Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

Greets to all.

I am thinking of buying one of these units. I am considering the device against a laptop.

Here are my questions:
1. Can custom TTF fonts be installed on the unit?
2. Let us say that there is an embedded RealPlayer stream on a webpage. Will the device play the stream by pressing on the play button, or does it need any certain codecs are plug-ins?
3. How is the speaker quality?
4. Does it need a screen protector, or can it do without one?
5. Does it deal with relatively large webpages like the iPod/iPhone, all zoomed out? In other words, is there a need for much horizontal scrolling?


Go easy on me, I just started out here :)

PS - is $230 a good price for the machine from buy.com? Are we looking at any price drops soon?

Thanks a lot guys.

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

1. Can custom TTF fonts be installed on the unit?

yes

2. Let us say that there is an embedded RealPlayer stream on a webpage. Will the device play the stream by pressing on the play button, or does it need any certain codecs are plug-ins?

The built-in mediaplayer supports realplayer content.


3. How is the speaker quality?

Sounds pretty good . Hardly any distortion . But not much bass with such a small speaker, and the maximum volume is a bit low.

4. Does it need a screen protector, or can it do without one?

Most people on the forum prefer a screenprotector see the wiki.

5. Does it deal with relatively large webpages like the iPod/iPhone, all zoomed out? In other words, is there a need for much horizontal scrolling?

Because of the larger screen and higher resolution you don't need to scroll as much as with the iPhone. There is a 'fit to view' function that makes a page fit on the page, although it makes pages load slower. The tablet way to do the scrolling and zooming is a bit clunky compared to the iPhone, but the screen itself is better for reading.

PS - is $230 a good price for the machine from buy.com? Are we looking at any price drops soon?

I think they cost around $180 ~ $200 right now.

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

Excellent. Where can I get them at that price?

And are there any guides for the fonts?

Thanks very much :)

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

From Nokia, $312 for the N810, if you've an inclination that way:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=17785
The N800 is $240.
Check Amazon, not sure where else.

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

Nah, I do not believe there is much more to the N810 to make it worth $70 more...

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

look at the 'deals and promos' section of the forum.

Search the forum using the google search on the home page, and wiki. If you don't find anything just ask on the forum.

The n810 has some advantages like a brighter screen for reading outside (transflective screen) , hardware keyboard and GPS, although the GPS locks a bit slowly and not everyone likes the keyboard. On the other hand the n800 can fit two sd cards instead of one like the n810.

Good luck

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

I am not seeing any good deals on the unit, so I will wait a little.

Can the N800 handle PowerPoint presentations?

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

Try http://overstockdealz.com/products.asp?id=N800 (New, $210)
or http://overstockdealz.com/products.asp?id=N800R (Like new, $185)

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

Google Docs works swell on OS2008 - so i've heard, has power point abilities, using it right now for a project. KDE is on n800/n810. Haven't come across a powerpoint program that runs in OS2007 or OS2008 maybe I just missed it.

I really want both a n810 and a n800 just because they both have their advantages and drawbacks. n810 is good except for single MiniSD & directional pad layout (hard to use with the small ring - end up pressing center button instead of the direction, close proximity to the upper sliding portion makes pressing up really difficult)

n800 is good except for the rather large layout of the device, no GPS, no trans-reflective layer for sunlight viewing.

n800 is cheaper so i'll prolly get that first since I am always kinda broke, and its dual SD slots (n cheap n bigger SD's vs smaller and more expensive miniSD(more popular microSD))

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

Hey, as long as it is pocketable, right? :)

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

Sounds like the $90 price drop in the n810 has been included in the discussion.
Personally, with an n800 and an n810, I am starting to like the n800 more, but it is noticeably less pocketable (I am 6'2" 230lbs, so I have big pockets, but there is still a difference. The n800 bumps my phone, but the n810 doesn't. I wear Jeans mostly).

Speakers are very good on the n800 (considering it is a battery operated thingy that is pretty small). Travelling with my kids, if I turn it up, they can hear it well a few seats back. That isn't an audiophile perspective, just a 'hear the words on a film/audio track'. it works for that.

I don't use a screen protector, and I let my kids use it some. I haven't noticed a problem. Had it for about 5 months.

It is good for looking over FAQS (plug for gamefaqs here), and I do use it for reading other web sites too, but if I can, I use a laptop or a desktop (desktop is even better for the bigger screen).

If you are looking for something that can make you happy in the living room (and with the earphones, the audio is very nice, and even without, up close the quality is there, and from a distance the volume is there) to read web sites and listen to some stuff, it is really good. Watching videos seems to be less positive, since you need to reduce their video bandwidth to enjoy them on the nxxx series (surprisingly since they has such a nice big screen, but apparently not such a nice big data bus leading to the screen).

I have ended up using them as toys, not work items like I expected. They are fun for youtube, websites, flash games, keeping up with my email, doing significant VoIP (my one work related real use), and, redundantly, looking at web stuff in the living room. To pull it out of your pocket and look up who that actor is on IMDB is priceless.

The n800 for much less money and with much more available memory (if you stuff the sd slots) just does much more. Despite my hesitancy over an on screen keyboard, I find that the onscreen keyboard of the n800 makes me happier than the slide out physical keyboard on the n810. And since the GPS on the n810 is almost worthless without the $xxx spent on the navigation software, I am liking the n800 more and more.

Good luck, Hope you find something that makes you happy!

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

Regarding that video bandwidth issue, quick question.
(Hang on, give me two seconds to vent...
*Gaaargh the imbeciles!*
Okay...)

Is video quality still decent with pixel doubling? After all, the N8** tablets have enormous pixel density, and pixel doubling gives essentially the same resolution as Cupertino's competition, spanned over less than an inch more screen space. Is the change acceptable and happy, or glaringly obvious?

What is the ideal frame rate when going at full resolution, anyway? (I know it's tough to give an exact number, but maybe someone has done the math or just done a lot of testing...)

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

I think the video quality is very good. I've been surprised that even action scenes are almost always smooth. I just went cross-country and back and watched three movies and found it a pleasure.

I use DVDshrink and the N800 Video Converter with these settings:

Resolution: 400x240
Frame Rate : 25 fps
Aspect Ratio : 15/9 (letterboxes it a little, maybe 14x9 would be better if it exists, haven't checked)
Bitrate : 512
Audio bitrate: 96
No resample
Two passes
Uncheck preference for no files larger than 1GB so that you get a single file in DVDshrink

Is that the ideal Frame Rate"? I don't know, but it looks damn good.

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And don't forget, the N800 has an fm radio, the 810 doesn't. You will probably buy a gps unit for the N800, and you can move it around for best reception. With the N810, you have to put the gps wherever the N810 is, since it is part of it.

So when you're cruising on the Queen Mary 2, you put the gps unit against the window and lie in bed holding your N800, checking your position and speed. With the 810, you probably have to get out of bed.

Re: Considering an N800, have a few questions...
 

geneven - lol :)

Thanks for the insight, PLeBlanc. I have made up my mind, just waiting for a good oppurtunity :)

I also read that you can install KDE on these things, making them essentially a $200 UMPC. Just excellent.