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bcvthul 2006-04-23 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcvthul
I guess i will switch backwards to the previous version of the firmware for the following reasons:

- clock settings is wrong (3 hours difference(?))
- many times mail is not loaded
- powering on is not good (I have to press many times the power on button before something is happening
. when powering off the charge-screen appears (??)
- browsing web-pages takes ages

Things look different(better) after recharge (??). Power-on is normal, power-off no display of the charge-screen appears.

Only the clock setting (solution is now known too me) remains.

Question: What does a recharge do, except recharging the battery?

fanoush 2006-04-23 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Invicta
If you mean dropping wlan (bug 329), it is still there. Now with sound when connection drops. As if it weren't already annoying enough.

But if you mean dropping wlan when bluetooth is (ab)used https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=326 this looks much better. So far I cannot force it to disconnect no matter how much I try with bluetooth scanning.

troubleshootr 2006-04-23 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcvthul
Things look different(better) after recharge (??). Power-on is normal, power-off no display of the charge-screen appears.

Only the clock setting (solution is now known too me) remains.

To repair the panel clock time:

http://cassarapage.com/770/panel_clock.html

Milhouse 2006-04-23 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by bertlmike
Anyone else having problems with their desktop-clock-plugin and clock application? The desktop plugin is off by 3 hours, and the application doesn't adjust the time according to the selected city, allthough time and timezone are set correctly.

Yep - the time is well scr*wed up... not even sure if it's affecting just the plug, I had the time set to 23 April 2006 9:15pm London UK, the clock plugin showed the time as 24 April 2006 12:15am.

I then deleted some of the default bookmarks and went to restore my backup bookmarks - the restore app prompted me "do you want to overwrite the bookmarks filed dated 24 April 12:15am" so it looks like the _system_ time is off as well!

Oh dear, not good!

Hoot69 2006-04-23 21:00

I gave up...
 
I gave up, and restored the December system...besides the clock screwup, I was consistently having problems with the News Reader not loading.

Guess I'll wait for a "US" version...

=-= Hoot :(

rattis 2006-04-23 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoot69
Guess I'll wait for a "US" version...

=-= Hoot :(

a "US" version, will probably be the same as the one in the wild now, if you mean wait for the us page to update.

Personally I think I might hold off until the offical 2006 version.

joolsca 2006-04-23 23:38

After removing the mmc card (before doing that, I had 2 freezes at 10%) the update went very smoothly for me. Everything is notably snappier...no clock problem.

9a6or 2006-04-24 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by troubleshootr
To repair the panel clock time:

http://cassarapage.com/770/panel_clock.html

Thanks troubleshootr, nice job.

Milhouse 2006-04-24 00:50

I'm assuming Nokia will update this build pretty quickly (-8?) adding back the timezones they forgot (it only contains Helsinki, hence all the clock-related issues).

I've had to enable RD mode just to get the right time showing on my 770 (granted it allowed me to do some other stuff but still...) - bit of a clanger dropped by Nokia on this release! Lets hope the 2006 release has better QA! :)

troubleshootr 2006-04-24 03:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse
I'm assuming Nokia will update this build pretty quickly (-8?) adding back the timezones they forgot (it only contains Helsinki, hence all the clock-related issues).

I've had to enable RD mode just to get the right time showing on my 770 (granted it allowed me to do some other stuff but still...) - bit of a clanger dropped by Nokia on this release! Lets hope the 2006 release has better QA! :)

Why Helsiki? Is Nokia based in Helsinki?

http://www.hel.fi/wps/portal/Helsink...=/en/Helsinki/

Since I did not see it posted anywhere, I wrote a small "how to" on how to fix the clock issue.

http://cassarapage.com/770/panel_clock.html

I

rattis 2006-04-24 06:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by troubleshootr
Why Helsiki? Is Nokia based in Helsinki?

http://www.hel.fi/wps/portal/Helsink...=/en/Helsinki/

I

Yes. Nokia World Headquarters is in Helsinki Finland. And some people wonder why they use linux

Milhouse 2006-04-24 07:05

The Nokia Research Center (NRC) is in Ruoholahti, Helsinki (about 2Km from the City center) - maybe this is where the OS and builds are being developed? :)

Many thanks for your help page - it allowed me to fix the problem last night :)

llywrch 2006-04-24 16:56

Anyone have experiences with the new image & Bluetooth? (I've been away from the forum for a while, just discovered this thread.) I have been experiencing some "interesting" problems with my BT keyboard alone as well as interference between the keyboard & the keys on the Nokia. (I suspect I could fix the later with some hacking to the xkeymap file, but haven't had the time to poke into the problem.

