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mrlanrat 2008-04-08 17:16

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Originally Posted by z2n (Post 166654)

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Originally Posted by mrlanrat
4. Bigger backspace button (almost impossible to hit it with a finger)

That's the easiest request of them all!

Actually Id like to see if the Backspace button could go where the Cancel Button is.

heavyt 2008-04-08 19:29

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Originally Posted by brontide (Post 166577)
I doubt it, all DTMF tones are stripped in callback calling, it's a known GC "bug".

You may doubt it but I know from using DTMF tones they work when I use it with GC Mobile call back feature and my Gizmo account. Once again the problem is that DTMF tones do not work after a call is dialed with the GC dialer, but works fine it the call is dialed via GC mobile web page. Thank you.

brontide 2008-04-08 19:45

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Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 167046)
You may doubt it but I know from using DTMF tones they work when I use it with GC Mobile call back feature and my Gizmo account. Once again the problem is that DTMF tones do not work after a call is dialed with the GC dialer, but works fine it the call is dialed via GC mobile web page. Thank you.

http://groups.google.com/group/grand...b142b70f2ae67f

The only way to do it is via a tone generator since they only strip the in-band dtmf tones. Some clients allow you to set up "in-band" unfortunately then you can't press 1 to receive calls through GC your inbound number, but you can use DTMF on call back calls.

They know about the issue and are doing nothing to fix it.

racky 2008-04-09 03:34

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Originally Posted by brontide (Post 166845)
the 770 will need modifications to work as the location of the cookies.txt is probaby different under Opera.

as for n810, can you confirm your settings under m.grandcentral.com?

I do have the right settings at m.grandcental.com, and I can make the call by the old way, hit the name at the contact list, the name and the number show up, hit the number and Gimzo ring. I also rebooted, and left the web page open, nothing works. Any help?

Greyghost 2008-04-09 16:47

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Originally Posted by dkwatts (Post 166014)
One of the greatest apps of all time! Works as advertised!

The Nokia Internet Tablet IS now a PHONE.

I guess I must have missed something. I've installed this program, and while it does work, it doesn't work the way I expected, as a phone. Instead, I get the dialer, which in turn calls my cell phone and places the call using the cell phone.

This is ok, but the way I've got it configured, it doesn't use the N810 as the actual phone, just a graphical interface for using GC with my cell.

Now, I have a Gizmo number but I am not sure how or if the Gizmo number is actually needed to use the tablet as the phone.

Can you please tell me how you have the dialer configured?

heavyt 2008-04-09 16:55

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Originally Posted by Greyghost (Post 167457)
I guess I must have missed something. I've installed this program, and while it does work, it doesn't work the way I expected, as a phone. Instead, I get the dialer, which in turn calls my cell phone and places the call using the cell phone.

This is ok, but the way I've got it configured, it doesn't use the N810 as the actual phone, just a graphical interface for using GC with my cell.

Now, I have a Gizmo number but I am not sure how or if the Gizmo number is actually needed to use the tablet as the phone.

Can you please tell me how you have the dialer configured?

In your GrandCentral Mobile web page Settings do you have your Gizmo number as your Mobile Number? If not try and see if that works for you.

brontide 2008-04-09 17:37

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Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 167462)
In your GrandCentral Mobile web page Settings do you have your Gizmo number as your Mobile Number? If not try and see if that works for you.

Addendum to that... you may have to configure through the browser and quit the browser for the cookies to be properly updated.

Greyghost 2008-04-09 18:16

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Originally Posted by heavyt (Post 167462)
In your GrandCentral Mobile web page Settings do you have your Gizmo number as your Mobile Number? If not try and see if that works for you.

Thanks for the tip, heavyt! This worked!! I am delighted. For the first time, I am able to use my IT as a 'phone'! To quote HJS, "Woo Hoo"!

Greyghost 2008-04-09 18:18

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Originally Posted by brontide (Post 167485)
Addendum to that... you may have to configure through the browser and quit the browser for the cookies to be properly updated.

Thanks brontide. I did configure the cookies through the browser but didn't have to quit it for it to work. I just kept the browser window open and re-submitted the form till I got the settings right.;)

Greyghost 2008-04-09 18:19

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Originally Posted by z2n (Post 166005)
I am pleased to announce the release of Grandcentral_Dialer, a GUI python front-end to simplify placing calls via Grandcentral.

