[Canola] Canola2 beta8 Released : Release Notes
 

Beware! If you have extra themes installed, make sure to update them too.

Hi Everyone, so one more milestone was reached, and the packages are already on the repositories. Please point your applications manager to the update section and put it to test!

News for developers, Today we will also upload the file with the binary build of Canola for the desktop linux to be used as testing environment. It plays everything, and will work flawlessly on at least Ubuntu Linux. To guarantee a fully working testing place, you can also use an Ubuntu Live CD in VMware. (this is also the way for Mac and Windows Users)

If you are a theme maker, you can also download the example style sheet, and compile the theme in the testing environment for your personal test. As themes requires a probably complicated (for you theme maker) debian package creation, we are setting up a webserver to do that for you.

Youtube is updated, and uploaded to the Addons sections make sure you also update this plugin.

Last.fm is available today, so please check the Add ons, section!
Warning : As most probably known, theres not a full proof way to protect the Last.fm password, so you are warned that we are not encrypting/obfuscating your password (just like a lot of maemo applications do) and it's clear that you agree with that if you download and instal the Last.fm plugin. Our policy for that is being open, so Last.fm source is also going to be available on the website.

We need testers for : Experimental Kinetic List : As commented several times by myself (handful) on the ITT forum, we were always searching for ways of improving the list and making it better with less accidental clicks. So we did some changes to an experimental list implementation and we want to provide for those with list problems, and also for some with no list problems, because it's a very sensitive component in Canola UI. So if you know how to become root and place a couple of .pyo files on some folder please drop me a line at handful AT gmail.

Finally, apart from the changelog bellow a lot of bugs were fixed, even some nasty ones like the Mplayer taking over the keys on the video playing screen and we are really waiting for more feedback.

Better third-party plugin support: More API available for third-party plugin development.
Better handling of large titles in titlebar.
Fix during cover change.
Sort files inside "Browse by Folder".
Show current time during seek.
Fixed bugs in video player.
Ability to refresh podcast feeds manually.
Ability to select where downloaded contents go.
Smooter animation in the lists and sub menus.
General theme improvements.
Allow more podcast feeds.
Support compressed feeds and request them by default.
Better handle out of space.
Show more normalized download velocity and time remaining.
Various fixes in network handling in Podcast.
Restart downloads when podcast plugin is loaded.
Make it possible to preview the podcast description in the list.
Make it possible to read the feed description while listening to the podcast episode.
Remove episodes from "Podcast: New Episodes" when listened to or deleted.
Show the podcast feed title in the player as album and not the parent title.
Ogg support for the Scanner is back.


Unfortunately Out of beta8, but on advanced stage:

Playlist creation (on-the-move) + Playlist saving and other related features
Youtube paging capabilities for the search results (to allow more results to be browsed)
UPNP support
PNG thumbnail support still missing
Full hardware key mapping support

Known Issues in this Release

Don't set the download folder to a non-existant disk. It will not work, it will spin forever on Internet Radio and Photocast
Icon for last.fm on Red Theme is missing (using basic one)
Podcast "new ball" is coming back when you delete a already listened podcast.
Last.fm will scrobbling 2 times if you listen to more than 50% and then rewind the music.

Before asking question please take a look in the "using canola guide"
For more info, please visit the Internet Tablet Talk Canola Forum

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Hi Marcelo.

First feedback on beta8:
My installation procedure & feedback:

1. installed canola beta8
2. added all the video, audio & photo folders
3. went to "multiple album entries
it said "scanning, and within 1 sec, Canola died (completely; as if by forcekill)
4. I restarted; everything worked perfectly, and I combined a multiple album.
5. tried to login to last.fm. It said that my system time was not ... There was not enough space available to write the entire error message (to be fixed)
I presume that the error was that a long time ago, I set my homecity to London, yet the time was Montreal's (5hr difference). Afterwards, I set up a calendar, and if I change my locale, the calendar would switch accordingly. this has nothing to do with Canola, yet the last.fm plugin won't let me login.
after this, I changed my locale, spent about an hour retyping my calendar, and went back to canola testing. This did solve the problem with last.fm

Quick note on this problem: I did not have ANY problems with logging in from Vagalume. first time that it requires me to change the system time.

