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bigdigg 2008-04-14 20:28
New N800 with 'Power On' issue...
 
I got my new N800, put the battery in, put the memory card in, plugged it up, let it charge for a little while. Being the impatient person I am, I start it up before it says it's fully charged, play around with it, turn it off to let it recharge faster (mistake #1). Then it came on again, then turned it off (I don't know why I kept turning it off), after that I had problems, I got it to come on again, then I turned it off I think, then charged it (said it was charging), then unplugged charger, and it has never came on since. Even when the charger is plugged in, it doesn't say "charging" or anything. I tried putting it in the fridge for about 15 minutes, taking the battery out and in a lot, plugging it up for a little to let it charge (if it is charging anymore), etc.

What do I do to get this thing on? How would I upgrade to the latest version of OS2008, the 51.3? (I have OS2007 now, it sucks) If my device can't come on, then how can the computer recognize it so I can update it? Help. Thanks.

Maximos 2008-04-14 20:33
Re: New N800 with 'Power On' issue...
 
Wow man, our units are practically identical. Where did you order from, and when did you receive it?

I got mine today from Dell. I put the battery and the supplied SD card in, turned it on, set the time, and checked out how Wikipedia looks on it. After that, I decided just to go and update the OS. At this point, I turned it off.

I have tried leaving the battery out, leaving the unit plugged in, and powering it on several times to no avail. It is currently in the fridge.

No 'charging' screen comes up if I leave it plugged in, either.

Please if anyone can give some help, that would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

at_n008 2008-04-14 21:28
Re: New N800 with 'Power On' issue...
 
Had same issue last week when I got my.
1st put the batter in, then memory card, external memory card side one, let it charge few hours, then unplugged charger then power unit on no logo black screen. Then I did same thing took battery out put it in freezzer in a bag. After while took it out put it in the unit plug in the charger no led screen now gets mad or upset at it.
Then Gave my up and return it back now I get my new one this week. This is going to be my 2nd unit.

Maximos 2008-04-14 21:35
Re: New N800 with 'Power On' issue...
 
I got mine up by letting it chill for a good 25-30 minutes...will report after I flash with OS2008.

edit: Successfully flashed to OS2008 - device functions perfectly so far. I just turned it off and then on, it seems great. Do not give up guys.

Utilise this life-saving post:
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
Stick the device on the charger and leave it there. It'll eventually power itself on into charging mode, after that, follow these instructions exactly:

Install xterm and becomeroot

1. Boot the device normally by holding down the power button, you can unplug the charger once the device is booted.
2. After the device is booted, you need to install xterm.
3. Tapping HERE on the tablet should install xterm for you.
4. Tap HERE to install the becomeroot package.

Reboot the Device

1. Assuming xterm installed correctly, then open it up (should be in Extras in the Application Menu).
2. Plug the device into one of the USB ports on your computer.
3. Since reboot requires a root shell, type sudo gainroot and hit enter.
4. After you have a root shell, type reboot and hit enter.
5. Then as soon as you hit enter, begin holding down the Home key, and don't let go until you see a USB logo in the upper right of the Nokia splash screen.

Flash the Device

1. If you see the USB logo at the Nokia splash screen, then the device is now waiting to be flashed.
2. Go ahead and plug the barrel charger in in case the download takes a long time.
3. Now, start the flasher and let it flash the device.


After the flasher's done, the device will be running the latest firmware and you should have no more problems powering on.
Remember to chill it for a good amount of time, turn it on, and go. Good luck.

bigdigg 2008-04-15 03:14
Re: New N800 with 'Power On' issue...
 
Well I messed with it today, and nothing, I took it to work with me, and plugged it up, and then my friend at work was holding it and pulled the stylus out and it turned on, so I hugged him.

Now it is on, and I charged it, and I dare not turn it off until I know for sure it can come on when I hold the Swap key and Power key down to get the USB logo in the top right when I use the Update Wizard to get the latest version of OS2008 (that is supposed to fix this problem).

How can I get it so I know for sure it can come on again in the USB mode to update it, or can I update it now while it's on normally?