Bravo, z2n!! This is a wonderful, simple app that really works. Thanks.

racky 2008-04-10 07:09

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Originally Posted by racky (Post 167238)
I do have the right settings at m.grandcental.com, and I can make the call by the old way, hit the name at the contact list, the name and the number show up, hit the number and Gimzo ring. I also rebooted, and left the web page open, nothing works. Any help?

I figured it out myself, I just need to install MicroB and now it is working perfectly. Thanks for the great software.:p

qole 2008-04-10 09:11

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Originally Posted by dkwatts (Post 166014)
The Nokia Internet Tablet IS now a PHONE.

Well, it is now an easy-to-use free wifi phone.

EDIT: It still isn't a free phone for us Canadians. Those who want to call us from their landlines have to call a US number or use a call-me button on a web page.

dkwatts 2008-04-10 12:33

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 167846)
Well, it is now an easy-to-use free wifi phone.

Also 100% free, easy-to-use when connected *via bluetooth* to a free unlimited high speed data plan.

dlhuss 2008-04-11 19:24

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Man, i get about a 1 in 20 hit rate on a connection.

Skype works flawlessly, btw. I guess I'll stick with 2 cents per minute

qole 2008-04-11 22:10

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Originally Posted by dkwatts (Post 167889)
Also 100% free, easy-to-use when connected *via bluetooth* to a free unlimited high speed data plan.

You mean you have an unlimited high speed data plan that costs nothing extra above and beyond the cost of all the competitors' vanilla voice-only plan?

You probably also have a perpetual motion machine powering your house...

Laughing Man 2008-04-12 02:54

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Depends on how much you really talk on the phone. Then again there's bound to be unlimited voice only plans as well.

dkwatts 2008-04-12 14:29

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 168633)
You mean you have an unlimited high speed data plan that costs nothing extra above and beyond the cost of all the competitors' vanilla voice-only plan?

You probably also have a perpetual motion machine powering your house...

They will amazingly throw in...

free nights and weekends,
free long distance,
free voice mail,
and free text messaging.
on top of the free unlimited high speed data plan.

ALL for the low, low, price of your vanilla voice-only plan!

slip 2008-04-12 15:32

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I have to relate a funny story. One day I was out of town and my cell phone battery died. I don't have a car-charger because I am rarely in the car. I needed to make a call, and it was impossible to find a pay phone! There were a bunch of wi-fi hotspots around, though, so I spent 30+ minutes configuring RTCOMM, Gizmo, and GC, just to make a 2 minute call!

mrlanrat 2008-04-12 17:20

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Originally Posted by dkwatts (Post 167889)
Also 100% free, easy-to-use when connected *via bluetooth* to a free unlimited high speed data plan.

What plan is this?

dkwatts 2008-04-12 18:54

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Originally Posted by mrlanrat (Post 168868)
What plan is this?

Read post
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Originally Posted by Vinh (Post 54615)
I signed up for the Sprint SERO 500 plan: 500 minutes anytime, unlimited nights/weekends 7PM-7AM, unlimited roaming, unlimited domestic long distance, unlimited mobile to mobile, unlimited data (not tetherable), and unlimited texting. $30/month... ~$37/month after taxes.
Data is on EvDO, so it's fast.

and
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Originally Posted by ImDisaster (Post 92253)
I use the Sprint SERO plan. Search for it on the FatWallet Hotdeals forum. It costs $30 a month total and includes 500 minutes talk, 7pm and weekends free, free Sprint to Sprint, Unlimited data, Unlimited text messages, Unlimited picture mail, and free roaming. It also includes some Sprint TV services and Handango stuff. That is the lowest plan level. From there you can go up in minutes for more $. I haven't seen a plan with unlimited data for as cheap anywhere.

You can find info, for how to use the n800, over DUN, without incurring further charges.


brecklundin 2008-04-12 19:47

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you can get UNLIMITED data over the Sprint network from Millenicom for $49.99/mo and no added fees or contract. They provide the Franklin CDU680 EVDO RevA modem. You would need an router with a USB port for the CDU680 but there are a couple of those from Cradlepoint, CTR350 or PHS300, that work excellently and are in the "travel/pocket router" class of wifi routers. So I take my mobile access with me everywhere and have no contract obligation nor do I need to worry about any tethering restrictions or issues. There is a $49.95 setup fee though. And if you do go with them save the original box and what not for the CDU680 because they want everything back. I have not asked directly but I was told by another Millenicom customer that after a year they consider the EVDO device yours. But I would never count on that part.