I tried to reproduce the button disappearance... without any success. Congratulations!
About this: the lack of the "menu" button in the bottom right corner in last.fm is normal or a bug? Oh, and is there a way to say "love" or "ban" in last.fm? i'd expect it to be in the lower right menu... also, do you have the option to save to disk from last.fm? menu needed!
Another note about last.fm: for the "next" button, I need to double-click on the button. Not a real problem, just need to keep this in mind.
Also, you say that
I cannot neither rewind, not got back in last.fm
Edit: last.fm does not automatically go to the next track. it freezes at -00:01, and I have to click for the next track manually.

Back to the youtube "freeze" i mentioned about previously:
When I had last.fm playing, I opened the youtube plugin and was quite impressed that the music did not stop. I clicked on a search, selected one video, and before it started loading, clicked back (wrong selection). The result of this action was a "frozen" youtube: I CAN scroll; i cannot play any of the videos. When I click on any video, it becomes highlighted, yet does not open. When clicked on the back button (both screen & hardware), nothing happens. when clicked on the middle hardware button on n800 (how's it called?), it brings me back to the "home" menu of Canola. If I select youtube again, instead of the menu, my search's results open right away, with the problem just described. I'll check tomorrow from the command line to see if I can give more info on this.

Also, it's a great addition the "browse by folder" section for local music. specially for someone whose audio isn't properly tagged (like mine)


Another note that I cannot classify as a bug: power consumption. when I open canola, for a second, I get the message that my n800 is charging (although it said that the battery was full 5 min ago, and I did not unplug it). half a second after, it says that the battery is full [again]. is this due to an increase in CPU power (Canola was launched from complete rest), or is it something else?

More updates in a few days (will be out of town this weekend, without internet, I think)

Ilia

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Hi illiaden, I already forwarded you bugs to the person who's responsible for the code in Last.fm and Youtube. He will try to fix the issues, and as they are separated plugins maybe they are released before beta9.

Sorry for the last.fm thing. It's our first release, and for sure we will not be nearly as good as vagalume. Only feedback + bug fixing + features will make us improve to be as nice as them :) BUT :
The ban / love buttons are there. Just click where you usually would click the stars. :) (black theme has a problem - no icons were in the package - we will fix )
REWING or go BACK: yes, you should not be able to do that. It was a wrong word to use. Actually to drag the bar in any song (on your library not on last.fm) than the scrobbling goes again.

:)



youtube : do you still have mplayer installed? Please try the terminal way and go straigh to this video freezing problem. We need to know what's happening :)

About the power consumption thing : I don't know.. we don't have those messages here. Do you have any kind of device monitoring app ? applet? We will investigate it further and if you can tell us some apps you have installed so we can try mimic it here.

So you are also "plugged on power right" ? I don't know maybe canola is checking the battery and the signal is broadcasting to the system messaging thing. Let us investigate that deeper.

Cheers and thanks!

Marcelo

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The start of all youtube videos are slightly corrupted. Playback of the saved .flv's directly through mplayer does not show these same artifacts.

I still think the interface lags a little more than it should, but that's a subjective item ( flat black theme ).

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Hardware back/return button does not work as expected on the now playing screen ( youtube, haven't checked others )

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Hi,
First, thanks for mentioning about the flatblack theme problem in last.fm. It's the only theme I use (might try flatred to check).

Next, youtube update: I was able to run it normally after restarting Canola (without clicking back right away, it seem to work).
new "problem" found however: the video playback is unequal: the first 3/4 of a second, only 1/4 of the video is played, then in the last 1/4 second, all the remaining frames are displayed. (this is continuously repeated). That problem creates a unequal video playback, quite uneasy for the viewer. The playback was better on the previous release; the total framerate might have been smaller, yet more equal.
Wondering if you could take a look,


About MPlayer: I have version 1.0rc1-maemo.26.n8x0 (if there's a newer version, it's not in any of the repositories I have)
Ilia

P.S. please don't get me wrong: i believe there IS a serious progress from beta7 to beta8, and I appreciate it! I am just helping you find the bugs.

P.P.S. is a menu supposed to be present for the last.fm or not yet?

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Brontide : The Ui does lag in several cases. We do push it to the limits even more on those really complex screens (like the youtube list, podcast list) where there's too much objects on a scene : / We try to improve as much as we can :) This inital part, I think is due to the Streaming mode + embedded mode. If we can make it work better ( a patch for mplayer) we will do that.

