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lm2 2008-02-20 21:00

VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
If, like me, you have to reboot the n800 to restore the on-screen keyboard after using the igo BT keyboard, please vote for this bug at bugzilla. If you--god that you are--know how to solve this problem, please do chime in below and/or here.

Thanks!

Cptnodegard 2008-02-20 21:13

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
i have to do it with USB keyboards, but not the igo...weird

Betty Woo 2008-02-20 21:37

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
It's happened to me, too. But I'm wondering if it's just because I didn't turn off the keyboard before stowing it away [Blue colours 'FN'+'Backspace'] so the N800 was basically confused and still waiting for the iGo's bluetooth signal when I wanted to use the stylus... .

I'd hate to think I'm my own bug. I've been called 'batty' before, though, so I guess it's possible :-)

lm2 2008-02-20 21:48

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Betty Woo,

I'm pretty sure I've tried all possible ways of "unpairing" the iGo, and none are working. General Antilles tells me that he can either let the keyboard just sleep, or else fold it up, and the tablet recognizes that it's no longer in use, and then makes the onscreen keyboard available again.

So I tried the sleep method. And I got excited when the tablet's backlight came on at the precise moment the keyboard went to sleep. I though, HA!, IT RECOGNIZES THE SLEEPING! But, alas, still no on-screen keyboard.

Thanks for your input, though!

dont 2008-02-20 22:12

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Hmm...

So I use the iGo and type, type, type...

Close the iGo, wait until the blue tooth symbol turns white - maybe 10 seconds - tap into a text area and up pops the on-screen keyboard.

It seems to just work without un-pairing and re-pairing, no fn. keys - just fold it away. I was quite impressed the first time I used it ...

This is on the original N800 OS2008, I have not updated yet.

lm2 2008-02-20 22:18

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
I guess I have another anomaly: only once--out of many separate uses of the BT keyboard--have I seen the bluetooth symbol in the status bar. Even though the keyboard starts working upon hitting one letter to wake it, there is no bluetooth symbol. Is this super-weird?

instigator 2008-02-20 22:22

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
This happens to me also when I connect a USB keyboard, as well as a friend of mine who uses a BT keyboard (not iGo).

I don't think that this bug is specific to any brand/interface.

lm2 2008-02-20 23:08

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
UPDATE: Three times in a row now, I've used the keyboard, then folded it and let the tablet rest for about 10 minutes, and then had the on-screen keyboard appear when requested. Biz-arrr. I'll definitely re-post in a few days to report whether the problem is gone, or is now just appearing intermittently.

lm2 2008-02-20 23:23

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
UPDATE 2: Holy sh**!! Not only is the on-screen keyboard now popping up after the iGo goes night night, but--for the first time EVER since getting the n800 in Dec--the large full-screen keyboard is popping up when I press my finger on a text entry field!

Who knows how long this will last, but the fact that it's now working is really bizarre....

instigator 2008-02-20 23:59

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Murphy's Law :)

Did you install the latest firmware update?

lm2 2008-02-21 00:08

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
No, I didn't. Simply baffling...

dont 2008-02-21 00:10

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 145495)
UPDATE 2: Holy sh**!! Not only is the on-screen keyboard now popping up after the iGo goes night night, but--for the first time EVER since getting the n800 in Dec--the large full-screen keyboard is popping up when I press my finger on a text entry field!

That is how mine works, and I have not updated to the new firmware yet.

instigator 2008-02-21 00:26

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Strange indeed. I experienced the symptoms just last night and a friend of mine the day before. Probably a sticky process or something.

urnass 2008-02-21 00:37

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
I have an iGo BT keyboard also & have never had this problem.

Glad to see you've got it working again though.

If this happens again, try typing

maemo-gtk-im-switch osso-input-method

in X-Term. This might set the input method to the onscreen keyboard without having to reboot.

Betty Woo 2008-02-21 01:16

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 145495)
UPDATE 2: Holy sh**!! Not only is the on-screen keyboard now popping up after the iGo goes night night, but--for the first time EVER since getting the n800 in Dec--the large full-screen keyboard is popping up when I press my finger on a text entry field!

Who knows how long this will last, but the fact that it's now working is really bizarre....

Oh, good. The 'batty' vibes I'm sending your N800 is working.

