Browser takes 22Mb RAM???
 

Whitout any open url:confused:
Is that normal?

Re: Browser takes 22Mb RAM???
 

ha! that's nothing! here's the output from OS X's Activity Monitor for firefox:

23450 Firefox n00b 2.90 11 45.16 MB 250.54 MB

(first RAM footprint is physical, second is virtual)

:-)

p.s. has anyone ported the Dillo browser?

Re: Browser takes 22Mb RAM???
 

No one said Mozilla was a lightweight... I typically see my MicroB around 30-40 MB with a couple windows open. Nothing to get alarmed at I don't think. I'm typically more concerned with things sucking up the processor time.

Re: Browser takes 22Mb RAM???
 

I would gladly accept that if the browser wasn't so incredibly slow. It takes forever for pages to load (I have to wait for everything to load before I can scroll!) and then even scrolling seems to be too much for the tablet to handle (OS2008 on N800). I usually tap the scroll bar to get it to kinda page down, and every time I do that I end up having to wait like 20 seconds. I don't know what's going on with it but it's garbage. What's the point in having an internet tablet if one of the things you can't do well is browse the internet?

Re: Browser takes 22Mb RAM???
 

I have almost lost hope with Nokia giving us back Opera. But the more people complain about the MicroB crap on something marketed as an Internet Tablet, the better.

Re: Browser takes 22Mb RAM???
 

I wish we had a choice.. Some port dillo quick! :p

Re: Browser takes 22Mb RAM???
 

Arnim ported Links2. It's not a pretty port, but nevertheless port it is.

Re: Browser takes 22Mb RAM???
 

What is wrong with 22MB? There is a lot of code to process for html/xhtml/css/javascript/imaging/plugins/etc.... I wish my desktop was even close to that :D

While there are certainly some Opera fans around here, MicroB in OS2008 is FAR from crap. Maybe instead of blanket statements, people could post examples of sites that MicroB performs poorly on (and Opera performed well) to help the devs improve it.

My guess is that 9 times out of 10 it's a bloated, JS heavy, or Flash laden site that makes the tablet sigh. Realize Opera had and advantage with such sites as it didn't try to understand some of the more advanced JS functionailty, rendering some sites useless.

As for speed, that's the tradeoff. It's certainly improved since the MicroB beta in 2007. If you don't care about JS and Flash, just disable them.

Re: Browser takes 22Mb RAM???
 

Hum didn't see links2 was already ported. Waste of time... I also did a port, as clean as debian x86 one.

Using memstat, you can have more details:
Here are some parts of the SharedMemory only used by the browser:

28k: /usr/share/locale/fr_FR/LC_MESSAGES/osso-browser-ui.mo 1964
776k: /usr/lib/microb-engine/libmozjs.so 1964
228k: /usr/lib/microb-engine/libnspr4.so 1964
424k: /usr/lib/microb-engine/libnss3.so 1964
40k: /usr/lib/microb-engine/libplc4.so 1964
36k: /usr/lib/microb-engine/libplds4.so 1964
152k: /usr/lib/microb-engine/libsmime3.so 1964
316k: /usr/lib/microb-engine/libsoftokn3.so 1964
168k: /usr/lib/microb-engine/libssl3.so 1964
36k: /usr/lib/microb-engine/libxpcom.so 1964
9912k: /usr/lib/microb-engine/libxul.so 1964
5428k: /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so 1964

Remove flash?

xul?

Re: Browser takes 22Mb RAM???
 

MicroB does a good job for me 99% of the time, but there are times I would like a lightweight browser like Dillo, which worked well on the ol' Zaurus SL5500. Thanks also for the link to Links2, I'd been looking for that...

Re: Browser takes 22Mb RAM???
 

I'm glad my desktop isn't _that_ close to that, as my desktop uses half of that.

As far as the webkit fan(s) is concerned, Gecko itself is horrible. The MicroB developers are doing nothing wrong themselves as the blame is solely on Mozilla/Netcape's.

For tradeoff, webkit is still a ways from reaching the stable mark (stable as in debian stable). It being faster, having a lower memory footprint, and higher standards makes it the grand winner. All we need now is a competent developer to whip up a browser with webkit.

And disabling JS/Flash in MicroB? That'll break site's compatibility. You might as well go with Opera for better compatibility.