Hardware back button : I will check this, it didn't happen here in my test devices.

thanks for the feedback.

Marcelo

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Last.fm menu : No, all basic features are in the screen right now.

Video playback : Ilia, we didn't changed anything (Really) on the video playback. We just say "mplayer please play this, embedded mode, thanks" :)

The codec mess on the first second already happened on beta7 (streaming) and it's actually some videos happens others not. We really didn't touch this. :/

I think you can see also that this doesn't happen if you play from canola, but inside the video section ( a saved video )

Cheers

Marcelo

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Hi,

I copy the problem with the hardware "back" button problem: only the onscreen button works when video is being played in youtube (both fullscreen and windowed)
This also occurs when playing video from a local folder.
Does not occur when playing music from local or last.fm. Does not occur in the photos.

Ilia

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yeah, it's a localized problem. We are already fixing it. We don't use hardware keys :) (kidding)

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Hi again,

video playabck again:
I selected one of the videos that I uploaded myself to try:
lagging in the manner I described before all along the video.
problem does not solve when played from local.

Just compared with youtube in the default web browser: smoother video, awful framerate (it is continuous, yet always at a bad quality).

Could the problem be that you don't say "thanks" to MPlayer loud enough? ;)

or could it be that I updated MPlayer 4-5 days ago?

Ilia

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Ilia : we really don't play it : ) it will always play worse than on mplayer, but this can be a "version" related thing. I'm testing with .26 and it's working nicely.

On my other device with .24 is really choppy :/

(send me your video url ? )

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hi,

Last update for today (11:30pm here, I'm way too tired!)

did not find any quick way to solve the video playback problem. Tried playing the default n8x0 video in canola: the lag described before does NOT occur. the video did lag 3-4 times during playback, but I consider this OK, since I know how much resources canola eats.
tried on a completely random video: no lag. Will focus on when/where the problem occurs tomorrow.

update on the hardware "back" button bug: still hdw button still does not work when the video isn't playing.

Good night everyone

Ilia

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video URL :www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXMP4mPVPAM (in russian, sorry)

or a search for : iliaden romeo julieta will give it to you.

good luck

another video i found choppy/laggy :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmwqpHsMExg (english this time)

both of them are bad when run from internet & local.

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Hi,

The problem is really with Mplayer. I have a version here with this problem and 2 with perfect playback. Is your video on the "correct" size / aspect ( or still stretched? )

When the video is playing on fullscreen, canola almost go to sleep, to leave mplayer alone doing it's work.. .so this is no excuse, but the fact that mplayer takes the playback and has a slightly worse performance (or not so slightly) in embedded mode.

As I have been saying, the only solution for us to really solve this problem is to work on a player engine for us : / I wish we had time : /

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Update: just tried your video, worked perfect on the .26 version device.
It seems that the stretch fix may have influenced the playback ? I will forward this to Arthur (morpheuz)

also played more with your name, all worked perfectly. So we do have a mplayer version problem : can you confirm for me your version ?

Marcelo

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Please everyone with Video problems check :
(xterm)

type:

dpkg -l | grep atabake
dpkg -l | grep mplayer

And tell us the version!

It seems that Atabake 1.3 and mplayer .24 is the worst combination. All devices here with 1.4 +.36 work flawlessly.

We are working on this to see what we can do about it :/ And now we were able to reproduce micro's bug (dbus machine UID thing )

damn it : /

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As of right now anyways (I say that because with the way my luck goes, about the time I think something is great and works, it quickly dies on me or quits working) I'm exstatic with this release.

My Videocasts finally work ! One thing though for whatever reason if I try to add the url in the settings menu they don't work, comes back as no url available, but if I go to the url and add it via the RSS feed icon within the browser low and behold they work.

Thanks again Handful and the entire Canola team.

Oh, and btw you guys at INDT are friggin nuts, this has got to be about the 3rd time or so that you've released an update on a Friday, do you ppl ever go home ??
(makes robot noises in the background)

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Finally a positive feedback :) hehehe (kidding, I was just wondering if everyone is going to face the problems)

TT : I think we are just a little bit nuts :) You know, the city is hot, theres a nice Air conditioner in the office, we like to hang around :)

Br

Marcelo

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I'm still unable to paste urls into the new podcast, radio, photocast fields. I don't think I've gotten any replies re this before, but still wondering if others have same issue?