Also, I am sure Sprint has a SERO with truly unlimited data also and it may allow tethering...

brontide 2008-04-12 23:22

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SERO is hit and miss on a good day. You have to signup for the 2-years and then you have keep calling the CSR's trying to weasel "perks" onto the package. Sprint is notorious for dropping subscriber or canceling these perks without notice. Just head over to howard forums and check out the latest on the boondoogle. Yes some people got good deals, but it's not universal and there are plenty of horror stories as well.

brontide 2008-04-12 23:25

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Originally Posted by brecklundin (Post 168910)
you can get UNLIMITED data over the Sprint network from Millenicom for $49.99/mo

Their advertised price appears to have gone up to $59.99/month.

qole 2008-04-13 03:47

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Originally Posted by dkwatts (Post 168831)
They will amazingly throw in...

free nights and weekends,
free long distance,
free voice mail,
and free text messaging.
on top of the free unlimited high speed data plan.

ALL for the low, low, price of your vanilla voice-only plan!

Wow, the first reason I've wanted to move to the United States! Well, the second if you include Disney World.

EDIT: I was just informed that unlimited Disney World is not included with your vanilla tax plan. So scratch that.

qole 2008-04-13 04:01

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Originally Posted by slip (Post 168843)
I have to relate a funny story. One day I was out of town and my cell phone battery died. I don't have a car-charger because I am rarely in the car. I needed to make a call, and it was impossible to find a pay phone! There were a bunch of wi-fi hotspots around, though, so I spent 30+ minutes configuring RTCOMM, Gizmo, and GC, just to make a 2 minute call!

You sound like someone I could hang out with. :D

Munk 2008-04-13 04:04

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Hey z2n, first of all, thank you so much for bringing it all together with this front end gui. It's nothing short of awesome.

Second, as a suggestion here is a mock-up of what I think would make it more convenient. I know you are talking about integration with the contact list but I personally find it useless and slow on the Nokia and don't believe I'd use such a feature. So, take it with a grain of salt and maybe someone else could even add more to making it simple or more powerful.

My thoughts were:
1) The buttons were too long and actually made it more difficult to dial numbers.
2) The "dial" button seemed like it made more sense in the bottom right and color coded green for "go".
3) The destructive buttons are painted in red with "backspace" being right next to the number to be dialed.
4) The alphabetic letters that coincide with the numbers on a standard phone are added to the button for ease.
5) The text is bigger and all buttons have the same size and shape.
6) A previous call list allows you to tap on a number you dialed and it becomes the number you are about to dial. This list should not list duplicates as it could change all numbers into the same number and would therefore be useless.
7) It would be cool to hear a tone each button that is pressed but not necessary. I'd rather the program launch fast rather than eat up more memory and take longer to start.
8) Though it's not shown, a favorites would be awesome. Maybe if there are tabs available in Python you could switch between "Previous calls" and "Favorites"

Again, these are just my thoughts. Again thanks for such an awesome program.

mrlanrat 2008-04-13 05:23

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I like Munk 's Ideas. (nice screenshot, I know its edited) But it would be really nice if you could get something like that.

I personally would not like #7. But Im not going to be picky....

heavyt 2008-04-13 14:17

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I like Munk's suggestions #4,5,6.

johenkel 2008-04-16 17:36

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Absolutely useful !
Thanks you so much for the dialer application.
I am looking forward to the updates - love Munks 'screenshot'.

Thanks again !!!
johenkel

z2n 2008-04-16 19:19

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Originally Posted by Munk (Post 169046)
Hey z2n, first of all, thank you so much for bringing it all together with this front end gui. It's nothing short of awesome.

Glad you like it

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Originally Posted by Munk (Post 169046)
Second, as a suggestion here is a mock-up of what I think would make it more convenient. I know you are talking about integration with the contact list but I personally find it useless and slow on the Nokia and don't believe I'd use such a feature. So, take it with a grain of salt

Integration with any other app (including the default Nokia contact list) would almost certainly be done through the dbus service, and won't be happening until a couple of revisions from now.

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Originally Posted by Munk (Post 169046)
and maybe someone else could even add more to making it simple or more powerful.

Once again, the package is public domain...the GUI was designed with glade-3 and the program that processes the GUI is really simple python...my first python program, in fact. Anyone can mess with it.

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Originally Posted by Munk (Post 169046)
My thoughts were:
1) The buttons were too long and actually made it more difficult to dial numbers.
2) The "dial" button seemed like it made more sense in the bottom right and color coded green for "go".

