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Benson 2008-02-20 22:21

Internet Tablet Video Converter -- OS X Target?
 
ITVC's being worked on for OSX, but Victor (aka vbrilon) needs to know which OSX? So I'm starting a poll to hopefully provide him with helpful feedback...
Quote:

Originally Posted by vbrilon (Post 145444)
Hi,

We're working on the next release of the ITVC application (see my sig for details and link) and we'd like to get an OS X version out for the community.

The question is that there 4 possible targets for OS X:
1) Intel with Leopard
2) Intel with Tiger
3) PPC with Leopard
4) PPC with Tiger

Rather than hold off releases until we have every single scenario covered, I'd like to get a release out soon targeting the most popular platform.

Can you please reply to this thread (or PM me if you'd prefer) and let me know which OS version and hardware platform you use for your video conversion needs.

Thanks for the feedback!
Victor


Betty Woo 2008-02-21 02:09

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2

3 in a few months :)

sjgadsby 2008-02-21 17:38

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Ugh. I can't keep track of these frelling cats. It's good Google is around for version number to feline conversion.

edski 2008-02-21 18:24

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I chose the PPC with Tiger since I do most of my video stuff with a G5 dual 2 ghz.

I believe that the way to target the widest mac audience with a 'first out of the gate' app would be to build a Tiger (OS 10.4) 'Universal Binary'. In most cases, anybody with OS 10.4 (Tiger) could run the app whether they have an older Motorola PPC G4, G5, or newer Intel-chipped machine. And typically, a Leopard (OS 10.5) Intel Mac user could still run a Universal binary built for 10.4.

Please note: my 2 ghz Intel Mac Mini came with Leopard 10.5, but it runs 10.4 Universal binary apps very well and can also handle PPC apps quite reasonably under the built-in 'Rosetta' emulation - but neither my dual G5 tower nor my trusty old powerbook G4 can run Intel-specific OS 10.5 Leopard apps at all !)

If the initial release is targeted for Intel Leopard (OS 10.5 on newer Intel hardware), quite a lot of people with older hardware/OS will be instantly left out of the mix. I believe that an Intel/10.5 specific version could follow later with specific performance optimizations for the lucky ones that have the latest OS on new or very recent Intel-based hardware.

vbrilon 2008-02-22 00:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edski (Post 145846)

I believe that the way to target the widest mac audience with a 'first out of the gate' app would be to build a Tiger (OS 10.4) 'Universal Binary'. In most cases, anybody with OS 10.4 (Tiger) could run the app whether they have an older Motorola PPC G4, G5, or newer Intel-chipped machine. And typically, a Leopard (OS 10.5) Intel Mac user could still run a Universal binary built for 10.4.

I have a post on this in another thread, but in a nutshell, the issue isn't making a Universal binary for PPC/Intel. That's just a compile time flag. Rather, the issue is that if we have time to test only one flavor of OS/platform combo, I want to test that and release it ASAP. We'll support all 4 combinations eventually -- but given an aggressive dev/test schedule I am curious in which one people want to see first.

GeneralAntilles 2008-02-22 00:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 145830)
Ugh. I can't keep track of these frelling cats. It's good Google is around for version number to feline conversion.

They only change about once a year, and there's only 5 of them, it's not that hard. . . . :p

sjgadsby 2008-02-22 00:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 146039)
...there's only 5 of them...

Hey, I only have three kids, and I call them by the wrong names sometimes.

vbrilon 2008-02-22 02:40

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UPDATED YET AGAIN: With 60+ votes in (as of early Friday morning), looks like Intel+Leopard is solidly in the lead. Cast your votes please if you haven't already. I'd like to get the results finalized by Tuesday night US time.

megabyte405 2008-02-22 08:28

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I use Leopard on Intel, but I also just use Handbrake generally. Would be nice to see official software, but do what you think is best :)

timmbacca 2008-02-22 18:00

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Will Mac ever come out with number 11 or will we have to see a osx 10.9 tabby?

I voted for power pc leapord cuz that's what I use.:p

mariuss 2008-02-23 23:22

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A Linux/Gnome version would have been my first option :-(

vbrilon 2008-02-23 23:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mariuss (Post 146866)
A Linux/Gnome version would have been my first option :-(

Please see this discussion in another thread as I don't want to rehash it here. Short summary is that Linux users have a wealth of options when it comes to video converters already. In addition, typical Linux users aren't generally the ones that want/need a one-click conversion solution. Plus there's the issue of commercial codec availability for the Linux platform.

Damn it, I guess I just rehashed the whole thing anyway :)

vbrilon 2008-02-26 03:32

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One last update (and a thread bump) -- with over 100 votes, Intel+Leopard has 50%+ of the lead. Only 24 hours left to vote. So if you have an opinion, make sure it gets heard.

vbrilon 2008-02-27 14:33

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The people have spoken and we have listened :) Our first OS X release will be focused on Intel/Leopard for testing purposes. Of course we'll do our best to get support for the PPC/Tiger combinations as well, they'll just be a little further down the line.

Thanks to everyone who voted, your help is appreciated.

brontide 2008-02-27 14:42

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why rebuild what is already there. Use handbrake and just create a few profiles that can be added to the system. One of the side benefits is that handbrake's engine also runs under linux so the same profiles should work on the command line linux version as well.

GeneralAntilles 2008-02-27 14:55

Re: Internet Tablet Video Converter -- OS X Target?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brontide (Post 148560)
why rebuild what is already there. Use handbrake and just create a few profiles that can be added to the system. One of the side benefits is that handbrake's engine also runs under linux so the same profiles should work on the command line linux version as well.

The point is to make an all-in-one encoding solution. Drop the videos in, it spits them out and sends transfers them to the tablet without overly troubling the user.

Besides, you don't seem to be entirely understanding Handbrake's purpose. Handbrake only converts from VOB. This'll re-encode just about anything.

brontide 2008-02-27 15:31

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Handbrake will convert from formats besides VOB, it's not a huge support list but they are adding new formats with each revision. Handbrake has some of the fastest/best deinterlacing code that I have seen, what they do have working is fast and reliable.

Transfers to the Nokia could be easily handled with a folder/automator action.

vbrilon 2008-02-27 19:29

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The reason we started this project is to target users who don't know about/can't be bothered to figure out programs like Handbrake. For most ITT users, who are power users, I am sure that there are plenty of good solutions for video encoding. But for mere mortals, we'd like to offer something a little more stripped down and simple to use.

Plus there's the little matter of the fact that as corporate entity, we can't exactly go around promoting software like Handbrake/mencoder/etc due to legal codec issues and such. Thus we have a nice piece of software (with a nice developer API btw for developers who want to extend it) that uses legal codecs.


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