Also had same sys time issue as first comment with lastfm, but not sure I'm undeerstanding the cause/solution?

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It seems to me that whichever SD card I have selected (internal or external), it always saves podcasts to the external card...

EDIT - Nevermind, it just requires a restart of Canola and then it puts it in the selected location.
Sorry, false alarm.


Anyway, thanks for the great software and the consistent updates! It's always really exciting when there's a Canola update. It's like Christmas all over again!

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No bookmark or resume feature appears to be in the works. I can't believe I'm the only person who wants to listen to audiobooks on the N800. I always thought it was a rather common activity.

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Chrisak :

Paste URLs are you pasting the correct link (the .xml or .rss or .pls ) with full address?
Or you cannot even do the "paste" comand? The control+v on the keybord (n810) will not work. try closing the keyboard and doing with the on screen keyboard (theres a menu there then... paste)

Even with that: install Canola tuning. This will add the feed handler to your browser so you don need to control +C control +V on canola. Just add in right category.

Abou the Last.fm issue :
Does your password have NUMBERS or Signals on it? if so :

a, there's a bug on the input framework (outside of canola) that it seems to only work on GTK applications( work correctly). Inside Canola (non-gtk) application, the FN keys (the one you hold to type numbers, or that you touch twice to keep typing numbers / blue color symbols, doesn't work.. thus if you try entering numbers on your password it will probably fail.

b. Solution : use the onscreen keyboard or make sure you are entering numbers for sure with the FN key pressed the right way.


BR

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@Joe : that point is not "you" on in the works. If you take a look at the forums, we still facing some basic playback challengers, and the priorities are set for the most requested features. Sorry but bookmark still on the list, but is not really a priority. The save position for podcast is a kind of simple bookmark and it's working but a full bookmark system, maybe will be left for a third party plugin : /

I really cannot commit the team for that now : / sorry

Marcelo

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I can not even start canola after the update. I have uninstalled everything canola related and run the cleanup script. Even rebooted before and after the script and it still wont start. It just says “starting canola” then nothing happens.

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adam : please, if you can, always provide more information so we are able to help you :

first thing to do is : run canola via Xterm with the -vvv option :

canola -vvvv

This will give us a hint on what happened, and we will be able to help you.

As far as the development goes, what we know today is that there's some alternative repositories out there for alpha-level applications that have dependencies needed by canola in totally different versions... this will let canola install but it will break it.

But this may not be your problem, so please send us the log!

Cheers

Marcelo

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thanks! I forgot about the vvvv, i just tried v at first.

~ $ canola -vvvv
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/canola", line 225, in <module>
mger = Manager(options.config_file)
File "python-terra/core/singleton.py", line 26, in __call__
File "python-terra/core/manager.py", line 43, in __init__
File "python-terra/core/manager.py", line 54, in _setup_plugin_manager
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/shutil.py", line 91, in copy2
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/shutil.py", line 46, in copyfile
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/canola/plugins/plugins.pickle'
~ $

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Handful, thanks for the reply... I'm using an n800, it's the paste command itself that doesn't work. I'm using onscreen keyboard/menu. I've tested quite a bit... I'll copy an url but it won't paste into canola. But if I switch right over tto something like notes, the paste wwill work. And I have no problems in any other app... so clipboard seeems ok. Of
course if I'm the only one witth the prolblem then I guess it must be my sys :) This problem existed with .07 and .06 but at some point over the last year it did work :)

edit... i've deciided to pass on the tuning app this time.

The lastfm thing is something odd.... i'm rying to sort iit out now reading past threads. Its all related to timezone. If I set clock/homee city to chicago then lastfm works. But then i'm houurs off. if i change back to correct time, lastfm won't logon :/

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chrisak, try using not the small osk but the finger one the larger one that opens with the Dpad press, try that if that still doesn't do the trick then open the url via the web browser then after a few secs that the page is loading up the RSS feed your orange RSS icon (the one in the browser) should show up then click that and a few secs later it should give you the add this feed via Canola.