If there has been no BT keyboard problems with the new image, I'm willing to try it. If not, then maybe I'll just hold off. Better the evil I know.

Geoff

Neil McAllister 2006-04-24 20:24

WiFi seems much improved
 
Huzzah! The new image seems to have fixed the connection problems I'd been having in busy WiFi areas. Previously I was completely unable to connect using the network at my office (though my home router worked fine). With the new version, I got right on in one try. Now that really is a plus!

Hedgecore 2006-04-24 22:44

llywrch: Input seems a lot more responsive, though I could just be imagining it. No more pauses and missed characters. If the BT kb is going through the same channels, you might see a difference.

Titus 2006-04-25 13:04

Oh no, the dreaded bug 329 - WIFI connection drops intermittently ( https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=329 ) - appeared on my device after updating to this software update. WLAN connection just drops after couple of minutes inactivity, and yes, I have disabled power saving for WLAN. I wasn't experiencing this with 3.2005.51-13. Pity, otherwise device feels much snappier with the new firmware, but connection drops are so annoying, that I guess I have no other choice than downgrade to 51-13.

mrp 2006-04-25 14:43

browsing
 
I noticed problems, new to me, while browsing address www.savonsanomat.fi
Don't know if it is due to new image, but I no longer am able to scroll the page

jfvanlaere 2006-04-25 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoot69
I gave up, and restored the December system...besides the clock screwup, I was consistently having problems with the News Reader not loading.

Same problem with the news reader.

But where can I download the 3.2005.51-13 version ?

Thanks.

geoff 2006-04-25 18:54

Completely hosed at first
 
Interesting -- for me this release was very, very bogus until after a couple of reboots.

At first, my bluetooth was completely haywire -- my phone is there, then it's not, then it wants me to choose a phone (again), then it's trying to connect to the phone for no reason, the DUN won't work at all, and file browsing only intermittently.

WEP connections wouldn't work for me, either. WPA ones did, though.

Now that I've struggled (and it was a weird, voodoo-ridden struggle) to set up all my stuff again, and rebooted a couple of times, everything is pretty normal. And faster, too.

C'mon, Nokia...it should be smoother than this...

dinacre 2006-04-25 19:21

Hi everybody,
I've downloaded the upgrade, backupped the existing settings, flashed the 770, restored the settings and everythings works nicely (bluth phone connect, WPA, swap on MMC card, ...) and faster than before. Thanks Nokia, now waiting for a better Opera release (or Firefox definitively) with complete java support.

Tweak 2006-04-25 22:03

Downloaded the upgrade, backed up my stuff then flashed and restored.
Opera is faster in some areas, and I can now read my http://tuxmagazine.com/ pdf's. But the newsreader got messed up somewhere. I haven't tried the email function, and have not had problems with wireless connection.

Still no WEP w/chap support though :(

When I get some time I'll try to flash and skip the restore as that helped fix some weird issues last time.

Hedgecore 2006-04-26 14:51

Why can I 'sudo gainroot' and su to root without having enabled R&D mode on the new image? My machine was in R&D mode before the flash.

*edit: It still is. I guess those flags are stored in NVRAM or something.

Banner 2006-04-28 07:18

Found one big bug
 
It no longer works with the T-mobile packet data service. Which means I can't use my phone as a modem. Back to the store it goes I guess :-P hope it's still in the return period...

Banner 2006-04-28 07:57

I just noticed I have the time bug too, and I downloaded this all off of their website? Pretty PISS POOR programing on Nokia's part, they should fire their SW director.

mccake 2006-04-28 08:48

Hmm.. I tried that update out. It's awesome! Greatly enhanced the browsing experience and the overall performance of the device. I think this is what it's for. Comeon people. Don't blame about whatever clock glitches... Things will be straighten up soon. Who cares about the clock!

rattis 2006-04-28 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banner
It no longer works with the T-mobile packet data service. Which means I can't use my phone as a modem. Back to the store it goes I guess :-P hope it's still in the return period...

