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rdcinhou 2008-02-17 22:05

Suggestions for the next OS release
 
Some suggestion for improvement in the next release of the OS:

1. In File Manager--require a double-tap to open files. At present a single-tap opens them. This makes file management a pain in that you can't simply select a file for moving, copying or deletion--the file often opens and you have to wait and close the opened application in order to get back to the file manager.

2. Add some sort of standard identifying information to the start-up AND the unlock screen. Since these devices all look alike, if someone picks up your machine and it is locked, how are they going to know how to return it to you?

3. On system boot, have at least an hour-glass or something to let you know that the OS is still busy and you need to wait before trying any commands. It is bothersome to try and select something and the command closes prematurely. A little "Please wait..." or "Processing..." would be nice.

4. OS command confirmations (after tapping on OK buttons and the like) should have an immediate visual confirmation that something is being done. Many OS operations have significant delays and some even leave a white area where the dialog window was. Surely not the way a ready-for-public-consumption IT appliance shoud behave.

5. Add a REFRESH function to file manager...changes to remote shared directories are not seen until you close and reopen file manager.

Everyone please add your own OS improvement suggestions:

instigator 2008-02-17 22:13

Re: Suggestions for the next OS release
 
Bluetooth A2DP stereo headphone profile is number one on my list.

cyberbillp 2008-02-18 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by instigator (Post 143797)
Bluetooth A2DP stereo headphone profile is number one on my list.


Ditto.

Followed by accelerated graphic drivers, any type of mouse, and if I can dream, OpenGL.

munky261 2008-02-18 17:47

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i want A2DP as well as AVRCP bt profiles to be supported

amigokin 2008-02-18 17:51

Re: Suggestions for the next OS release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rdcinhou (Post 143792)
Some suggestion for improvement in the next release of the OS:

1. In File Manager--require a double-tap to open files. At present a single-tap opens them. This makes file management a pain in that you can't simply select a file for moving, copying or deletion--the file often opens and you have to wait and close the opened application in order to get back to the file manager.

Oh, Lord! Please!

jackass124 2008-02-18 18:08

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more video codecs supported, A2DP, better flash support, replace current Email client with something that works well like Modest or something...

rscasas 2008-02-18 18:17

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I think directional keys in the virtual keyboard can be very useful in many cases

barqer 2008-02-18 18:20

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Bluetooth PAN support would be great

Benson 2008-02-18 19:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rscasas (Post 144196)
I think directional keys in the virtual keyboard can be very useful in many cases

Why? you already have the d-pad.

Though it could be helpful if the d-pad sent different keycodes than the arrow keys on a BT keyboard, and in that case the virtual keyboard could send the standard keycodes. Then the d-pad could be used for, e.g., scrolling.

bready 2008-02-18 19:53

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Open authentication for WEP encryption would be great.. One of the big reasons why I bought the IT was to use it at work and I can't because the N800 does not support it!

BReady

whc 2008-02-18 20:49

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1. Better scrool funktion with the d-pad, like on S60 devices would be pefect for me.
2. +3 on A2DP support.
3. Maybe some kind of power controll software where you can set cpu speed and brightness and have several settings for maximum power and for maximum battery, and maybe more advanced where it can auto set the speed and brightness according to battery power, like on a pc?

rscasas 2008-02-18 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 144255)
Why? you already have the d-pad.

Though it could be helpful if the d-pad sent different keycodes than the arrow keys on a BT keyboard, and in that case the virtual keyboard could send the standard keycodes. Then the d-pad could be used for, e.g., scrolling.

Thanks Benson, I don't know where my mind is.

whc 2008-02-19 01:59

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One more thing it would be nice if it was possible to sync the bookmarks and contacts with pc suite, like on n-series smartphones, maybe also a sync software on the device to syng directly with a s60 device.

seiichiro0185 2008-02-19 18:56

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an option to lock the homescreen would be really nice, I keep constantly moving the applets around on accident...

acevid 2008-02-19 19:17

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H.323 Video Conferencing client.

