Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM
 

Okay, well, that's what I was expecting, but I downloaded the linked script and I got breezy, dapper, hardy, gutsty, sid, woody, etc.

Hmmm. I'll go directly to their server, grab the package and try again.

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM
 

[root@Debian: /]midbrowser

(midbrowser:1751): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.
Segmentation fault


Help! this is only one example. almost every app gives me Segmentation fault :(

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM
 

I just want to say that my overall feeling of mojo-ubuntu is one of disappointment. The number of available packages, compared to Debian, is tiny (no OpenOffice, and things like Gimp are older versions), and even the few unique packages don't install well. The most interesting package, moblin-media, can't install due to missing gstreamer plugins (bad and ugly). So far, the only package I've found that's remotely interesting to me is Firefox. It seems a bit more responsive than Iceweasel, and that might be because it is compiled for a newer version of the ARM instruction set.

So, overall, unless someone can give me a compelling reason to keep hammering away with this, I'm going back to good ol' Debian. It seems to have lots and lots of toys to keep me happy.

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM
 

This would be good, because it is faster...

Is it possible to hack apt-get to accept armel repos and dpkg to use --force-architechture as a default option?

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM
 

I got bored with this...

Ubuntu is really experimental and sometimes everything runs okay, sometimes i cannot install anything... they will soon release interpid ibex (don't know whay it will be called...) I will try it, but for now, debian is the best choise.

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM
 

Maybe you can recompile Firefox/Iceweasel (3.1?) as optimized build and pack this as .deb to achieve a better performance?

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM
 

Just installed the Ubuntu version of OpenGL on the tablet, and yes, I can confirm that Ubuntu apps run faster than Debian ones. GLX Gears, the famous OpenGL test program, gets only 9-12 fps under Debian, but a fairly steady 15.5 fps under Ubuntu.

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM
 

I know, I said I wasn't going to play with it anymore; I lied. I wanted to see if the extra bit of speed helped some of the games that Ubuntu has available...

Here is a tarball of the Mojo Ubuntu rootfs with Firefox installed (99 MB). It also has the basic stuff in place (GTK stylus support, HW key stuff like fullscreen and popup keyboard) to use it effectively with the Easy Debian package. No Flash support. I think it has the OpenGL stuff in it, I can't remember if I installed that stuff before or after I made the tarball. Anyway, you can find out by running "debbie glxgears" and see what happens.

To use this (with Easy Debian), you really need to make a partition, untar the filesystem into it, then point your ~/.chroot file at the Ubuntu partition.

Some silly game stuff:

• Full Quake 2 is really nice looking (SDL software rendering, not GL). Runs fast!
• Armagetron (uses OpenGL) is just barely playable at 4-5 fps. Somehow I find this game addicting, even at this speed...
• Alien Arena (uses OpenGL) starts up, gets about 5fps at the menus, but won't finish loading a level.

Some tech details:

• I don't have alsa set up. You'll have to do that yourself, or wait for a possible next-generation tarball that I might put up if people show some interest.
• I've added all of the mojo distributions to the sources.list, because some stuff, like Quake2, was dropped from later versions of Ubuntu, but it is still there in the older distributions.
• Enabling the mamona distribution can lead to some serious problems, because Ubuntu and Mamona seem to have slightly different package names in many cases, and that can lead to all sorts of conflicts in dependencies.
• Enabling the Debian distribution is even worse. It downloads arm packages (instead of armel) no matter what you tell it the architecture is. One possibility here is to download just the missing packages from Debian armel and dpkg -i install them, using --force-architecture and --force-depends (because the Debian version numbers tend to be higher than the Ubuntu Hardy numbers). I tried this for the gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad package, but it is a long and arduous process, and I just ran out of steam before I got finished...

Browse the Ubuntu repositories and see if there's anything you'd like (me) to test out.

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM
 

I said too i got bored, but i am so intrested in ubuntu mobile, that last 3 days i have been playing with it. It really is good UI for small devices like NITs. There are many missing packages that can simply be force installed from debian repos, like locales-all. It gives you all the locales.

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM
 

Johnx and I are slowly working on a proof of concept of Maemo Reconstructed (http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Reconstructed - please keep the discussion to technical issues on the wiki, not high level goals such as open source everything in GPLv3 or "A2DP" and such, you can put those in this thread instead :P it's a system level discussion, not world domination discussion).. based on mojo for now to see if it's feasible to have a generic Maemo platform (with room for other things than Hildon.)

But if you do have a genuine clue about system architecture or comments about SDK and such, feel free to contribute.

Just wanted to let you know.