Carry on... .

;)

lm2 2008-02-21 01:33

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
@Urnass, that is a really helpful suggestion. Earlier I was thinking that it might be possible to force the on-screen keyboard in x-term, but I forgot to ask.

@Betty Woo, thanks for your vibes!

lm2 2008-02-21 01:45

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
@Urnass, I haven't tried your suggested solution yet, but fanoush in this thread says

Quote:

There was such command in 2007 and 2006 system - maemo-gtk-im-switch...Such command is no longer there in OS2008...
I'll nevertheless give it a try if it happens again...

lm2 2008-02-26 00:42

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
An Update: I've discovered that in order to ensure that the onscreen keyboard will be restored after using the BT kb, I need to cease using the tablet, close the BT kb, and let about 10 minutes go by before using the tablet again. If I use the tablet before this 10 minutes of "sleep" is up, I won't get the onscreen kb back (even if I use the BT kb again and *then* let them sleep for 10 minutes.

In trying various combinations, I've discovered another weird thing. Typically, when the BT kb pairs up successfully, I do *not* see the BT symbol in the status bar. However, every once in a while, after hitting the first key to "wake" the BT kb (usually this is when the Notes app is open), the tablet will go berserk, the desktop background will go grey, and then the BT symbol will appear in the status bar, my clock applet will disappear, and the tablet will stay like that until I reboot. I have also noticed that sometimes when this happens, I am unable to close CLAWS. Wee-ird.

TA-t3 2008-02-26 10:24

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Is this with OS2008 and the ultraslim? I use OS2007 and the Sierra. I simply fold it and I'm immediately back to normal (that is, on-screen) keyboard.

lm2 2008-02-26 15:06

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
I am using OS2008 (though not the latest "power on/off"-fixing version), and the iGo Stowaway BT kb.

sjgadsby 2008-02-26 15:28

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 147728)
Typically, when the BT kb pairs up successfully, I do *not* see the BT symbol in the status bar.

So, do I understand that you've gone into the Control Panel, gone to Status Bar tab in Panels, and unchecked "Bluetooth" so the Bluetooth icon doesn't appear in the status bar? If so, this may have been your undoing.

I have an iGo/ThinkOutside Stowaway 4-row keyboard, and I never had any trouble with my on-screen keyboard reactivating immediately after closing the Stowaway. That is, until I just disabled the Bluetooth icon in the status bar as above to test this out. With the status bar's Bluetooth icon disabled, your bug appears. Re-enabling the Bluetooth icon in the status bar kills the bug again.

lm2 2008-02-26 15:42

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
THANK YOU!!!!

You are right, re-enabling the Bluetooth icon in the status bar removed the bug---i got my on-screen keyboard back *almost* immediately upon closing the iGo. I just waited until the icon turned from blue to gray/white and then the on-screen keyboard appeared when called.

This really is a strange bug. I'm not sure if it's made all the stranger in light of the fact that when the tablet has gone berserk in the past (as I described earlier), the bluetooth icon appears as the left-most icon in the status bar, but now that the icon is permanently enabled (as per your suggestion), it appears as the right-most icon. Perhaps this is an inconsequential observation, however.

Thanks again!

BoxOfSnoo 2008-04-16 18:55

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
I finally got around to voting for this. Bugzilla is kinda hostile to the general public, isn't it?

BTW, who do we have to convince to bump this up from "Low" priority?

I have had this bug lately, and I haven't disabled the bluetooth icon...

bhang 2008-04-19 00:47

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Id say, reflash you device with the same or the newest whichever you prefer Id say its from some other app conflicting with the sys.... just a guess but I had the same keyboard and when it was on the on screen disappeared and when it was off the on screen came back no problems, when the bt icon was displayed or not...

my igo slim was stolen and now I have a dinovo mini, but I never even had a hiccup with the igo.

sleepkyng 2008-04-22 07:57

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
I'm using the 4-row igo keyboard and in the middle of typing, if i press the "shift" key it activates this horrible auto-complete mode.

the worst part is that when i'm done with the bt kb, if i try to get on screen to appear, all that's left is this wierd grey box at the bottom (maybe for handwriting?) but it won't recognize any taps from the stylus and won't allow me an option to switch to on-screen kb (finger or stylus)

this is driving me nuts - maybe i can just disable handwriting? (i don't use it anyways)

sjgadsby 2008-04-22 15:00

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepkyng (Post 172968)
I'm using the 4-row igo keyboard and in the middle of typing, if i press the "shift" key it activates this horrible auto-complete mode.