Why not just downgrade the software. You can still find (last I checked) the older version of the software at the Nokia USA site. No one says you have to upgrade and stay upgraded.

gristle 2006-04-28 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccake
Hmm.. I tried that update out. It's awesome! Greatly enhanced the browsing experience and the overall performance of the device. I think this is what it's for. Comeon people. Don't blame about whatever clock glitches... Things will be straighten up soon. Who cares about the clock!

Agreed that it is running alot better overall but how long to wait until Nokia fix the clock? I would have thought they would have done this straight away to save face on the matter. Sure its a small thing but it shows flaws in their QC.

tnkgrl 2006-04-28 10:23

Update went smoothly for me.

A lot of the issues people are having with their Nokia 770 being flaky after flashing can be solved by taking the battery out for 10 seconds, then reflashing, then restoring settings...

I've noticed that generally, if my Nokia 770 is behaving weirdly, taking the battery out for 10 seconds and rebooting fixes the problem!

Your mileage may vary :)

Hedgecore 2006-04-28 13:24

I've got one question about the clock. I've been wondering this for a while but I finally feel like enough of a dick to just say it.

If the clock is 3 hours off, can't you set the clock 3 hours behind so it all evens out?

(I'm either a genius or an arse.)

Tank: The battery's the root of voodoo troubleshooting in that thing... I've had to pop it lots and it *does* always seem to fix the problem du jour. Must be poweerd by gremlins or something. (Hope Gilman's treatin ya well!)

bradb 2006-04-29 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banner
It no longer works with the T-mobile packet data service. Which means I can't use my phone as a modem. Back to the store it goes I guess :-P hope it's still in the return period...

Must be you - works for me. I did notice they took away the T-mobile VPN selection from the menu, but if you edit the settings to change the server name it works.

(ok, that's T-mobile VPN service in NW Oregon)

Brad.

rr0123 2006-04-29 16:42

I upgraded and had an issue with the bookmarks--I could only add them, but not move or delete. I re-flashed and now everything seems good.

wallawalla 2006-04-29 21:27

Code 7 error during update - solved
 
I just found out how to overcome an "code 7" error.
This might be helpful to others although I didn't find any post from someone else in the forum reporting it.

The update kept terminating at 47% with this error. Nokia's support pages were no help as the error kept occuring while I gave it several tries and I had no second PC at hand. (http://europe.nokia.com/faqsearch/Sh...se&qt=code%207)

What helped was to raise the priority of the Update Wizard process in the Windows taskmanager to the highest value. Then everything went smoothly immediately.

My OS: Win XP SP2 on a 5 years old Sony Vaio

troubleshootr 2006-04-30 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedgecore
I've got one question about the clock. I've been wondering this for a while but I finally feel like enough of a dick to just say it.

If the clock is 3 hours off, can't you set the clock 3 hours behind so it all evens out?

(I'm either a genius or an arse.)

Tank: The battery's the root of voodoo troubleshooting in that thing... I've had to pop it lots and it *does* always seem to fix the problem du jour. Must be poweerd by gremlins or something. (Hope Gilman's treatin ya well!)

Just the panel clock is off three hours, the time is correct in the "clock applet".

Hedgecore 2006-04-30 16:14

Crap. Same with the clock applet that diaplays the time on the app bar at the top?

ByronZanos 2006-04-30 21:38

You're all forgetting one thing
 
Guys - you're all forgetting something. The upgrade you're using is the European version. The North American version isn't out for another 3 weeks or so. I spoke to Nokia today and they told me not to download the Euro version cause it may not work properly on my US phone. Furthermore, they said it could damage my phone. Depending on where you got your phone, there are slight differences.

ByronZanos 2006-04-30 21:47

I was specifically told that US version will be slightly different. Not only that, but they're fixing some bugs the Euro version presented. Just wait a couple of weeks *****es!!

Banner 2006-04-30 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattis
Why not just downgrade the software. You can still find (last I checked) the older version of the software at the Nokia USA site. No one says you have to upgrade and stay upgraded.

