Re: PC Pro gives the N810 3/6
 

The only reason?

Porting/writing a PIM suite is a non-trivial endeavor. It would take time and personnel away from other parts of the project that Nokia is actually interested in focusing on (web, media, communications, etc).

Re: PC Pro gives the N810 3/6
 

erm. those are the base functions of an internet tablet, are they not? web (microb), media (mplayer, media player, rhapsody, et al), communications (rtcomm, skype, gizmo, pidgin, et al), etc.

a PIM would just be an added feature for the people asking for one on top of it... well, read above.

the maemo porting/programming community will invariably come to the rescue in this glaring hole as well in the near future.

the reasoning behind no PIM thus far lay elsewhere.

Re: PC Pro gives the N810 3/6
 

Yeah, like I said, porting/writing a PIM suite costs time and money—time and money that's got to come from the core features of the platform.

Re: PC Pro gives the N810 3/6
 

I give 0/6 to pcpro for confusing PC and Microsoft.

Just made a test and searched for audio encoders and nothing is available for linux.


Then I search for an opensource ftp client.
None. They've never heard of filezilla.

Lame, really lame.

Not even going to look at their review, it's biased.

"Every program reviewed and virus tested"
lol

Re: PC Pro gives the N810 3/6
 

Last I checked, the aforementioned base functions were in good shape. I'm quite sure if they can cobble together between one/two people the OS Hacker Edition versions, they can spare one person to port a PIM.

It's not like it's something that doesn't exist somewhere in their intellectual property somewhere.

Or do you think that a lot of people would be tasked for such an oft-requested feature and it would take away from the functional core set as it stands?

Re: PC Pro gives the N810 3/6
 

Gerbick, there are a lot of things being worked on by maemo. GA is correct in that something has to give. No one wants the PIM/sync stuff more than I do, but even an impatient doof like me gets the concept of priorities... begrudgingly. :D

Re: PC Pro gives the N810 3/6
 

I totally agree.

But to blindly state that it would take away from other priorities makes it seem like Nokia is more grassroots than corporate; which downplays their size or importance pertaining the IT community.

Or perhaps it's the best description.

Either way, to just state that it'd be a personnel disruption is folly without stating proof. Opinions are like bums... each and everybody has one, yadda yadda.

Impatience aside, I'd like a PIM that would be worth my time as well. Patience is something I'm learning in regards to my N810. I was a bit too gung-ho with my 770.

Re: PC Pro gives the N810 3/6
 

Um... I don't see that (of course I have a different perspective). Even Nokia's resources aren't infinite. And there's a limit to how thin any organization can and should spread itself before becoming ineffective.

Resources allocated to a project tend to be proportionate to its perceived and/or current market. Hopefully the maemo group is growing appropriately. But *if* the functionality we're talking about is not in the current scope, for whatever reason, then it's not going to happen unless management changes that... and user insistence, in large enough scale, could make a difference.

Anyway, I'd rather we get the necessary infrastructure in place and let you guys create the ideal PIM. ;)

Re: PC Pro gives the N810 3/6
 

Yes, Nokia is big and has a lot of resources, but maemo doesn't get the full force of Nokia's corporate resources whenever they please (as we can clearly see from the ongoing issues with the website). So, yes, it seems like they have all the power in the world and should be able to give some to maemo, but the fact is that that power is tied up doing other things (like working on cellphones).

The fact of the matter is that maemo is only so big in Nokia's overall money-making strategy, and the resources they get are based on that.

Resources are scarce, such are the nature of resources. More common sense than anything.

If you really want proof that maemo has limited resources, just look at the website issues . . . or the fact that we don't already have PIM. :\

Edit: See Texrat above. . . .

Re: PC Pro gives the N810 3/6
 

Webservers != personnel. That was explained as a routing issue anyway.

The fact that we don't have a PIM is probably more complex than your simple manner of stating it. I'm more inline with thinking that Nokia is seriously disconnected with the wants and needs of the users and instead developing things as they think people want instead.

In simpler terms, they're acting like Microsoft. For example, nobody really wanted (or wants) Vista, but they delivered it anyway.

Anyway, the circular argument is that the website is indicative of their business. In that case, Microsoft's business is tied to their Hotmail/Live.com sites which have had spotty service as of late?

Exactly. The website has as much to do with why we have a PIM as Santa Claus and Godzilla. Nothing. The PIM and other oft-requested objects don't exist for other more concrete and pertinent reasons.

Either way... it will happen by the community quicker than Nokia.