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/usr/share/canola/plugins # ls -la
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Apr 4 23:02 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 0 Apr 4 23:00 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 744324 Apr 4 17:21 canola-core.zip
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 66574 Apr 4 17:22 canola-tube.zip
/usr/share/canola/plugins #


/home/user/.canola # ls -la
drwx------ 2 user users 0 Apr 4 23:05 .
drwxr-x--- 33 user users 0 Apr 4 23:15 ..
/home/user/.canola #

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To slightly rephrase, the problem is that while with GTK applications, pressing the FN key would lock it in FN mode until the next key is pressed, in non-GTK application the locking does not happen, so you have to keep the FN key depressed (just like you would on a normal laptop keyboard)

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@TTgowings

Thank you! That did the trick. And also led to an interesting discovery. In the keyboard options menu there are 2 checkboxes: 1 to launch fingerboard with fingerpress, and 1 to launch it with middle dpad button. I decided some time ago to only check the dpad option. When selecting a canola text field, as with any other app, I get the small keyboard with which I can type, but in canola the pasting didn't work.

For some reason the dpad button doesn't = fingerboard in canola like it will everywhere else... but when I went into the keyboard settings and checked the first box, then now when I click on a canola text area I immediately get large keyboardd with working paste feature. Yay!!

I remember now the early days of canola when pasting worked for me... it was with fullscreen keybboard then too.

Anyway, thanks :)

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N800, OS2007, mplayer 26

1. Had problems with start. It hang indefinitely. Started after removing ~/.canola ~/.atabake (also start takes much longer than with beta7
2. mplayer26 - youtube videos still stretched, I understood from other comments it should be fixed?
3. compilation albums... argh, didn't agree with some decisions of previous version(s) - you lost performer data - but it worked! Now it doesn't recognised two albums which previously worked perfectly
4. Not Canola (don't know exact relationship) but cover downloader failed miserably comparing to beta7. Only half of covers were downloaded. I know this is separate project but I suspect this is somewhat related to 3. and feeding of metadata.
5. Less responsiveness of interface. In beta7 I could drag volume slider without problems now there is considerable lag. Note: when I just click in some point it works immediately, just dragging with finger is much slower
6. Animations are less fluent comparing with beta7 (eg. covers, settings tabs).
7. In Album covers list is bug: if album doesn't have performer tag, artists name stays from previous album. This way I have Reise, Reise by Katie Melua (of Piece by Piece) :)
8. Youtube plugin: when I open settings tab (eg to save video) while still playing; audio and video stops but after closing tab it just rewinds 10-20 sec forward as it was playing non-stop.

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Beta 8 seems to be uncompatible with Python-launcher :

If Canola doesn't start after upgrade, this may be one possible cause...

EDIT : on one tablet (N800), removing python-launcher was enough to get beta8 up and running.
On another (N810) beta8 still fails with the same message adammelancon reported :
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/canola/plugins/plugins.pickle'

(both use OS2008 and ran beta7 just fine).

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And during next start up Canola also hanged completely. Something bad with reading of config files?

But third start (without removal of config files) was successful.

Problem with detection of network vanished. Thanks.

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I had Python-launcher installed, but removed it when i installed b8 and rebooted several times. I still can't launch canola b8 on my N800/os2008.

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Installed beta8 this morning prior to travel between Liverpool/Madrid.
(Time to test on plane, after quick test with internet connection)

Everything fine for me with update from beta 7 to beta 8 on N810 with latest version of OS2008, mplayer v26 etc.

Last fm works very very well ;-)

The sensible change in beta7 original location for saved YouTube videos means that previously saved videos are now NOT readily accessible (Those held on core internal memory) which is a little frustrating. Canola still knows about previous downloads (Thumbnails available) of saved items but now cannot access "giving invalid URL message" etc.

I am not worried about this issue but it does appear that perhaps users will need to clean up after Canola beta7 manually?

Overall Canola2 is rock solid, I spent ages switching options, going between music photos and videos and not once did Canola hiccup :-)

The YouTube video playback is still suspect with many videos having the video/audio sync issue. (Hope Canola/mplayer team continue to work together and manage to resolve this issue soon)

Like the way titles of songs will re-scroll when text is selected during playback. The Favorite Played tracks, I had not noticed before but they are only added to this list, if Five stars are selected. (Four stars or lower they do not show in list)

Great work Canola team, I am actually pleased you have delayed the UPnP release, as I can tell that you don't release anything for Canola2 unless its up to your high standards and you guys are really happy with it!

