another variable.

Oh, I never meant to read that you are asking too many Qs. No, that is no what I meant. Feel free to ask as many as you want to. Oh, yes, add my AIM to your buddy list, we can then chat.... keep on trying, it will work.


bun


bun

new_2_linux 2008-02-18 03:51

Re: Its time for MMC boot to have a forum of itself
 
Unfortunately you are not on. I am on right now. However I don't mind staying up all night if I must, but if it's getting late or if you are tired, you should go get some sleep. I definitely don't want to make you struggle as this is my problem so you should do it out of your available time and not squeeze in. Thanks! We could definitely discuss it a lot better on AIM. I've added you, talk to you when you are on.

ghoonk 2008-02-18 10:17

Re: Its time for MMC boot to have a forum of itself
 
Seriously, guys, what we need is an idiot-proof (me) step-by-step no-possibility-of-getting-it-wrong procedure to boot from internal MMC.

I have an Adata card and never realised it needed the Panasonic low-level formatting until now :(

fanoush 2008-02-18 11:12

Re: Its time for MMC boot to have a forum of itself
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ghoonk (Post 143999)
Swhat we need is an idiot-proof (me) step-by-step no-possibility-of-getting-it-wrong procedure to boot from internal MMC.

There is no such thing. 'Idiots' are very clever at breaking stuff and getting lost. No chance to outsmart them in this area :-) Also most problems are caused by making typos or not following guides properly so such guide won't fix it.

IMO the solution is to make is as automatic as possible - http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=8631

fanoush 2008-02-18 11:22

Re: Its time for MMC boot to have a forum of itself
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 140290)
I think I am a veteran of MMC boot

Yeah, no single person created more threads on this topic than you ;-) But don't get me wrong, we may differ in opinions on how many threads are needed to create but you are still doing great job by helping out newbies, thanks :-)

As for new forum - Well, personally I click 'new posts' or just use search, I never browse various subforums by its name, there is too many of them already (= more than one :-) and this IMO adds to the confusion. Where you should put topic about troubleshooting something with N810? 'Troubleshooting' 'N810' or 'OS2008'? Also sadly from time to time some poor soul gets an idea the best thing is to post same thing to all of them :-)

But still I see your point. It could be still useful to some people but only if someone would go over all old threads related to this and move it to this new 'mmc boot' forum. Which is IMO next to impossible and not worth the effort.

bunanson 2008-02-18 13:45

Re: Its time for MMC boot to have a forum of itself
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fanoush (Post 144021)
Yeah, no single person created more threads on this topic than you ;-) But don't get me wrong, we may differ in opinions on how many threads are needed to create but you are still doing great job by helping out newbies, thanks :-)

As for new forum - Well, personally I click 'new posts' or just use search, I never browse various subforums by its name, there is too many of them already (= more than one :-) and this IMO adds to the confusion. Where you should put topic about troubleshooting something with N810? 'Troubleshooting' 'N810' or 'OS2008'? Also sadly from time to time some poor soul gets an idea the best thing is to post same thing to all of them :-)

But still I see your point. It could be still useful to some people but only if someone would go over all old threads related to this and move it to this new 'mmc boot' forum. Which is IMO next to impossible and not worth the effort.


Well, when the master speaks out, I listen. I drop the idea. I think the present situuation is not as CRITICAL as I thought to be, it is managable, and, in particular, somebody find the energy to gather all info is "not worth the effort". Thanks.

bun

fanoush 2008-02-18 15:24

Re: Its time for MMC boot to have a forum of itself
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 144060)
Well, when the master speaks out, I listen. I drop the idea.

Well in this case I'm not best person to listen to and to shoot this idea down :-)

GeneralAntilles 2008-02-18 15:41

Re: Its time for MMC boot to have a forum of itself
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Navi (Post 143887)
How about a forum on "how to search effectively" instead?

Trying to explain the intricacies of Google-fu to a newbie is like trying to explain nuclear fission to a turtle--it simply can't be done.

Google-fu must be earned through hard work and perseverance. :p


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