Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

e-motion :
Hi, the log always have more explanation.. can you send it?

It seems that any atempt to "unninstall" the failed install goes wrong, because it actually failed install because apt-get (or the engine of the application install ) crashes.

Again, when we do our tests (with clean devices, and with devices with applications) it doesn't happen so we really need the biggest amount of info to help.

So, did you try doing the fulll (command line) unninstall / install ?

If not, please tell us the message in the log on application installer
and the result of running canola from x-term!

BR

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

how do i get the log ? I'm a total newbie when it comes to Linux stuff.

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

not, it's not related to linux...
go to application manager, hit the menu (the icon beside the window title) there's a "Tools" menu... then a "log" item.

But probably you're facing the common dependency problem. I will ask gustavo for the application so you can clean up without needing to resort to command line.

Br

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

I wish it would say more than "unable to install"... :confused:

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Aw goddamn, the "random song bug" is freakin back x(( I'm trying to figure out dependencies of it's appearing (

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Where's the log located once you save it ? Damn, the ITT is not for people that want something easy to use.

edit: never mind, I was trying the hard way

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

here's the log:

hildon-application-manager 2.0.2
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-gtk2.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-gobject.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-terra.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-numeric.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-osso.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-downloadmanager.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-dbus.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-hildon.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package libreadline4.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-cairo.
-----
Installing canola2 2.0.0~beta3-maemo1
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-gtk2.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-gobject.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-terra.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-numeric.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-osso.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-downloadmanager.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-dbus.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-hildon.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package libreadline4.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-cairo.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-gtk2.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-gobject.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-terra.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-numeric.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-osso.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-downloadmanager.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-dbus.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-hildon.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package libreadline4.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-cairo.
Selecting previously deselected package python2.5-dispatcher.
(Reading database ... 19254 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking python2.5-dispatcher (from .../python2.5-dispatcher_0.1.0-maemo.1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package python2.5-feedparser.
Unpacking python2.5-feedparser (from .../python2.5-feedparser_4.1-1osso1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package canola2.
Unpacking canola2 (from .../canola2_2.0.0~beta3-maemo1_all.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of python2.5-dispatcher:
python2.5-dispatcher depends on python2.5 (>= 2.5.1-1osso2); however:
Package python2.5 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing python2.5-dispatcher (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of python2.5-feedparser:
python2.5-feedparser depends on python2.5 (>= 2.5.1-1osso2); however:
Package python2.5 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing python2.5-feedparser (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of canola2:
canola2 depends on python2.5-dispatcher; however:
Package python2.5-dispatcher is not configured yet.
canola2 depends on python2.5-feedparser; however:
Package python2.5-feedparser is not configured yet.
canola2 depends on python2.5-terra (>= 0.1.2); however:
Package python2.5-terra is not configured yet.
canola2 depends on python2.5-downloadmanager (>= 0.2.1); however:
Package python2.5-downloadmanager is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing canola2 (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
python2.5-dispatcher
python2.5-feedparser
canola2
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

@wazd : if possible try posting how to reproduce it in the garage page for canola

@e-motion : yeah, you hit the spot. You have 3 options (last one I don't recommend)

1) trying doing what is said in some post here in ITT about unninstall and install using the terminal. (it's hard for people that is not technically savvy )

2) wait a little bit until we do more tests with the "fix" application made by gustavo.. that fix this problem...

3) flash the device, and the first thing.. install canola (this will for sure work) but we don't want you to loose your settings.

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

I'll take option 2) but I'm going to have withdrawals ;)

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Yeah, Etrunko is finishing a easy to use package so you can use without having to know more technical stuff.

I think it will also help other people

Thanks for reporting the errors..

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

First off...getting Canola 2 Beta 3 to even allow you to point the medial library to certain folders is a TOTAL pain. Looks like you have to know where the super secret points on the buttons are to click to open media and to add the checkmark to match that specific media. They have the click point about 2 pixels wide, in the lower right hand "corner" of the eye button (yes ...its a circle and has no "corner"....I know), or the lower right hand corner pixel of the folder icon.
Photo's FINALLY work....but took me longer to point to the media library on the cards, AND make the changes stick (issue # 2), than to actually feel inspired to Oooh and Ahhh at the photo's....more like Cripes and Doh !
I'll call this Alpha 3....painful

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Hi... just a little feedback about video selection and management on Canola Beta 3.