What is all that xterm and becomeroot stuff?

P.S. I got mine from Dell too.

Maximos 2008-04-15 03:24
Re: New N800 with 'Power On' issue...
 
Just take my word for it and follow the instructions...in the end, you will be relieved and happy that you did.

xterm is just so you can get root access. You see, you are not turning it off, you are just rebooting it.

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-15 03:25
Re: New N800 with 'Power On' issue...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdigg (Post 169944)
How can I get it so I know for sure it can come on again in the USB mode to update it, or can I update it now while it's on normally?
Post was not quoted correctly, here it is with working links.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...32&postcount=2

Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 148932)
Stick the device on the charger and leave it there. It'll eventually power itself on into charging mode, after that, follow these instructions exactly:

Install xterm and becomeroot
  1. Boot the device normally by holding down the power button, you can unplug the charger once the device is booted.
  2. After the device is booted, you need to install xterm.
  3. Tapping HERE on the tablet should install xterm for you.
  4. Tap HERE to install the becomeroot package.
Reboot the Device
  1. Assuming xterm installed correctly, then open it up (should be in Extras in the Application Menu).
  2. Plug the device into one of the USB ports on your computer.
  3. Since reboot requires a root shell, type sudo gainroot and hit enter.
  4. After you have a root shell, type reboot and hit enter.
  5. Then as soon as you hit enter, begin holding down the Home key, and don't let go until you see a USB logo in the upper right of the Nokia splash screen.
Flash the Device
  1. If you see the USB logo at the Nokia splash screen, then the device is now waiting to be flashed.
  2. Go ahead and plug the barrel charger in in case the download takes a long time.
  3. Now, start the flasher and let it flash the device.

After the flasher's done, the device will be running the latest firmware and you should have no more problems powering on.

Maximos 2008-04-15 03:27
Re: New N800 with 'Power On' issue...
 
Ah, I see that the links did not make it. Allow me to link you to the original thread:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...932#post148932

bigdigg 2008-04-15 03:47
Re: New N800 with 'Power On' issue...
 
So from my Tablet I click the first two 'HERE' links (from my tablet's browser) and it will install these two things.

Then I follow the instructions and at step 3 of the third part, I start the official Nokia Internet Tablet Update Wizard? Then after thats done I have the latest OS2008 firmware (the 51-3 one that solves the Power On problem?)

So bassicaly the xterm and what not is to reboot the device so that it DOES come on 100%, and not take a chance on turning it off and then hoping it comes on so I can update it? Am I even close?

I should follow all the instructions listed from within my tablet, and then plug it up and at the end start the update wizard? After that I am done?

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-15 03:57
Re: New N800 with 'Power On' issue...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdigg (Post 169956)
So from my Tablet I click the first two 'HERE' links (from my tablet's browser) and it will install these two things.
Yes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdigg (Post 169956)
Then I follow the instructions and at step 3 of the third part, I start the official Nokia Internet Tablet Update Wizard? Then after thats done I have the latest OS2008 firmware (the 51-3 one that solves the Power On problem?)
Yes, I didn't cover the specifics of flashing because it's a little different for every platform.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdigg (Post 169956)
So bassicaly the xterm and what not is to reboot the device so that it DOES come on 100%, and not take a chance on turning it off and then hoping it comes on so I can update it? Am I even close?
Yes, rebooting from xterm will avoid the race condition that prevents power-on.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdigg (Post 169956)
I should follow all the instructions listed from within my tablet, and then plug it up and at the end start the update wizard? After that I am done?
Yes, you will be up-to-date and never experience the power issue ever again.

Just be sure to follow the instructions exactly as entered, they're constructed specifically to avoid the power-on issue so reflashing will be easy and guess-work free, but deviation from them can drop you back to square one. ;)

bigdigg 2008-04-15 04:21
Re: New N800 with 'Power On' issue...
 
Thank you so much, that solved all of my problems (I think, I haven't turn it off to find out, I will just leave it on, saves battery to idle it). I now have the latest 51-3 OS2008 and I love it!


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