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dbinabq 2008-04-01 17:03

Java for Internet on Nokia N800
 
Not sure if anyone has posted this as I can't find anything about it on the search.

Just got my N800 yesterday and so far I love it. Got it upgraded to OS2008 with no problem. It says I have Opera 8 installed.

So heres the issue... I went to my favorite site (pogo.com) to play some games. Pogo uses Java for running their games online. When you load the game, it says you need Java and to go to their site to download for Linux. I tried downloading all the Linux self extracting files but can't install through the application manager. So some more research, I found out I need to install it manually. Tried to use X Terminal, but it won't let me in the root as I have no idea what the password would be.

Fact is... I know nothing about Linux. I have been searching for some guidelines on how to accomplish this but no luck so far. I would be greatful for any instructions or guidance. I don't need to use anything else Java at this time... I just want it to work in Internet pages.

Benson 2008-04-01 18:10

Re: Java for Internet on Nokia N800
 
Did you try searching for java in thread titles before you posted this? the top result would have answered your question, I think.

Not sure what says you have Opera anything installed, but you don't. Or you didn't upgrade to OS2008, one or the other.

Texrat 2008-04-01 18:16

Re: Java for Internet on Nokia N800
 
Do NOT try to install regular Linux apps onto the tablet. Go through maemo.org (downloads), tableteer, the Nokia OS2008 site and/or developer sites mentioned on this forum.

Java is not quite ready yet. Benson is correct: it's been discussed ad nauseum here.

dbinabq 2008-04-01 18:46

Re: Java for Internet on Nokia N800
 
thanks for the responses and I apologize.

Nokia says I have Opera 8:

From: http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/me...800_en_R1.html


Nokia N800
Technical Specifications

General | Internet Tablet OS 2007 Edition | Package Contents

General

Access the Web on a portable internet tablet

* High-resolution widescreen display with improved viewing angle
* Opera 8
* Adobe® Flash® 9 browser plug-in

And this is what it says in the About Product screen... Internet Tablet OS: maemo Linux based OS2008 Version: 2.2007.51-3

So what type of browser do I have and am I running OS2008???

mrklaw 2008-04-01 18:48

Re: Java for Internet on Nokia N800
 
It also says you have OS 2007. When you upgraded your OS you switched to the MicroB browser.
http://browser.garage.maemo.org/

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbinabq (Post 163501)
thanks for the responses and I apologize.

Nokia says I have Opera 8:

From: http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/me...800_en_R1.html


Nokia N800
Technical Specifications

General | Internet Tablet OS 2007 Edition | Package Contents

General

Access the Web on a portable internet tablet

* High-resolution widescreen display with improved viewing angle
* Opera 8
* Adobe® Flash® 9 browser plug-in

And this is what it says in the About Product screen... Internet Tablet OS: maemo Linux based OS2008 Version: 2.2007.51-3

So what type of browser do I have and am I running OS2008???


dbinabq 2008-04-01 18:52

Re: Java for Internet on Nokia N800
 
Thank you mrklaw... that was helpful.

dbinabq 2008-04-01 19:59

Re: Java for Internet on Nokia N800
 
What about running J2ME on the tablet? Would that work?

Benson 2008-04-01 20:06

Re: Java for Internet on Nokia N800
 
That's also available, but not quite useful. The specific implementation used is PhoneME, if you want to look it up.

dbinabq 2008-04-01 20:16

Re: Java for Internet on Nokia N800
 
In an effort of not sounding too dumb... if I install a Java application that runs on the tablet, would a web page use that engine and run Java?

rwzeitgeist 2008-04-01 20:18

Re: Java for Internet on Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dbinabq (Post 163556)
What about running J2ME on the tablet? Would that work?

Probably. FYI: from a previous Java thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 159836)
The web browser in OS2008 is a Gecko-based browser, similar to Firefox 3; so fully supports JavaScript. However, apart from a similarity of syntax there is no commonality between JavaScript and Java.

Jalimo can be used to run Java SE applications, using SWT as a GUI toolkit and this is making good progress. Even without using the Jazelle extensions supported by the CPU, apart from start-up time, it's not as slow as I was expecting in use.

There are no browser plugins which hook into Jalimo or similar to provide Java applet support in the browser, as far as I'm aware.

I successfully used Jalimo on an N800 to demo a distributed application with pieces spread across four machines. It is quite good, provided the code you want to run doesn't depend on AWT or Swing. Except for the two GUI libraries, it is much closer to SE than ME, a real good thing. We actually developed the Java code using Eclipse on both Windows and Linux Fedora, then moved the jar files to the various handhelds. Two of the handhelds in the demo ran verisons of Windows Mobile running J9, the third handheld, the N800, ran Jalimo, and the fourth machine was a laptop running Sun's J2SE.

Bob

k-dog 2008-04-02 19:03

Re: Java for Internet on Nokia N800
 
I sounds like you are trying to run applets... Is this correct? I found I can run applets by installing Jalimo plus the additional classpath-tools package from the same repository. This installs gappletviewer which you can use to view applets much like Sun's appletviewer app. It seems slow, but is definitely workable with non-intensive apps. If you want to run the applets right in the browser, you will have to find some way to port the gcjwebplugin which is also part of gnu classpath, but I can't seem to find it in the Jalimo repository.

I was experimenting with trying to run the citrix client applet, and it seems to work, but is unbearably sssllloooowww, but I'll post about that in a different thread.

If you are on OS2008, you will not be able to use PhoneME, as it is not ported to that platform yet. But if you are < os2008, you may want to give that a try also. I think there is somebody working on the OS2008 port, but info is few and far between.

naxchua 2008-04-06 10:44

Re: Java for Internet on Nokia N800
 
hmm.... me too... i just got my N800 few days ago... i m also looking for solutions to log on into my Internet Banking Website... I could not get thru to all my bank's internet banking sites.... :(


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