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brontide 2008-06-24 20:18

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I know most of you want a .deb file, but I'm not there yet. I still need directions on building/maintaining it from z2n. This is not stopping me from continuing development.

Here is what will be in the next stable release.

1) Native login ( no browser weirdness, will probably run under the 770 as well ) - DONE

2) Bigger display, Fullscreen support ( all 2 lines needed to get it working ), Keyboard accelerators - DONE

3) 7 Digit dialing - just need to wire up the UI to the variable

4) Callback number changing. - just need to wire up the UI


At this point I'm just tweaking the UI so that everything works. The app will prompt you, when needed, for credentials. Settings will include the callback number as well as default area code prepended to 7-digit dialing.

Below is a screen cap from glade-3, but it should give you an idea of how KISS this will still be.

TrueJournals 2008-06-24 21:36

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The new screenshot looks great! The only small complaint I have is that the text on the buttons is REALLY small... It just looks out of proportion to the rest of the UI.

Looking forward to the new features, though. Good job on this!

brontide 2008-06-24 21:43

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Originally Posted by TrueJournals (Post 195249)
The new screenshot looks great! The only small complaint I have is that the text on the buttons is REALLY small... It just looks out of proportion to the rest of the UI.

One I get it fully back together I'll drop in customized labels so that the number is bigger and bold with the letters underneath. It looks more in proportion when it's running on the Nokia.

paps 2008-06-25 07:16

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hey, before I flash to Diablo, should I be worried about this dialer not working afterwards?

brontide 2008-06-25 12:03

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Originally Posted by paps (Post 195452)
hey, before I flash to Diablo, should I be worried about this dialer not working afterwards?

As far as I know there is not reason it would not run. As long as python can be installed it should run. Hell at this point it's a few lines away from running on windows as well.

bg4 2008-06-25 13:32

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gonna try this again as no one answered my question 1st time (best I can tell) and I was first to find the busy signal bug.

When I update to .5 the app disappears from extras directory. Any help?

mrlanrat 2008-06-25 14:04

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Originally Posted by bg4 (Post 195581)
When I update to .5 the app disappears from extras directory. Any help?

I'm having the same problem. I had to downgrade to .4

dkwatts 2008-06-25 14:22

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Originally Posted by paps (Post 195452)
hey, before I flash to Diablo, should I be worried about this dialer not working afterwards?

Currently using ver. 0.4 after the Diablo upgrade.

Greyghost 2008-06-25 14:53

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Originally Posted by brontide (Post 195252)
One I get it fully back together I'll drop in customized labels so that the number is bigger and bold with the letters underneath. It looks more in proportion when it's running on the Nokia.

I just want to add my thanks for the app and for your interest in user feedback and usability in general. I am looking forward to using the upgrade when you release a .deb.

slip 2008-06-25 19:00

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Originally Posted by bg4 (Post 195581)
gonna try this again as no one answered my question 1st time (best I can tell) and I was first to find the busy signal bug.

When I update to .5 the app disappears from extras directory. Any help?


There was a problem with the 0.5 release which resulted when two developers were working on it simultaneously (z2n and Brontide). Brontide is making significant improvements to the application, and is getting near to releasing the updated version. See his recent posts in this tread for details.

In the meantime, you are best off reinstalling a prior version (0.4 seems to work for some people, but I think requires that you close and reopen it each time you want to make a new call, due to the concatenation/busy signal issue), or waiting for a little while until Brontide and z2n can complete the new version.

brontide 2008-06-25 19:28

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Originally Posted by bg4 (Post 195581)
gonna try this again as no one answered my question 1st time (best I can tell) and I was first to find the busy signal bug.

When I update to .5 the app disappears from extras directory. Any help?

Also there is a trivial fix earlier in the thread that should fix the busy signal bug for 0.4. It requires editing two lines as root.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...&postcount=116

therock_80 2008-06-25 21:33

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how can i modify and save that file in N810 ?
I tried to use VI command to open and modify that line. After that ,i press ESC and ":wq". But i got "Write Error: Permission denied".
Help me please.

qole 2008-06-25 21:44

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Originally Posted by therock_80 (Post 195860)
But i got "Write Error: Permission denied".
Help me please.

You have to edit the file as root.

therock_80 2008-06-26 00:26

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yeah thansks for help.
i tried "sudo gainroot", but i doesnt work.
Then "ssh localhost -l root". it works though i dont understand inux command

therock_80 2008-06-27 05:31

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today i got error "dialing attempt unsucessful" help pl

brontide 2008-06-27 13:21

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Quick update.

