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qgil 2008-04-15 10:17

4. maemo.org: what next?
 
See 4. MAEMO.ORG: WHAT NEXT? at http://maemo.org/community/wiki/linuxtag2008/

We are looking for the last invited speaker to Linuxtag, someone to provide a view on the future of the maemo community (as a whole, not just the maemo.org website).

Invited means that Nokia covers travel, accommodation and registration to the event. Speaker means 5-10 minuts of presentation in a shared session with other speakers and lots of questions and comments coming from the rest of participants.

Proposal: let's invite an ITT ambassador. There would be a discussion in this thread and someone would summarize it in Berlin. This "someone" would be selected here as well, by you.

Some conditions/recommendations:

- Due to budget restrictions needs to be based in Europe.
- Popular contributor to ITT.
- Open source enthusiast.

We need the name asap! It is up to you how you choose it. He or she needs to confirm here, otherwise we keep having recommendations on people that can't attend.

Then you have several weeks to discuss, until end of May.

Thank you - we hope you like the proposal.

Alpha4 2008-04-15 10:35

Re: 4. maemo.org: what next?
 
I vote GeneralAntilles. He seems to know what he's talking about (or is he already going?).

qwerty12 2008-04-15 10:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha4 (Post 170042)
I vote GeneralAntilles. He seems to know what he's talking about (or is he already going?).


- Due to budget restrictions needs to be based in Europe.

But I don't think he's going based on what I heard on IRC. It would be good if he was though :)

Texrat 2008-04-15 11:37

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I would say Milhouse or Jaffa, except apparently their removal from the other sections means they could not confirm according to one comment. I was really hoping for fanoush but he seems to be a hard sell (:p). There are plenty of people not based in Europe I could propose but that's already out. So... right now I'm stuck. But not giving up. I will continue thinking on this...

Hey, what about Karel? :D

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-15 12:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 170049)
There are plenty of people not based in Europe I could propose but that's already out. So... right now I'm stuck.

Yeah, Jaffa and milhouse (the two candidates I was really pushing) seem to be unavailable (well, Jaffa is for sure, but I'm not sure about milhouse—he seems to have just been deleted from the wiki) and everybody else has either already confirmed their unavailability or based elsewhere.

/me is out of recommendations.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 170049)
Hey, what about Karel? :D

Vocal critics are one thing, but I fear he might drag the whole convention into a very severe clinical depression. :D

Jaffa 2008-04-15 12:29

Re: 4. maemo.org: what next?
 
Family commitments on the Friday, Saturday and Sunday; unfortunately.

Mrs. Jaffa looked for trains, planes and automobiles but the logistics just wouldn't fit. I've got some thoughts on the topic (which I'd've tried to formalise into a few slides/discussion) which I'll try and get a coherent email or blog post about.

Hopefully, maemo, LinuxTag and me will be around next year :-)

zerojay 2008-04-15 14:09

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Too bad. Sounds like a cool opportunity... so long as you don't have a fear of public speaking. ;)

bunanson 2008-04-15 21:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 170038)
See 4. MAEMO.ORG: WHAT NEXT? at http://maemo.org/community/wiki/linuxtag2008/
...
Then you have several weeks to discuss, until end of May.
...

Well, the choice of the ambassador is going to take some time, we should start the discussion.....NOW. We should start to formulate about how/when/why/where is iTT with respect to Maemo (or Tablet or Nokia).

I will start first, I wish our ambassador is able to propel the iTT into becoming an official function for either the maemo or the Nokia tablet, i.e, we will be able to demand/request/seek explanation/complaints/suggestions from Nokia/maemo. The current situation is like ma$terbation, we can scream our guts out, the next tablet is still not going the way this community thinks it should be, and the maemo.org intermittent 'down' etc.

bun

Texrat 2008-04-15 22:01

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I nominate the bunster. :D

GeraldKo 2008-04-15 22:14

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fanoush is based in Europe (Prague, I think) and seems to know one hell of a lot.

bunanson 2008-04-15 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 170264)
fanoush is based in Europe (Prague, I think) and seems to know one hell of a lot.

I second.

bun

Bundyo 2008-04-15 22:47

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+1 for fanoush if he's available.

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-16 03:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 170264)
fanoush is based in Europe (Prague, I think) and seems to know one hell of a lot.

fanoush was brought up a long time ago and he's unavailable.

GeraldKo 2008-04-16 03:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 170350)
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo View Post
fanoush is based in Europe (Prague, I think) and seems to know one hell of a lot.
fanoush was brought up a long time ago and he's unavailable.

General Antilles, how about you? You've been brought up in this thread already, but I haven't seen a response. Have you declined yet? Or are you available?

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-16 03:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 170355)
General Antilles, how about you? You've been brought up in this thread already, but I haven't seen a response. Have you declined yet? Or are you available?

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 170043)
- Due to budget restrictions needs to be based in Europe.