H.323 is the most widely used protocol for video conferencing.

See- Polycom, Tandberg, Sony, Vtel, Aethra

Most businesses and edu's use H.323 for video conferencing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.323

http://www.openh323.org

http://www.h323plus.org

taimishu23 2008-07-21 01:11

Re: Suggestions for the next OS release
 
Sorry, revived an old thread instead of starting a new one....

Some of my suggestions for the next OS release

1. Running applications in the background (load webpages, load email, error messages should just use a blinking icon to show that they’re there, not to kick off the active page)

2. A more streamlined (i.e. faster) web-browser that retains flash support. MicroB, as micro as it is, is still painfully slow on some websites, even with adblock and flashblock addons enabled.

3. Touch keyboard needs to have buttons that are more separated from each other (a la iPhone), making it less likely to press two keys or press the wrong key

4. Allow the user to delete or re-add applications to the menu (some of that built-in crap needs to go…permanently…)

5. Allow the user to delete the other shortcut web and communication buttons on the desktop

6. Handwriting recognition needs to be sped up. I’d like to write more often, but the slow speed prevents me from doing it. I’d also wish it would wait till I pressed space or a punctuation key before turning my handwriting into a word.

7. D-pad needs to be configured to actually scroll on a webpage instead of just moving a cursor down the webpages text and links (that's what happens on my OS2008 N800 at least).

8. Movable error messages and other popup prompts. It's hard to say yes or no when you can't see exactly what the message refers to sometimes.


Also, does anyone know how we can get Nokia to listen in on these suggestions?

GeneralAntilles 2008-07-21 01:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taimishu23 (Post 205292)
1. Running applications in the background (load webpages, load email, error messages should just use a blinking icon to show that they’re there, not to kick off the active page)

I'm sorry, what? Applications work perfectly fine in the background right now. . . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by taimishu23 (Post 205292)
2. A more streamlined (i.e. faster) web-browser that retains flash support. MicroB, as micro as it is, is still painfully slow on some websites, even with adblock and flashblock addons enabled.

Wait for Fremantle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by taimishu23 (Post 205292)
3. Touch keyboard needs to have buttons that are more separated from each other (a la iPhone), making it less likely to press two keys or press the wrong key

Space isn't unlimited, button spacing means smaller buttons, means harder to hit buttons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by taimishu23 (Post 205292)
4. Allow the user to delete or re-add applications to the menu (some of that built-in crap needs to go…permanently…)

You can do this just fine now. . . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by taimishu23 (Post 205292)
5. Allow the user to delete the other shortcut web and communication buttons on the desktop

You can do this just fine now. . . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by taimishu23 (Post 205292)
6. Handwriting recognition needs to be sped up. I’d like to write more often, but the slow speed prevents me from doing it. I’d also wish it would wait till I pressed space or a punctuation key before turning my handwriting into a word.

The current HRW needs to die in a fire, it's beyond useless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by taimishu23 (Post 205292)
7. D-pad needs to be configured to actually scroll on a webpage instead of just moving a cursor down the webpages text and links (that's what happens on my OS2008 N800 at least).

You can already do this. . . .

http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/m...updown-0.1.deb

Quote:

Originally Posted by taimishu23 (Post 205292)
8. Movable error messages and other popup prompts. It's hard to say yes or no when you can't see exactly what the message refers to sometimes.

Tap the message box to make it invisible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by taimishu23 (Post 205292)
Also, does anyone know how we can get Nokia to listen in on these suggestions?

Well, these are all either already implemented or have feature requests in Bugzilla. So. . . .

Thesandlord 2008-07-21 02:17

Re: Suggestions for the next OS release
 
I think all the "hacks" that people here have worked so hard on should be included. To name a few:

Screen Rotation
A2DP
Bluetooth PAN
OGG support (built in)
etc....