Development is progressing, still need to implement the recent tab ( pulls from your GC inbox, so no storing number on the tablet ). All the basic functions work like a charm. I have one or two people playing with early builds to catch any obvious problems ( and they have found some ).

Right now I do not have a way of building the .deb files, so please don't ask ( I would have already if I could ).

The backend code is also growing quickly into it's own library that can be used to control GC from any python instance and this will be *QUITE* handy. Right now it can be used for callback handling and could be used to script Asterisk. I can see it handling phone selection, DnD, and quickrule settings easily with a few regular expressions.

Does anyone know a good tool for screenshots under Diablo? I don't see osso-screenshot-tool or vnc server anywhere and that's what the directions I can find are based on.

brontide 2008-06-27 13:22

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Originally Posted by therock_80 (Post 196485)
today i got error "dialing attempt unsucessful" help pl

If you are using .4 without the patch then you need to exit and restart the dialer after each call.

Never mind me, that's a different error message. Go into MicroB and make sure you are logged in to m.grandcentral.com.

brontide 2008-06-27 13:33

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Ok, here they are. Hot off the tablet a few moments ago.

paps 2008-06-27 14:01

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Originally Posted by therock_80 (Post 196485)
today i got error "dialing attempt unsucessful" help pl

yea, i got the same thing which is better than no message window from earlier versions. Is there any work being done to save the cookie file so that logging into mobile.grandcentral.com isn't necessary? It's a minor inconvenience so I don't think it's a high priority, but l'm looking forward to the next release.

paps 2008-06-27 14:04

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Originally Posted by brontide (Post 196615)
Ok, here they are. Hot off the tablet a few moments ago.

The screenshot looks great! Is the dialpad going to be available for use during an outgoing call now? Do we still have to use the internet call one or is the dialer moving towards simulating the function?

brontide 2008-06-27 14:18

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Originally Posted by paps (Post 196631)
The screenshot looks great! Is the dialpad going to be available for use during an outgoing call now? Do we still have to use the internet call one or is the dialer moving towards simulating the function?

The dialpad has no effect during calls, that's a limitation of the built in VoIP client.

It's theoretically possible, but would require replacing the entire VoIP UI and not something I would undertake.

brontide 2008-06-27 14:20

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Originally Posted by paps (Post 196630)
yea, i got the same thing which is better than no message window from earlier versions. Is there any work being done to save the cookie file so that logging into mobile.grandcentral.com isn't necessary? It's a minor inconvenience so I don't think it's a high priority, but l'm looking forward to the next release.

This is 100% fixed in the next version. It has it's own mini browser that keeps it's own cookies and authentication.

paps 2008-06-27 15:17

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Originally Posted by brontide (Post 196638)
The dialpad has no effect during calls, that's a limitation of the built in VoIP client.

It's theoretically possible, but would require replacing the entire VoIP UI and not something I would undertake.

Yea, hold off on building an entire new Voip app for the tablet:D Is it alternatively possible to do any of the following:

1. After placing a call, the dialpad could be linked somehow to the internet call's dialpad to send the tones, or

2. Once a call is placed, the internet call app opens, but instead of clicking on the menu and selecting dialpad, it is automatically opened for the user.

If none of those are simple to implement don't waste your time. Just a lazy suggestion.

heavyt 2008-06-27 16:29

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Originally Posted by paps (Post 196663)
Yea, hold off on building an entire new Voip app for the tablet:D Is it alternatively possible to do any of the following:

1. After placing a call, the dialpad could be linked somehow to the internet call's dialpad to send the tones, or

2. Once a call is placed, the internet call app opens, but instead of clicking on the menu and selecting dialpad, it is automatically opened for the user.

If none of those are simple to implement don't waste your time. Just a lazy suggestion.

If you make a call using GC system GC does not provide tone sending. So a link to any dialpad will not work.

OK I just tried changing the callback Number to my home number and found that tone dialing WORKS. :o The call was handled by Level Two Network.

heavyt 2008-06-27 17:22

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Originally Posted by brontide (Post 196615)
Ok, here they are. Hot off the tablet a few moments ago.

That Account page is a great tool! Now we will not have to worry about GC cookies, and we can change 'Callback number' on the fly (all from one application/tab) Slick. :cool:

Greyghost 2008-06-27 17:54

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I just want to add my thanks to brontide for this effort. The app works well enough now, but the new improved version looks, well..new and improved, esp the account function. Keep up the good work.

BTW, did I see that you are not going to post .debs for this or did I misunderstand (a frequent occurance:eek:)?

brontide 2008-06-27 18:43

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Things are looking up. I got the rundown from z2n on how to package up the .deb I will probably be releasing a version within 24 hours. I don't think "recent" will make the cut for this release, there are just too many things that I don't quite know how to make work.