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Same problem here. N810.

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Vvaz :

1. Had problems with start. It hang indefinitely. Started after removing ~/.canola ~/.atabake (also start takes much longer than with beta7
- You had probably some problems with some files, that canola was trying to recover. With the full plugin support now it seems that some python applications are conflicting with canola ; / We will investigate this. There should be no added time to startup what so ever if things goes right.


2. mplayer26 - youtube videos still stretched, I understood from other comments it should be fixed?

- It doesn depend more on us. We did the patch, but the MPLAYER project must release a new version with this patch applied, .26 is not that version.

3. compilation albums... argh, didn't agree with some decisions of previous version(s) - you lost performer data - but it worked! Now it doesn't recognised two albums which previously worked perfectly

- Again the same way to solve: can you send 3 or 4 files of each album? so we can study also this case?

4. Not Canola (don't know exact relationship) but cover downloader failed miserably comparing to beta7. Only half of covers were downloaded. I know this is separate project but I suspect this is somewhat related to 3. and feeding of metadata.

- Well, the scanning / metadata didn change much (almost nothing). What must have happen was a failure in Amazon - last.fm service. CAn you try again in another connection and tell me if the problem persists? If the music is tagged (Showing in the menu correctly) the cover download just pics that and make the query

5. Less responsiveness of interface. In beta7 I could drag volume slider without problems now there is considerable lag. Note: when I just click in some point it works immediately, just dragging with finger is much slower

- Volume was like that. There a slightly delay : yes, since beta1. (actually was worse in beta1), we were looking into ways of improving this, but as it deals with some independent (system) components volumes the delay is giving us the creeps now :/ We still after this.

6. Animations are less fluent comparing with beta7 (eg. covers, settings tabs).

- I really don know, but probably you have a. something wrong on the system, consuming cpu and then canola is slower, or 2 you are comparing a flat theme with a regular theme. I'm directly responsible for the interaction design, and I can assure you if things slow down a little bit, I shout really loud :)

7. In Album covers list is bug: if album doesn't have performer tag, artists name stays from previous album. This way I have Reise, Reise by Katie Melua (of Piece by Piece)

- nice, thanks for the bug report.

8. Youtube plugin: when I open settings tab (eg to save video) while still playing; audio and video stops but after closing tab it just rewinds 10-20 sec forward as it was playing non-stop.

- Mplayer x FLV file format seeking problems. There are also smaller issues, that SUCK, but they are really more complicated (format x codec) things that canola doesn go into. Like I said before, if we wanted to solve this : We would have to make our own player, proprietary, buy codecs, and charge people more than 20 dollars just to pay codec licensing, and still we would not be able to play formats people demand :/ complicated hun?

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Hi,

first, about the video :
dpkg -l | grep atabake : 0.1.4
dpkg -l | grep mplayer : 26 (not 36 as you said works flawlesly)

video runs fullscreen, instead of 3:4 ratio; I presume it stretched...

found the "hidden" buttons on the flatblack theme for last.fm :D ... change the color to gray/white instead of black/white?

@ vvaz:
no - 36 should be fixed; I also have streched & laggy video on my n800, MPlayer 26 (OS2008)
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5. Less responsiveness of interface. In beta7 I could drag volume slider without problems now there is considerable lag. Note: when I just click in some point it works immediately, just dragging with finger is much slower
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on my device, the video response of the drag takes 1/2 second extra, yet the volume changes immediately. Would not consider this as a real problem.

have nothing like this. all the artist's names are OK. However, if an album has SOME artist tags and other files have the same album name, but NO artist tracks, then all the tracks with an artist are considered as an album, and the rest, each as a separate album (with the same name).
I'll post the link to this album once I upload it.

however, the last.fm was a great improvement to canola - now I can have one less media player installed :D

Also, Chrisak reported the same problem as me for Last.fm:
This problem will occur to all those who did not change the timezone after recieving the device and do not live at GMT 0.

I just realized how much work you must have right now fixing all this. I'll try to slow down my problem discoveries... ;)

Ilia

P.S. where could I get MPlayer36?