The default behavior seems to be a vertical list, complete with video thumbs (assuming you also installed Canola tuning), and it might be nice if the management/display of videos were similar to the music browsing functionality.

For example... when you are browsing through albums in your music collection, you may see a page with a fairly complete list of album covers (first link)... or in the context of a particular album, you always a previous/next album cover (second link), and the navigation is fairly straightforward.

See linked images...

http://spacepod.net/gallery/albums/n...5_49.sized.png

and

http://spacepod.net/gallery/albums/n...4_08.sized.png

whereas when you are browsing your video collection... if you have more than four video thumbnails... you don't see anything beyond four thumbnails and titles, and 'swiping' to scroll up or down isn't necessarily jumping to obvious previous or next videos in the list.

http://spacepod.net/gallery/albums/n...7_48.sized.png

Hopefully my description of the behavior is clear... and that it would be nice to have the previous/next functionality in the video thumbnails list... in a manner that is similar to the music/album browsing.

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

why is it now , when im playing my mp3's when i have a long song title , it scrolls and never comes back??

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Hi Munky,

Can you tell us the name (size in letters that is giving problem )? we didn't face that.. so help us reproduce.

It's very important that people wanting help / suggesting things understand that it doesn't help just to say " why this.." and try to detail the happening as much as possible.

BR

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

well , any song title that has to scroll is what does it. example of what happens: i select "call me when you're sober" by evanescence to play, goes to now playing , song title scrolls once then never comes back , so all that is displayed is artist and album title.

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Does artist and album scroll? It doesn't seem to scroll for "Super Smash Brothers Brawl OST"

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Strange, it should come back. It's "set" to: if name is bigger than space, scroll it, and after one loop, stop.
Artist and album do not scroll. All 3 info scrolling at the same time would be more a mess than something useful.

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

That's what he's describing above.
He most likely doesn't have metadata tags, so the name is the filename, and artist/album are empty. Correct? ;)

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Hi Shack, sorry but canola shouldn't be working like that. The hit area is actually bigger then the ball, (takes a whole square there). We have strict guidelines on how small a button should be, and if needed we increase it.

So, it seems a) either your screen is not calibrated, or b) you have a problematic install.

but the point is: media configuration will be done by a wizard because we really think is pain.

But... FIRST OFF ..using the same irony and sarcasm you are using:
How in earth do you really think it works this way and this is not a bug? Do you think we are crazy?
"Let's put a hit area here.. 2 pixels wide EHEHEH let's scr*** the user lol"

So please, instead of gratuitous irony, report the error, that we will fix if it's a canola mistake, and help if it's not.

Thanks for the irony-loaded comment / bug report even with that. it will be taken into account.

BR

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Hi slvr32: I think i understood you correctly, and it would be nice if we could make sure people have video thumbnails. We do want to integrate it but it only happens today if you have mplayer. Of course the same with music.

The idea is nice, and I will for sure put into consideration once we advance with the application, I think this can be added after the final release!

BR

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Hi Munky, can you test something : touch on the title? it should scroll again...

I think it's a bug, we will investigate more.. but tell me what happens if you touch the name area again. (it should scroll again)

a) stupid question : does de song has a lot of spaces in the beginnign of tag for song name?

Br

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Like e-motion, I am also getting "Unable to install". Do I also need to wait for the "fix" by gustavo? My log is as follows:

hildon-application-manager 2.0.2
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package libedbus0.
-----
Installing canola2 2.0.0~beta3-maemo1
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package libedbus0.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package libedbus0.
(Reading database ... 18740 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libedje0 0.5.0.041-maemo.2 (using .../libedje0_0.5.0.042-maemo1_armel.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libedje0 ...
dpkg-deb (subprocess): error in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in copy: Input/output error
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2
dpkg: error processing /media/mmc2/.apt-archive-cache/libedje0_0.5.0.042-maemo1_armel.deb (--unpack):
short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/libedje.so.0.5.0')
Preparing to replace liblightmediascanner0 0.1.0-maemo.3 (using .../liblightmediascanner0_0.1.3-maemo1_armel.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement liblightmediascanner0 ...
dpkg-deb (subprocess): error in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in copy: Input/output error
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault.
apt-worker: Running 'dpkg --configure dpkg' to clean up the journal.
dpkg: error processing dpkg (--configure):
package dpkg is already installed and configured
Errors were encountered while processing:
dpkg