Either way, I'm limited in time and money (even assuming Nokia would pay my way there, I still need a passport and whatnot ;)). The recommendations are quite flattering, though. :)

mooler 2008-04-16 04:13

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I thinks it great that we are nominating an ambassador to Linuxtag. I nominate The General even though he said he isnt going.

fanoush 2008-04-16 08:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 170350)
fanoush was brought up a long time ago and he's unavailable.

Yes, I can't go, end of May - no chance.

linuxrebel 2008-04-16 08:46

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@Fanoush

Yeah if they just had the video voip working with the n8XX you could give the presentation via n8XX (which IMHO would be cool as heck) ;)

I hope of course that ya'll take this as playfully as it was meant.

Rebski 2008-04-16 10:24

Re: 4. maemo.org: what next?
 
How about speculatrix? He can bring a wealth of Zaurus based experience to the event.

The fact that my Zaurus gets used more than my N800 is testimony to the paucity of useful NIT software so a practical example of the platform’s potential might provide positive input for the Maemo developers.

Something has to be done in this regard, that’s for sure.

Benson 2008-04-16 14:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by linuxrebel (Post 170412)
@Fanoush

Yeah if they just had the video voip working with the n8XX you could give the presentation via n8XX (which IMHO would be cool as heck) ;)

I hope of course that ya'll take this as playfully as it was meant.

Surely they can get a noBounds prototype there, to put it on the big screen... ;)

lardman 2008-04-16 15:04

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The fact that my Zaurus gets used more than my N800 is testimony to the paucity of useful NIT software so a practical example of the platform’s potential might provide positive input for the Maemo developers.
That's interesting, what sorts of things do you use on the Zaurus that aren't available on the ITs?

tabletrat 2008-04-16 15:53

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Why not get a list of people who can and want to go and then vote for them?
It would be easier than just picking people at random

nilchak 2008-04-16 16:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lardman (Post 170538)
That's interesting, what sorts of things do you use on the Zaurus that aren't available on the ITs?

There was an old thread where many zaurus users had mentioned their favourite apps they would like ported to developed for the Nokia NIT

Texrat 2008-04-16 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebski (Post 170440)
The fact that my Zaurus gets used more than my N800 is testimony to the paucity of useful NIT software so a practical example of the platform’s potential might provide positive input for the Maemo developers.

It's amazing how different perspectives can be.

There are more apps for the tablets than *I* will ever use.

tabletrat 2008-04-16 20:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 170719)
There are more apps for the tablets than *I* will ever use.

There are more apps for the tables than I will ever use too, but there are still some that dont exist that i would like.
There are many more programs still missing.

Texrat 2008-04-16 20:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tabletrat (Post 170734)
There are more apps for the tables than I will ever use too, but there are still some that dont exist that i would like.
There are many more programs still missing.

Right, but again: that's perspective. I don't share yours... you don't share mine. On this subject anyway. ; )

Hey... there's a topic for a maemo speaker... :D

tabletrat 2008-04-16 20:55

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heheh - need a new thread for 'topics for speaker'!

So you don't share the perspective that there are applications that people want that don't exist?
I had a look at that zarus thread, and some of those programs are fairly trivial to impliment.
My 810 turned up today, so I guess I better get off my backside and put some effort into writing something instead of just whinging!

Texrat 2008-04-16 21:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tabletrat (Post 170751)
So you don't share the perspective that there are applications that people want that don't exist?

Ummm... not what I said. I mean your perspective that translates into need (or want, actually). I.e., I don't need all those apps. ;)

bunanson 2008-04-16 21:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 170719)
...There are more apps for the tablets than *I* will ever use.


Dont know about apps, but certainly "there are more TV stations for the tablets than *I* will ever watch"

Sorry, cant help to throw in a quip about your comments, albeit, a cheap one :)


bun

qgil 2008-04-18 18:43

Re: 4. maemo.org: what next?
 
At the end I went the non-democratic way and decided to invite Sebastian Mancke, of JaLiMo fame. He is a professional developer and he is jumping also on OpenMoko and other Linux based platforms. It will be interesting to know how maemo looks in hi potential future. He is involved in the LinuxTag organization and he plans to be there. ;)

Jaffa 2008-04-20 19:21

Re: 4. maemo.org: what next?
 
Between being invited and deciding that, on balance, I couldn't go; I started thinking about what I'd talk about.

Some of those thoughts are now here:

http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php..._org_what_next

Comments, as ever, welcome.

Bundyo 2008-05-29 14:39

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Maemo.org Brainstorm

News here:
http://maemo.org/news/announcements/...rainstorm.html

Should we organize first before the attack? :)

anidel 2008-05-29 14:42

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yes, we should.
But it's a wiki, it can be modified over time.. but having a common starting point will help

Bundyo 2008-05-29 14:49

Re: 4. maemo.org: what next?
 
Maybe we should start another thread just about that, it's not very clear right now.


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