Re: Vala for Maemo development
 

It's still a bit of a hack (I've made progress on interfacing in an OO way to libvala from Java, but it's not usable yet), but code complete now contains local variables, type information, restrict-as-you-type and restrict-based-on-preceding-characters and pretty icons as you get in Java:

http://bleb.org/software/valable/valable-4.png

All pushed up to my branch, and this'll probably become the trunk of Valable in the next couple of days once some Launchpad admin gets taken care of.

Re: Vala for Maemo development
 

More spam from me about the latest push up to my branch. Some bugs fixed with the recompilation of projects on start-up, and I've done a first pass over the implementation of the sparkling new outline view:

http://bleb.org/software/valable/valable-5.png

Bundyo, since I couldn't get Monodevelop working - what's missing from Valable which monodevelop does? Would be good to have feature parity before polishing the features ;-)

PS. Interestingly (FSVO "interesting"), that screenshot also shows a minor issue with keyword detection, in that "set_contents" should be just "set_contents"; but "set" is a keyword in Vala.

Re: Vala for Maemo development
 

Like you don't have enough to do, but...

What about a 15 minute vala intro session at the summit?

Re: Vala for Maemo development
 

Probably nothing :) Though Monodevelop didn't got fully working anyway (no working code completion if there are big VAPI files in there). The code browser is a little strange - it doesn't show the current file but instead the VAPI files. I'm using it more like a reference :)

Re: Vala for Maemo development
 

It's a good idea. I don't know the language well enough myself at the moment, and my Hildon-based apps with it have been too noddy to release; however I'd be happy to help out anyone (Bundyo? Tak?) who does lots of Vala development with a tooling demo.

Re: Vala for Maemo development
 

Seconded. I'm currently trying to learn/use vala as well and imho this would be the killer language for the tablet (python fans keep calm..).
I'd volunteer, but I'm a java/C# guy. Related, but different in too much things and I'll probably fail to become a guru in the next 2 month..

Any takers though?

Re: Vala for Maemo development
 

I don't do lots :) I have two small apps, veeery small :). I'm foreign to GTK too and i keep meeting with the need of a X VAPI. However, this can't be done without a simple additional parser to at least specify which function is in which header (since vapigen doesn't bother to specify it). So I'm just beginning :) Maybe I'll have something to talk about in September, but i can't tell for sure now. :(

EDIT: Forgot to tell i'm all for a Vala talk and how it can help the tablet development evolve (not by me though :)).

Re: Vala for Maemo development
 

Check out Genie. It's an alternate front-end language to Vala, compiled using the same compiler, with a Python-esque syntax.

Re: Vala for Maemo development
 

Woo, I have genie without even knowing it - my vala compiler turned out to be new enough, so I can write Genie programs without installing anything extra! Just start writing code with a .gs file extension.

Re: Vala for Maemo development
 

Ok, help? Monodevelop failed miserably on Ubuntu. Eclipse has no clue how to plug in valable. vala won't install on the tablet 'cause it needs c-compiler which isn't available.

Any clues or should I start learning in joe and valac on the desktop?