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

it does not scroll again if i touch it , and no , there arent any spaces in the tag

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Nightstorm :

If you really don't fell confortable to do the manual fix that is listed in several threads here.... it would better to wait for the fix. Because it runs like root user is not trivial to make sure everything is ok, but I think the guys will quickly deploy the installation

BR

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Edoardo new to internet tablet. N810 great product you can see the future now. installed software update and canola beta 2. updated to canola beta 3 not able to install. studied the forum to figure out the solution. managed to get root access to the machine via ssh. tried to uninstall via terminal, but after apt-get -f remove canola2 I get the following dependency error message. it is requesting to reinstall libgoffice-06-common and not able to find the file to install.

any clue on what can i do. Incidentally I cannot have kagu and ukmp to start up either. so no media player for me.

let me know thanks

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

maometto : I have forwaded your problem to some of the guys in the team that deals with the dependencies.. they will be able to help you more!

Br

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

thanks. i will wait for your reply on this in the forum

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Hi Again maometto

In short translation he belives that you installed gnumeric, and then you disabled ou you don't have the maemo extras-devel repositories, thus causing the errors.

So he asked you to send to us the list of repositories you currently have. Bare in mind that sometimes you can also have a repository, but one " / " wrong can make it unusable

BR

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

you are totally right i installed gnumeric and uninstalled. is the only other program i could not install beside canola2 beta 3. inwill remove it, and install the extras-devel repositories. shal i then try again to install canola. here is the log of the gnumeri install

hildon-application-manager 2.0.2
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package lightmediascanner0-jpeg.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-terra.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package liblightmediascanner0.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package libgoffice-0-6-common.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-bluez.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package libgsf-1-114.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package lightmediascanner0-id3lib.
-----
Installing gnumeric 1.8.0-1chinook5
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package lightmediascanner0-jpeg.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-terra.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package liblightmediascanner0.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package libgoffice-0-6-common.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-bluez.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package libgsf-1-114.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package lightmediascanner0-id3lib.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package lightmediascanner0-jpeg.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-terra.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package liblightmediascanner0.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package libgoffice-0-6-common.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package python2.5-bluez.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package libgsf-1-114.
apt-worker: Not handling unrelated package lightmediascanner0-id3lib.
(Reading database ...
dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `python2.5-bluez' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.

dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `lightmediascanner0-jpeg' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.

dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `libgoffice-0-6-common' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.

dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `lightmediascanner0-id3lib' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
20846 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libpcre3 (from .../libpcre3_6.7-1osso1_armel.deb) ...
Unpacking libart-2.0-2 (from .../libart-2.0-2_2.3.17-1chinook1_armel.deb) ...
Unpacking libgoffice-0-6 (from .../libgoffice-0-6_0.6.1-1chinook1_armel.deb) ...
Unpacking gnumeric (from .../gnumeric_1.8.0-1chinook5_armel.deb) ...
Setting up libpcre3 (6.7-1osso1) ...

Setting up libart-2.0-2 (2.3.17-1chinook1) ...

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libgoffice-0-6:
libgoffice-0-6 depends on libgsf-1-114 (>= 1.14.7); however:
Package libgsf-1-114 is not configured yet.
libgoffice-0-6 depends on libgoffice-0-6-common (>= 0.6.1-1chinook1); however:
Package libgoffice-0-6-common is not installed.
dpkg: error processing libgoffice-0-6 (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gnumeric:
gnumeric depends on libgoffice-0-6 (>= 0.6.1); however:
Package libgoffice-0-6 is not configured yet.
gnumeric depends on libgsf-1-114 (>= 1.14.7); however:
Package libgsf-1-114 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing gnumeric (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
libgoffice-0-6
gnumeric
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

The Canola2 Beta3 installation went OK, and the music player works fine. However, none of my internet radio stations work. Here is a URL example: http://208.122.59.30:7156

This plays in the built in media player, and also mediabox (version .94). The stream is from Shoutcast.com (sky.fm New Age station - no comments please about it being New Age music!). When I attempt to enter this into Canola, it comes back and says invalid URL.