Well I'm stuck with the phone, I can't return it. But to be honest when I see that they release 'new' software that intoduces blatently obvious bugs I can only come to the conclusion that they LOST all of the code from the last release and rolled back to a prior buggy release and didn't bother to fix those bugs.

This tells me that the fired all teh original devlopers and replaced them with a team of incompetants. If I had known that this was the level of support and future releases I would -never have bought this product-. I bought it because I figured the thing would get better with time, as better software came out. Now I see that better software will never come out and Nokia has no interest in supporting this device any further.

As a QA manager with 20 years experience in that field alone, I've seen this all before an I know how it's going to play out. I'll use it for all that it will ever be good for: A low end remote browser that mostly works, and an xterm I can use to access a real machine remotely, for when I don't feel like packing my laptop. Not really very useful, I'd hoped I'd be able to do email with it, and documents, but the email prog is pretty much crap and it doesn't read MS documents, which is 99 percent of the world. So that kills 60 percent of why I bought it.

Maybe I'll ebay it and cut my losses, but I think I'll wait to see if the North America release doesn't have all the bugs in it that the Europeans (at the MAIN 770 site) got. Douobtful, I know.

Banner 2006-04-30 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradb
Must be you - works for me. I did notice they took away the T-mobile VPN selection from the menu, but if you edit the settings to change the server name it works.

(ok, that's T-mobile VPN service in NW Oregon)

Brad.

Maybe because I have no idea what the server name is? Or if I'll have to change it everytime I travel?

From the way it works, this is obviously the previous version of connection software, the one prior to their adding the VPN option automatically. So this release is apparently a roll back, not an upgrade.

Hedgecore 2006-04-30 22:39

As a QA manager I can understand your desire for a quality bug-free release (I'm a database monkey, I've got the same views - - mistakes are unacceptable), however bugs do and will get released. There's two things to take into consideration - - 1, this is an entire operating system, not a standalone application. 2, the 770 interacts with an extremely wide range of other hardware whether it be routers, cellphones, or PCs. Perhaps it's not always to blame. Your phone problems are most likely due to having a european image on your machine, though I don't have a cell and can't confirm this. I don't think you're running the 770 through a fair test case. You jumped the gun and grabbed a distro meant for another continent and have shoved all the blame on the developers. C'mon, blame placing is for upper management. (Though being in a QA spot I can understand the dislike for devs, I've seen the "I found a bug" "**** you you found a bug!" scenario played out many times).

If the North American image poses as many problems, I'll be more content to sit back and agree with your points, but until it's released, I really don't think this test case is fair.

gultig 2006-04-30 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banner
Well I'm stuck with the phone, I can't return it. But to be honest when I see that they release 'new' software that intoduces blatently obvious bugs I can only come to the conclusion that they LOST all of the code from the last release and rolled back to a prior buggy release and didn't bother to fix those bugs.

This tells me that the fired all teh original devlopers and replaced them with a team of incompetants. If I had known that this was the level of support and future releases I would -never have bought this product-. I bought it because I figured the thing would get better with time, as better software came out. Now I see that better software will never come out and Nokia has no interest in supporting this device any further.

As a QA manager with 20 years experience in that field alone, I've seen this all before an I know how it's going to play out. I'll use it for all that it will ever be good for: A low end remote browser that mostly works, and an xterm I can use to access a real machine remotely, for when I don't feel like packing my laptop. Not really very useful, I'd hoped I'd be able to do email with it, and documents, but the email prog is pretty much crap and it doesn't read MS documents, which is 99 percent of the world. So that kills 60 percent of why I bought it.

Maybe I'll ebay it and cut my losses, but I think I'll wait to see if the North America release doesn't have all the bugs in it that the Europeans (at the MAIN 770 site) got. Douobtful, I know.

That's funny. I still see the same devs posting to maemo-dev / maemo-users that began posting there in the beginning. Wow, they are even hiring more developers specifically for the maemo project. What's this, they have even promoted or expanded some dev's jobs to be more useful to the community!

Yep. Damn Nokia. Looks like they're just milking this for all it's worth. They should be more like that other company with the cheap popular web tablet that's built on open source software, and is still supported. The name of that company slips my mind.

I hope your QA isn't as short sighted as your rants.


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