Thanks for everyone that's given feedback do far.

My goal is to nail down loose ends and push all new features for 0.7 and that should include.

1) Bugfixes ( anything that we find )

2) Recents - Downloaded from you inbox on the fly.

3) osso integration so that Maemo can shutdown the app seamlessly when it needs ram

4) Adding a URI for activating the app ( so, say GCDIAL:8005551212 would activate the application and try dialing ).

Longer term stuff are going to generally center around expanding the backend library, possibly splitting it out for other projects to use as well. Spinning off a desktop/gtk version will be big on my list as well. There are just enough differences that make it hard to keep 1 version of the app.

therock_80 2008-06-27 19:06

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Originally Posted by brontide (Post 196639)
This is 100% fixed in the next version. It has it's own mini browser that keeps it's own cookies and authentication.

Thank you o'll wait for next release.
I wish dialer will call direct to phone number, not through Internet Call (where i had to accept incomming call from GC number)
Dial a number--> wait for Internet Call pop up-->click accept-->then call start ring(sometime not)

therock_80 2008-06-27 19:11

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Also, i like this dial pad pop up everytime i receive a call so i can select 1 to accept the call ( for GC + gizmo user). We should separate this application from Internet Call.

brontide 2008-06-27 19:24

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Originally Posted by therock_80 (Post 196754)
Also, i like this dial pad pop up everytime i receive a call so i can select 1 to accept the call ( for GC + gizmo user). We should separate this application from Internet Call.

Not to be mean, but this is not possible without rewriting the VoIP client.

I suggest you submit your feature request to Nokia so they can implement a more sane VoIP client.

brontide 2008-06-27 19:25

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Originally Posted by therock_80 (Post 196752)
Thank you o'll wait for next release.
I wish dialer will call direct to phone number, not through Internet Call (where i had to accept incomming call from GC number)
Dial a number--> wait for Internet Call pop up-->click accept-->then call start ring(sometime not)

It's really outside of the scope of this application to expect that kind of integration.

heavyt 2008-06-27 19:27

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Originally Posted by therock_80 (Post 196752)
Thank you o'll wait for next release.
I wish dialer will call direct to phone number, not through Internet Call (where i had to accept incomming call from GC number)
Dial a number--> wait for Internet Call pop up-->click accept-->then call start ring(sometime not)

The dialer is just a "front" for GC which works as a callback system. When you make a call via GC (dialer or GC web page) the call is made then "patch" (it rings your callback number) to a number you have selected as your callback number.

Did not see your response brontide

karlwood 2008-06-27 21:33

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Hi, could someone send me an invite for GC? I signed up months ago but never heard anything. Thanks very much (karlwood at gmail)

therock_80 2008-06-27 22:10

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Originally Posted by karlwood (Post 196831)
Hi, could someone send me an invite for GC? I signed up months ago but never heard anything. Thanks very much (karlwood at gmail)

GC disable INVITE function

munky261 2008-06-28 02:34

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is anyone else having problems with the dialer on diablo? everything installs and starts fine but when i dial a number i get nothing...logged into GC mobile..is there something that im not doing that i need to?

slip 2008-06-28 02:55

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Munky261- If you have installed version 0.5_1, then that may be the problem. If you flip back a couple of pages in this thread you'll see the details, but essentially the 0.5 release was...let say "blemished". A new developer (Brontide) has been working on making vast improvements to the overall project, including log-in directly to GC (as opposed to requiring a cookie from mobile GC), list of recent calls pulled from the GC inbox/recent call list, and on-the-fly callback number changing. It's in a bit of a holding pattern at the moment (it just been a few days, though), but brontide seems to be fairly close to releasing a .deb, with the assistance of z2n, the original creator of the wonderful GCDialer.

And that, my friend, is the short history of where we are right now. Hold tight for a couple more days and I'm sure you'll be satisfied by the result. (Screenshots of the new version were posted earlier in this thread too, to give you a teaser of what to expect.)

munky261 2008-06-28 03:03

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i read that...but, the newest version worked perfectly fine for me before upgrading to diablo yesterday

brontide 2008-06-28 03:16

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did you install wget?

brontide 2008-06-28 03:17

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Oh, barring calamity, 0.6 should be out tomorrow and it's a huge rewrite that will solve a number of the known problems ( and probably introduce a few more ).

Greyghost 2008-06-28 03:44

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Originally Posted by brontide (Post 196948)
Oh, barring calamity, 0.6 should be out tomorrow and it's a huge rewrite that will solve a number of the known problems ( and probably introduce a few more ).

I'll bet against calamity...:D

Thanks again for your efforts!


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