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Re: Canola2 Beta5 Feedback Thread

Handful, am I reading the update correctly that feedburner and "other" pod+vidcasts are still not fully supported in beta 4+5 but may be in beta 6 (a week or so away) ?

Re: Canola2 Beta5 Feedback Thread

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Originally Posted by MikeL (Post 146989)

OK, running the "Canola2 Cleanup" tool on my Nokia 770 worked perfectly, solved the problem and I was able to install Canola2 at beta 5 and Canola Tuning on latest version of OS2006. (The Canola Cleanup tool should be easily found in the application Manager if you have Canola2 installed already on your device)

I did need to "Hard Re-boot" the Nokia 770 after installation of Canola2 to ensure underlying elements were set up correctly. (i.e to actually playback with sound, mp3 files that Canola2 could see)

Canola2 appeared to Lock up when trying to play "Discovery.avi" (Could not traverse menu structure with stylus or hardware keys) requiring battery to be removed to close unit. (On/off button ineffective) Further testing seems to suggested that waiting for a long time, the device will eventually recover.

Therefore my personal conclusion is that Canola2 beta 5 would be fine for Music and Photos, but I would definitely not promote using it to play movies on the Nokia 770 as the combination of mplayer and Canola UI seems makes the Nokia 770 totally unresponsive. [Just use mplayer on its own as it works well ;) ]

Be aware that mp3's currently seem to take a little time to start the first track playback when you have just started Canola2 for that session (Once first track is played, seems more responsive) Photos are fine but if you attempt to use the new zoom feature (Which works well) Canola 2 can become unresponsive. (Not as unresponsive as with movies)

I also noted some problems with sound level being out of sync with player indicated level at times, which appeared to be solved by adjusting sound level in UI.

I have not tested podcasts and Iradio on Nokia 770 using Canola2 Beta5

Beta5 release of Canola2 whilst providing more of the latest added features, seems to make Canola2 too unstable for use on the Nokia 770's Hardware. YMMV

OK, I read in this thread where fms commented that between running the Canola Cleanup routine and installing Canaol2 you must "Hard reboot device"

I thought hey, that's the one thing I know I did not do between removing Canola beta 3 on my Nokia 770 using the Canola Cleanup tool and subsequently installing Beta 5. Could this be why I was experiencing lock-ups and even slower response when compared to testing the earlier beta releases of Canola 2 for Nokia 770?

In the interest of consistent testing I decided to reinstall beta 5 again on my Nokia 770 making sure this time that i did a hard re-boot between cleanup and install.

It made a difference. I can now play the movie and switch between full and thumb playback. (OK we still need to wait for playback but it works) I can also zoom in/out of photos all without giving the appearance of locking up the device.

So my advise to Nokia 770/all users of Canola2 beta is to consider using the "Canola cleanup" to remove all traces of Canola2, hard reboot device, then install Canola2 beta 5 cleanly on your device. (Note its easy as App Manager already has the package links so reinstalling clean is simple)

Be aware that if you take my advise, you will lose all your Canola settings, podcasts and URL links. But it's worth it if you are experiencing problems and want to try with a fresh start. Well at least this is my experience. YMMV

Canola Team "Apologies for jumping to conclusions" about beta 5 being worse that earlier Canola2 betas on Nokia 770, I was very wrong ;) :)

Re: Canola2 Beta5 Feedback Thread

I upgraded to beta 5 last night from beta3, and my podcast directory is messed up. The names of the podcasts are still the same, but the episodes in each one have become mixed up. For example, lugradio's episodes are listed under 'a way with words' podcast. When it finds new podcasts it adds them under the matching title, so then I have mixed episodes.

very strange

is there a way to save my list of podcasts so that if I try a reinstall I don't have to retype all of the urls?

thanks,
hal

Re: Canola2 Beta5 Feedback Thread

HFW : we talked about this in the other threads :

Do a regular backup on maemo backup system, and when restoring everything will be there. We added support to the Canola db and covers etc.

Br

Marcel

Re: Canola2 Beta5 Feedback Thread

Thanks for your continuous efforts to improve Canola, Keep up the good work!

I like the new bigger battery icon, however it is missing one feature which the old icon had: showing the level of battery, while it is charging. Is it possible to re-implement that with the new icon? (Sometimes I started Canola just to see where my battery was holding during charging)

Re: Canola2 Beta5 Feedback Thread

iK, yes, we thought about it, actually if I'm not mistaken the icon is ready, but we had no time to implement : / maybe in future versions

Br

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta5 Feedback Thread

My wishlist for Canola.....
No command line install needed.
I hate the comand line.
I keep reading the threads, waiting for successful installs to be reported that don't end up as command line hell.....
Thanks for al the great work, and the app looks truely amazing.

Re: Canola2 Beta5 Feedback Thread

@Drhal35 : we don't want at all this kind of problem, but we cannot fix things that we didn't broke. EVEN for that, we did think about people like you and did the Canola-cleanup, canola cleanup is not a installer, but if you face the "dependencies" problem on the app installer (that we have been trying to figure out where canola triggers it) then you use clean up to do ALL the command line commands that are needed to remove. Then you can install using the application manager.

So my wishlist for the future :

a) a application installer that doesn't break
b) a rock solid repository that don't send wrong messages and broken packages
c) good connection for all users, to avoid users blaming canola when they are not able to install anything :)
d) less repository madness

so we are doing our best, but if it's beyond our reach we will not be able to do much, but of course if I keep saying I want canola to be simple, it's not a purpose that is not happening. There are several types of users's behaviors that we cannot predict them all and we are learning with it... So we are behind this bug.. if this bug is our we will find it!

Marcelo

Re: Canola2 Beta5 Feedback Thread

Just as a a further feedback - and this one is positive - on the Beta 5 install thru Application manager ...

While I had the problem of App manager not installing the beta 3 on my N810. Canola Cleanup actually solved that problem, after quite a few tries, and command line installs and all that.

So with a little bit of trpidation, I now again uninstalled beta3 (since I didnt find beta5 as an update in the update list in app manager).

I used Canola cleanup to remove it all.
Rebooted the N810
Went backt oa pp manager and installed Canola2 Beta5 and Canola Tuning.
Happy to report - everything works fine.

The photo magnify tool is great - Canola keeps getting better and better.

One request - can the podcast feature have a flag of being read - if I downloaded and listened and then deleted a podcast, so I dont mistakenly download again ?

Thanks Canola team

Re: Canola2 Beta5 Feedback Thread

nilchalk: it's already implemented :)
not only that but a little bit more on podcast :) we are just studing several options for that... don't worry it's quite soon going to be on your hands :)

Glad you liked the zoom, I'm also quite satisfied the way it went.. Leo did a great job! (and of course we like EFL power on Maemo (brought to you by Barbieri & rasterman :) ) :)

BR