Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

Yo!

I just checked out the Pandora site. SWEET!!! Any thoughts on when this little unit will be available in Canada/North America?

Shame there is no planned Bluetooth hardware integration for this edition. I guess that's a future consideration for version 2.

Crouching Hamster

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

The first 3,000 pcs G/A production units should be available in June/July.

The Pandora does indeed not have built in bluetooth, but it does have a USB 2.0 full host port. USB BT sticks have shrunk to truly minuscule dimensions, so inconspicuous BT won't be a problem.

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

You should try harder. The libc depend is just the standard libc for os2008 sdk. you can try to install with "dpkg -i --force-depends" etc and see how you go - it is unlikely to actually require a specific libc. if this works ok for you then i will try an manually set a lesser dependency for the next release. if not then you can just rebuild it in the 2007 (or whatever) sdk.

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

well spotted - i will fix this in the next version. though i will probably move it to be in "MyGames" so the levels can be easily accessed with File Manager.

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

I'd really like to know what you think we should watch out for.

We are doing our best to interact with the open source community - the outcome can be debatable and i agree that it's a mixed success in different areas.

However from kernel point of view i haven't seen any activity from the Pandora project on public mailing lists like linux-arm or linux-omap.

I don't know if they will pickup some of the code drops from TI or what, but it looks like they have not much support for a community of developers.

If you are just interested in the HW, well, ok but it still requires sw, right?

Possibly a community will rise around it.

And so what Nokia should care about? If more stuff comes out, maemo will benefit as well. Maybe even more than having just plain ports of applications. Hildonization is acceptable for better integration but personally i see little value in "porting" by adapting a certain application to maemo specific weirdness when a debian version would be otherwise already available.

So more devices similar to the internet tablets will rather improve the vitality of maemo itself.

Just like Nokia is not the only company using Symbian, I think it never expected to be alone in the linux effort.

Provocatory as it might seem, your signature is bogus at best and most certainly pointless.

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

Just tried this on OS2007HE on my 770 and it runs perfectly. Very good fun.
Thanks,
John

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

I tried a bit harder. This is dpkg's output:

/home/user # dpkg -i --force-depends /media/mmc2/numptyphy sics_0.1_armel.deb
Selecting previously deselected package numptyphysics.
(Reading database ... 15495 files and directories currentl y installed.)
Unpacking numptyphysics (from .../numptyphysics_0.1_armel. deb) ...
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
dpkg: error processing /media/mmc2/numptyphysics_0.1_armel .deb (--install):
short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr /bin/numptyphysics')
Errors were encountered while processing:
/media/mmc2/numptyphysics_0.1_armel.deb
/home/user #


I don't know what that means, other than that I --probably -- don't have Numptyphysics installed.

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

It seems I hit a sore spot, eh?

I am mainly referring to the Pandora's hardware, but if you had taken the trouble to actually read the Pandora forum, you'd have met the community.

My beef with the Itablets is with Nokia, not with the community. Like you said, the Maemo community doesn't really depend on Nokia anymore, what with all those OMAP devices in the pipelines and a (possible) shift to Intel as well.

But Nokia certainly does depend on the Maemo community...

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

seems like johnpad got this to work on os2007he so it _should_ work for you. it looks like maybe your package is corrupted. you can check it (somewhat) with "dpkg-deb -c numptyphysics_0.1_armel.deb"

Re: Crayon Physics & internet tablets: made for each other
 

This is what dpkg-deb -c gave me:

/home/user # dpkg-deb -c /media/mmc2/numptyphysics_0.1_armel.deb
drwxr-xr-x 0/0 0 2008-04-01 15:11:15 .
drwxr-xr-x 0/0 0 2008-04-01 15:11:13 ./usr
drwxr-xr-x 0/0 0 2008-04-01 15:11:15 ./usr/bin
-rwxr-xr-x 0/0 167340 2008-04-01 15:11:15 ./usr/bin/numptyphysics
tar: Short header
dpkg-deb: subprocess tar returned error exit status 1
/home/user #

I find it confusing, as I definitely don't have ./usr/bin/numptyphysics. Then again, that was just about the only part of the output I somewhat understood, so...

EDIT: I forgot: I deleted my first download and re-downloaded the install file again. I tried to install it prior to this diagnostic run and got the same result as the first time.