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Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

Thanks for the tarball qole!

Today i just debootstrapped and installed all the ubuntumobile packages via my schools fast internet. Then i came home and every single app says segmentation fault :( I have HORRIBLY slow internet connection here, so i hate to start all over again...

So, this time i am going to use your tarball instead of debootstrapping. :)

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 240050)

I know, I said I wasn't going to play with it anymore; I lied. I wanted to see if the extra bit of speed helped some of the games that Ubuntu has available...

Here is a tarball of the Mojo Ubuntu rootfs with Firefox installed (99 MB). It also has the basic stuff in place (GTK stylus support, HW key stuff like fullscreen and popup keyboard) to use it effectively with the Easy Debian package. No Flash support. I think it has the OpenGL stuff in it, I can't remember if I installed that stuff before or after I made the tarball. Anyway, you can find out by running "debbie glxgears" and see what happens.

To use this (with Easy Debian), you really need to make a partition, untar the filesystem into it, then point your ~/.chroot file at the Ubuntu partition.

Some silly game stuff:

Full Quake 2 is really nice looking (SDL software rendering, not GL). Runs fast!
Armagetron (uses OpenGL) is just barely playable at 4-5 fps. Somehow I find this game addicting, even at this speed...
Alien Arena (uses OpenGL) starts up, gets about 5fps at the menus, but won't finish loading a level.

Some tech details:

I don't have alsa set up. You'll have to do that yourself, or wait for a possible next-generation tarball that I might put up if people show some interest.
I've added all of the mojo distributions to the sources.list, because some stuff, like Quake2, was dropped from later versions of Ubuntu, but it is still there in the older distributions.
Enabling the mamona distribution can lead to some serious problems, because Ubuntu and Mamona seem to have slightly different package names in many cases, and that can lead to all sorts of conflicts in dependencies.
Enabling the Debian distribution is even worse. It downloads arm packages (instead of armel) no matter what you tell it the architecture is. One possibility here is to download just the missing packages from Debian armel and dpkg -i install them, using --force-architecture and --force-depends (because the Debian version numbers tend to be higher than the Ubuntu Hardy numbers). I tried this for the gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad package, but it is a long and arduous process, and I just ran out of steam before I got finished...

Browse the Ubuntu repositories and see if there's anything you'd like (me) to test out.

Yeah, a few things I've noticed...
Tried the tar and couldn't chroot it due to an error complaining about there being no /bin/bash which obviously isn't true...so I'm not sure what happened there. I may try it again with a fresh install because I crapped out my deblet install somehow. Somehow, I keep running into crashes of the installer this time around, but haven't seen where it's going wrong because I just go back and the IT has rebooted a long while into the process.
Also, qole is right about the mamona problem with the repos. It appears to have some serious issues with using alternate names and causes problems with libc6.

I'll give it all another shot soon. This is just interesting stuff to mess with.

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 240064)

Johnx and I are slowly working on a proof of concept of Maemo Reconstructed (http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Reconstructed - please keep the discussion to technical issues on the wiki, not high level goals such as open source everything in GPLv3 or "A2DP" and such, you can put those in this thread instead :P it's a system level discussion, not world domination discussion).. based on mojo for now to see if it's feasible to have a generic Maemo platform (with room for other things than Hildon.)

But if you do have a genuine clue about system architecture or comments about SDK and such, feel free to contribute.

Just wanted to let you know.

I took a look at that project. Looks good. Maybe I'll get a chance to hit up the IRC sometime.

By, the way, the webpage here states that armv5 is being used because armv6 isn't complete yet. I was under the impression from the webpage that armv6 is now complete. Will this change anything?

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

We also keep a Jaiku channel noting progress/new packages/images etc and such at http://jaiku.com/channel/reconstructedPOC , (if you need a jaiku invite, send me a private message)

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

I'm still trying to find Thunderbird (or something like it) for the tablets.

Seamonkey Mail looks and feels a lot like Thunderbird, because they share most of their code.

I tried setting up "Iceape" under Debian, but it kept segfaulting, and I finally gave up.

I tried setting Seamonkey up under Ubuntu, and it sorta works, but it is extremely "fragile" ... It seems like you have to close and open it every time you make a configuration change, and I've yet to actually read a message; when I click on a message in the top pane, the app closes without any errors (not even a segfault message).

So still no Mozilla-based e-mail...

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

Not sure what the point of that link was... Just checked, it isn't in the Ubuntu (nor Debian) repositories.

Perhaps you are taunting me with all the choice available to the x86 architecture?

Are you offering to build us a hildonized port? ;)

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

Spicebird is neat, but in still in heavy development. Have you ported it to Maemo? Maybe mention it as suggestion on the PIM thread @ Maemo Wiki.

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

Is it not possible to install Ubuntu, (or Debian or Android) natively on the N810 rather than in a chroot environment?

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

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Originally Posted by nuttttz (Post 240934)

Is it not possible to install ... Debian ... natively on the N810 rather than in a chroot environment?

http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/deblet_no_swirl.jpg