I'm not certain about those ideas...but I'll play around.
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Originally Posted by Munk (Post 169046)
3) The destructive buttons are painted in red with "backspace" being right next to the number to be dialed.

yes
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Originally Posted by Munk (Post 169046)
4) The alphabetic letters that coincide with the numbers on a standard phone are added to the button for ease.

already done in my current development version.
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Originally Posted by Munk (Post 169046)
5) The text is bigger and all buttons have the same size and shape.

maybe
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Originally Posted by Munk (Post 169046)
6) A previous call list allows you to tap on a number you dialed and it becomes the number you are about to dial. This list should not list duplicates as it could change all numbers into the same number and would therefore be useless.

This is in the works. I'm not sure how to handle duplicates. I like your suggestion, but the other alternative is to handle the list as it appears on a cell phone...each number is listed, with information about the date & time the call was placed (not the duration, sorry), and whether the call was successful. In this case, you'd almost certainly have duplicated numbers, but you'd gain the information about when the calls were made.

Of course, that's available from the Grandcentral website as well, so perhaps eliminating the duplicates is a better choice.
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Originally Posted by Munk (Post 169046)
7) It would be cool to hear a tone each button that is pressed but not necessary. I'd rather the program launch fast rather than eat up more memory and take longer to start.

Not gonna happen...at least not anytime soon.

As far as how fast the program launches, I've found that installing and enabling the pylauncher daemon makes a big difference in the startup time for the dialer application.
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Originally Posted by Munk (Post 169046)
8) Though it's not shown, a favorites would be awesome. Maybe if there are tabs available in Python you could switch between "Previous calls" and "Favorites"

Hmm...this sounds a great deal like access to the contacts list. :)
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Originally Posted by Munk (Post 169046)
Again, these are just my thoughts. Again thanks for such an awesome program.


There's now a Maemo Garage project for the GC Dialer. At this moment, there are no files on the site, but please look there in the future for the current release and
the latest development version.

Greyghost 2008-04-18 18:34

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I've been using the GC dialer a bit since it was released. I love the idea and have no complaints about the bare-bones implementation, but have noticed a problem that hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread, so I'm curious to see if others are experiencing the same issue.

The problem is an echo. The few people I've called so far report that they can hear an annoying echo that makes it difficult for them to follow the conversation. Now, I can't hear it on the IT, but they certainly do on the other end. Has anyone else encountered this situation?

ShyBoy 2008-04-18 19:08

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Oh yes I got that in some of my calls, but definitely not all.

munky261 2008-04-19 01:35

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would love to see this be able to interface with gpe contacts... just tap a number and it would dial it.....or even better a whole new contacts program built around the dialer

brontide 2008-04-19 03:22

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Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 171836)
would love to see this be able to interface with gpe contacts... just tap a number and it would dial it.....or even better a whole new contacts program built around the dialer

GPE contacts, if designed properly, should open the URI for the number which can then be mapped to the correct application my maemo mime typing. For instance I had tel: mapped to my call application so that tapping on a phone number in my browser invoked a gc callback. I could have done the same with voip: URI and been able to intercept address book calls as well.

brontide 2008-04-19 03:24

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Originally Posted by Greyghost (Post 171686)
The problem is an echo. The few people I've called so far report that they can hear an annoying echo that makes it difficult for them to follow the conversation. Now, I can't hear it on the IT, but they certainly do on the other end. Has anyone else encountered this situation?

Since the GC dialer just initiates the call then I would doubt it has anything to do with the echo. Echo is usually from latency that is too high for some of the phone switches to deal with.

fredoll 2008-04-19 10:42

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Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 171836)
would love to see this be able to interface with gpe contacts... just tap a number and it would dial it.....or even better a whole new contacts program built around the dialer

GC Dialer could use ContactInfos DBus Service to get number from GPE or Built-in Contact.
There is an implementation of this call in phonelink already ...

mrlanrat 2008-04-23 04:55

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Any updates on the application?

z2n 2008-04-24 15:42

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I've made some changes to the GUI (minor at this point), and I'm working on implementing a list of most-recently-dialed-numbers as a drop-down menu. This isn't ready to release yet...but it will be available from the Maemo garage site for Grandcentral Dialer when it's ready.

The source code and installer package for the current version are there now. As always, contributions from other developers are welcome.

fredoll 2008-04-24 16:18

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I'll try and connect it with ContactInfos ... But I have to find DBus Call and Signal handling examples in Python first

mrlanrat 2008-06-06 05:30

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So any news on the new updated version?


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