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Capn_Fish 2008-03-20 16:30

Reverting your OS?
 
I'm coming from the Zaurus world, where it is all but impossible to brick your device (theres a restore menu in ROM). Is it a similar deal with the N810, or do I need to be very careful flashing Angstrom/Poky/Debian/etc?

Thanks.

qwerty12 2008-03-20 16:33

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Well, new operating systems (debian) and desktop environments (KDE) are installed on MMC cards. You use fanoush's initfs to boot them up.

Capn_Fish 2008-03-20 16:46

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
It appears that Angstrom and Poky install directly to the internal flash, to me at least. What about them?

qwerty12 2008-03-20 16:50

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capn_Fish (Post 157843)
It appears that Angstrom and Poky install directly to the internal flash, to me at least. What about them?

They dont exist for Internet Tablets.

(If they did run on Internet Tablets, I'd be interested to see the link)

Capn_Fish 2008-03-20 16:52

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Then what are images/kernels doing in the downloads directories? The people on the mailing lists acknowledge that they exist for internet tablets.

http://pokylinux.org/releases/pinky-3.1/
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org...uild/nokia800/

fanoush 2008-03-20 17:02

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capn_Fish (Post 157838)
I'm coming from the Zaurus world, where it is all but impossible to brick your device (theres a restore menu in ROM).

It is similar but you don't have restore menu. You must flash image over USB. As long as you don't touch bootloader (or config partition) and flash only kernel, initfs, or rootfs, it is unbrickable.

Capn_Fish 2008-03-20 17:04

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Great news!

Thanks much.

cvmiller 2008-03-21 01:55

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capn_Fish (Post 157854)
Great news!
.

I just wanted to add my Welcome from the Zaurus World. It is always nice to see another Z-person here on the IT side.

The IT is a different machine from the trusty Z. For one thing, there really is no effort to be a PDA (no calendar, todo list, sync to PC, sure you can find stuff, but not from Nokia). The wireless battery life is wonderful! On my SL6000, it was able to get 1.5 hours max, with my N800, I get 2 days or more.

There's no way to run the old trusty Z apps on the IT. There are some who are working on getting QT onto the IT, but the apps would still require recompiling (different ARM architecture, called ARMEL).

Good luck, and have fun!

Craig...

Capn_Fish 2008-03-21 03:12

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
I'm hoping to stick the same OS (Angstrom) my Z has on my soon-to-arrive N810, so I can run the same apps.

Benson 2008-03-21 04:15

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Do report back how it goes; I have heard Angstrom mentioned perhaps twice in these forum, neither by anyone running it. We'd (or I'd, at any rate) like to know how it goes.

Capn_Fish 2008-03-21 22:31

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
I just tested Poky, but the touchscreen doesn't work. I'll try Angstrom soon (My image was foobared).

GeneralAntilles 2008-03-21 22:35

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capn_Fish (Post 158549)
I just tested Poky, but the touchscreen doesn't work.

Odd, touchscreen worked fine for me. Did you flash the kernel, too?

Capn_Fish 2008-03-21 22:47

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 158552)
Odd, touchscreen worked fine for me. Did you flash the kernel, too?

I flashed the kernel and rootfs.

Code:

flasher -k KERNEL -r ROOTFS -f

Capn_Fish 2008-03-22 00:38

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Did you try on an N810 or an N800?

GeneralAntilles 2008-03-22 00:39

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capn_Fish (Post 158581)
Did you try on an N810 or an N800?

N800

Reggie, turn off this stupid minimum character rule already. :(

Capn_Fish 2008-03-22 00:59

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 158582)
N800

Maybe that's the issue. Are the screens different?

qwerty12 2008-03-22 06:34

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capn_Fish (Post 158588)
Maybe that's the issue. Are the screens different?

Yes, they are. N810 has a transreflective one.

I guess it did say 800 in the name.

Capn_Fish 2008-04-05 22:59

Re: Reverting your OS?
 
An update regarding Debian/Poky/Angstrom on the N810: None of them work.

-Debian doesn't boot (hangs saying "booting from external SD")

EDIT: Could somebody post the boot.conf file entry I would have for fanoush's initfs that would boot from partition 1 of the external SD formatted to ext2 (I think that may be my Debian issue)?

Thanks.

-Poky doesn't work with the touchscreen (but boots)

-Angstrom doesn't boot


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