That's not normal. Do you have it configured as "Generic 105-key PC"?

Quote:

the worst part is that when i'm done with the bt kb, if i try to get on screen to appear, all that's left is this wierd grey box at the bottom (maybe for handwriting?)
That's also not normal, and the grey box does not sound like the handwriting recognition area.

Benson 2008-04-22 16:03

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lm2 (Post 148012)
THANK YOU!!!!

You are right, re-enabling the Bluetooth icon in the status bar removed the bug---i got my on-screen keyboard back *almost* immediately upon closing the iGo. I just waited until the icon turned from blue to gray/white and then the on-screen keyboard appeared when called.

This really is a strange bug. I'm not sure if it's made all the stranger in light of the fact that when the tablet has gone berserk in the past (as I described earlier), the bluetooth icon appears as the left-most icon in the status bar, but now that the icon is permanently enabled (as per your suggestion), it appears as the right-most icon. Perhaps this is an inconsequential observation, however.

The statusbar is reset to a known safe (i.e. factory default) state on a desktop crash. That includes the BT icon, and puts it on the left. Your config, however, has it on the right. A couple points:
To change where it is, go Control Panel -> Panels, and select it, then use the /\ and \/ buttons to move it up and down the list.
And, to recover from a desktop crash, Control Panel -> Panels, OK. The config of the task navigator and status bar will be restored. (Home applets also die, but there's no quick way to recover them...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepkyng (Post 172968)
I'm using the 4-row igo keyboard and in the middle of typing, if i press the "shift" key it activates this horrible auto-complete mode.

I think it's actually shift+space, or some such...

Quote:

the worst part is that when i'm done with the bt kb, if i try to get on screen to appear, all that's left is this wierd grey box at the bottom (maybe for handwriting?) but it won't recognize any taps from the stylus and won't allow me an option to switch to on-screen kb (finger or stylus)
It thinks you have the keyboard slid out.
Quote:

this is driving me nuts - maybe i can just disable handwriting? (i don't use it anyways)
Disabling handwriting won't help... That's meant for selecting auto-completion entries with the slide-out keyboard.

What's that you say? your N800 has no slide-out keyboard? Whaddyaknow, I can't find mine either! But I must have one, or it wouldn't be out...:rolleyes:
So just run
Code:

gconftool -t bool -s /system/osso/af/slide-open false
to tell your N800 that it's slider is closed now, and everything works again.

GeraldKo 2008-04-22 17:27

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Benson's solution

Quote:

Just run

Code:

gconftool -t bool -s /system/osso/af/slide-open false
and everything works again.
does the trick.

But seeing as I'm only the 8th person to report what is, for N800 users, a serious bug with a very non-obvious solution, it would be great if more users would go to the bug-reporting-site and report it. It just takes a minute to get an account and vote for the bug.

(I don't know how else to move it from Low Priority. They give "low priority" to a bug that essentially disables the unit for N800 users?)

GeraldKo 2008-04-22 18:43

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 173181)

But seeing as I'm only the 8th person to report what is, for N800 users, a serious bug with a very non-obvious solution, it would be great if more users would go to the bug-reporting-site and report it. It just takes a minute to get an account and vote for the bug.

(I don't know how else to move it from Low Priority. They give "low priority" to a bug that essentially disables the unit for N800 users?)

Hey, I filed my bug report and then just now I got an email that they upped the bug Priority from Low to Medium!

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-22 19:01

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 173233)
Hey, I filed my bug report and then just now I got an email that they upped the bug Priority from Low to Medium!

You're welcome. ;)

tso 2008-04-22 19:04

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
also note that

Code:

gconftool -t bool -s /system/osso/af/keyboard-attached false
should make ones onscreen keyboard return.

nokia seems to love using gconf to tell the apps about the state of hardware...

GeraldKo 2008-04-22 19:24

Re: VOTE BUG: no on-screen keyboard after iGo use
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 173246)
You're welcome. ;)

Aha! Have you also been leaving those quarters under my pillow when I lose a tooth? :)


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