Aside from that, a super smooth GUI and open source default apps. Oh, and faster everything. :D

taimishu23 2008-07-21 02:35

Re: Suggestions for the next OS release
 
General Antilles,

It may just be some of the sites I'm browsing, but when I open links in new windows and the link finishes loading, it jumps the browser to the new link even after I've switched back to the main page to continue reading whatever is was there.

Could you please direct me to the threads/sites explaining how to manipulate the menu and desktop? It would be greatly appreciated!

I guess some of the things I requested were things I was hoping would be built-in on the next iteration, instead of add-ons or workarounds (for example screen rotation).

Thanks for all the answers.

JeffLuszcz 2008-07-21 03:39

Re: Suggestions for the next OS release
 
Some desires for me:

MicroB:

The ability to open a web page in a new window in the Background instead of in front

Acceleration based scrolling ala Safari on the iPhone

OS:

Better (or more obvious) power management or sleep. My tablet ends up dead more often than I expect it to. For example, my old palm let me down unexpectedly a couple times a year. My tablet lets me down a couple times a month.

Smaller font for the application start menu or better layout, ala Personal Menu

Python and Java built into the os so devs can depend on them to be in place

Application Manager:
Better repository management, I have no clue which ones I should or should have, or where a program is coming from

Ability to jump to application in list by typing the first letter. e.g. pressing L brings you to the first application starting with L in the list

Ratings visible in the application manager, e.g. 5 stars for numpty physics and ability to sort by popularity or rating.

mscdex 2008-07-21 05:48

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I think the power management will improve once the s2ram (suspend-to-ram) project works without a hitch.

JustNick 2008-07-21 07:38

Re: Suggestions for the next OS release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seiichiro0185 (Post 144799)
an option to lock the homescreen would be really nice, I keep constantly moving the applets around on accident...

So I'm not the only one... :D

I find it hard to believe that there isn't a way to lock the homescreen (in fact I never asked before, thinking I was missing the right menu&option to do it...), specially for the fact that the homescreen applets have risen in number recently and many of them are quite usefull (Omweather and GPE Summary for example), so once arranged it whould be wise to keep them in a fixed position (my nightmare is scrolling the rss feed reader, every once in a while I move it by mistake :mad: )

Karel Jansens 2008-07-21 10:22

Re: Suggestions for the next OS release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JustNick (Post 205355)
So I'm not the only one... :D

I find it hard to believe that there isn't a way to lock the homescreen (in fact I never asked before, thinking I was missing the right menu&option to do it...), specially for the fact that the homescreen applets have risen in number recently and many of them are quite usefull (Omweather and GPE Summary for example), so once arranged it whould be wise to keep them in a fixed position (my nightmare is scrolling the rss feed reader, every once in a while I move it by mistake :mad: )

What's hard to believe is that this was almost literally the first thing users complained about when ITOS2008 came out. And yet, here the fecking bug still is, two iterations later.

Yes, at Nokia they listen to user and community input. They just don't do anything...

Andre Klapper 2008-07-21 12:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 205386)
What's hard to believe is that this was almost literally the first thing users complained about when ITOS2008 came out. And yet, here the fecking bug still is, two iterations later.

I don't think it is trivial to solve. Feel free to vote for https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 , I expect some improvements for the Fremantle release.

Karel Jansens 2008-07-21 14:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andre Klapper (Post 205412)
I don't think it is trivial to solve. Feel free to vote for https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 , I expect some improvements for the Fremantle release.

Go back to the way it was? Yeah, probably not very trivial, as it implies Nokia admitting they were wrong. Can't do that, can we now?

And no, I don't vote for Nokia bugs (anymore). What's the blooming point?

Benson 2008-07-21 14:24

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A careful (hey, even careless) reading of the comments on that bug shows that Nokia's not interested in going back to how it was, or leaving it how it is; they're going for a solution rather than either of the problematic implementations, now. I do wish they'd envisioned the real solution to start with, and not made the first change until they had the whole (complex, but versatile) solution implemented, but on topic: It's almost certain to be there in the next OS.


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