If I follow the directions referenced on the Canola website for internet radio and "right click on the "tune in" button on shoutcast to copy the link, I get this link to paste into Canola (http://shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-...e=filename.pls)

Canola accepts this and adds "Shoutcast.com (4977) to my list of stations, but always shows "list is empty" when I attempt to play it.

How am I going to survive without listening to Yani??

Thanks for your work and time.

Howard

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Just wanted to let you know that I have the most current version of the Canola 2 beta on my 770 Gregale. When it works, I love it!
However, there have been numerous occasions when it locks up my unit requiring either a hard button shutdown or removal of the battery. I guess it is just wearing the memory out!

Neil

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

nspeer : we are aware of that. Unfortunately as we have been saying here, the 770 version is almost a miracle =) The fact is that some of the most important components for Canola, like the Dbus (the component that helps canola 'talk' to other components), are very very old in the 2006. Imagine that they were improved in 2007 and vastly improved in 2008, so it is really almost a miracle that it's still "working"

So, in the end I cannot commit myself or the team to improve the 770 version more that we already did. I did asked to check if there was a way to speed up the first video playback (quite quite quite slow) and some other details but if they are bugs / lack of feature on the components we depend on, that we can't do much...

and we do a lot of "memory consumption" tests, and in the 2008 we didn't find a leak like you're saying... and I think the problem must be also (speaking from our experience in the canola1) that some other component is dieing, and thus locks the device.

There's a file that shows you why it froze last time.

BR

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Hi Howardcb : we will take a look, the .pls link should work, and if it is not working, then it's a bug.

did you try these ones and also failed:

http://www.sky.fm/mp3/newage.pls

We will look deeper!

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Just installed latest Canola on N800/OS2008 yesterday. Very impressive but no sound when playing the N810 video. Will try some other vids later.

Edit: also how do I get canola to see upnp server?

Edit2: sound is ok on same vid on N810

PS: Just trawling this whole thread. Will recheck the N800 problem from the cmd line and report any errors later.

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Helo muki,

Couple of question (sorry if they seems dumb)

a. Did you checked the master volume in the tablet?
( canola cannot sets the master volume device, and if the volume is zero or sometimes if the volume in the media player is zero this can influentiate canola) so make sure both volumes are in maximum

b. Did you reboot the system (without being plugged on power) before installing ( just to make sure all the services are started correctly) if it was first time installing canola... theres no need to do so.

UPNP : is already in final testing, it's a third party pluggin that we are adappting to canola, we plan to release in the next big, feature based update

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Thanks for the response. I added the above link to Canola, and the program accepted it and listed it as "sky.fm". However, it just shows "no items found" when I try to play the station.

Howard

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

I tried it here with our beta4 version that is in the works, and it added without problems and it shows one item when I enter the feed.

The internet radio support was rewritten since beta3, so please tell me if works when the new release is out.

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Hi Marcelo,

a. I did check volume levels and again after your post because I do occasionally have my "dumb" moments :D

b. Nope, I did not reboot before installation but this is the first Canola installed on my N800. Have rebooted now but still no vid sound (songs play ok). Running from terminal the only feedback from canola is "[]" (that's it I swear).

Edit: forgot to mention that sound is ok when played via Media Player.

UPNP: Good to hear, looking forward to it. Would be nice to have an all-in-one solution.

On another note, if I read some of the previous posts correctly it has been requested to be able to select directories. I understand that this has implications for GUI design but I would settle for an interim/ alternative solution: restrict canola to only scanning directories containing ".canola" (empty file) or simply a user editable text file stating specific directories to scan?

PS: I am online for the next hour so if you want to get to the bottom of the vid sound problem let me know what I can do to help, otherwise it may be ~3 wks before I am back.

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

Thank you for Canola. It really is a great piece of software.

Is there a way to cut a podcast feed from the web browser into Canola? I'm used to holding down the stylus until a context menu comes up and I can paste from there.

Re: Canola2 Beta3 Feedback Thread
 

There will be soon ;-) We are working on it! Good to hear that you enjoy our software!