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Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

Hi Thoughtfix

Thanks for that

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Does that help?

We have seen the demos of the interface, I am just curious as to what actual applications you have seen running?
To quote Ubuntu Mobile
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded

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We will be using existing open source applications where it is feasible to do so, packaging them for Ubuntu where necessary. We will fill in some of the gaps by developing new applications if nothing suitable exists. Our goal is to have a basic set of applications needed to have a useful mobile system, such as a browser, media player, system utilities, etc.

Or are applications exected to follow in due course?

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

How's this:
I am moving to a new apartment at the beginning of next month. As soon as I get settled in, I'll do another live show and go over absolutely everything. Fair? ;)

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

I forgot who it was that doubted Gimp would run well on the N800/N810, but I do have a screenshot for you. :D

It honestly runs pretty well. I have a 640x480 pic open here with 3 layers. 11MB of swap is used at this point and that's with xfce loaded as well. Drawing lines with brush and airbrush are reasonably quick and rendering a gradient or that cloud pattern you see took less than 30 seconds each. Drawing on a semi-opaque layer definitely gives you a speed hit, though. Overall this actually worked a lot better than I thought it would. ;)

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

Thoughtfix

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I am moving to a new apartment at the beginning of next month. As soon as I get settled in, I'll do another live show and go over absolutely everything.

i look forward to that.

Good luck with the move.

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

Hey JohnX, is that Ubuntu that you are running?

If so, do you have any 'n00b's guides' to help those who are not as well versed in Linux?

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

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Originally Posted by Johnx (Post 173758)

I forgot who it was that doubted Gimp would run well on the N800/N810, but I do have a screenshot for you. :D

It honestly runs pretty well... Overall this actually worked a lot better than I thought it would. ;)

That was me, and I ran it and I commented that it was usable, but it didn't run well.

Well, I guess I just have higher standards than you. I like to be able to see all of my menus, for one thing. I commented that the IT's screen size cuts off the bottom of the menus, and if it does that, it isn't running well. I had a taller virtual screen when I tested it, and I was actually curious if Gimp would resize its menus if the screen was too small; your screen shot answers that question with a sad little, "no."

As to performance, I was running two window managers (Hildon and XFCE4 via VNC) simultaneously, so my performance may have suffered. I found browsing a directory of pictures to be pretty unbearable, GIMP took 4-7 seconds to create a thumbnail for each of the 640x480 images. And image manipulation wasn't much better; a simple color balance took 30 seconds.

In short, I don't see much point in running GIMP on the tablets. The interface is completely unsuited and the processor is underpowered.

EDIT: On a related note, can anyone fix MyPaint so it has no "dead spots" on my screen? That one feels like a killer Tablet app to me, if only it worked on my tablet.

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

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Originally Posted by Maximos (Post 173847)

Hey JohnX, is that Ubuntu that you are running?

If so, do you have any 'n00b's guides' to help those who are not as well versed in Linux?

That is XFCE running. Search and there is a how-to or two.

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

@Maximos: That is the Debian rootfs from a while ago. I just installed a fresh copy of it, did apt-get install xfce4 gimp (and had to add some fonts too) and started gimp and took the screenshot. To install it you first need to setup boot from SD with one of the plentiful guides, then just unpack the debian.tar.bz2 onto the SD card. Simple as that. :)

@qole: You were running through VNC. No small wonder it was painfully slow. After booting natively into Debian I really did find it actually useful for doing some drawing with a couple layers. The UI for Gimp is actually pretty modular from what I understand so it might not be a huge undertaking to make it behave better on an 800x480 screen.

EDIT: It really isn't a big issue. I took about 5 minutes and re-arranged the GUI to my satisfaction. I can leave the tools open in one virtual desktop and the image in another. I set the fonts nice and big so I don't have to squint. I need to scroll through the menus but there's no way to get around that. I actually ran without swap this time and it turns out swap isn't really necessary for single-layer image editing.

As for "dead spots," be sure to give maemopad+ (or something else with pressure sensitivity) a try and see if the dead spots line up. It might be a hardware problem.

Re: Nokia is porting Ubuntu to ARM

I don't think the dead spot on Mypaint is a hardware problem anymore.
i got pressure sensitivity to work with mtpaint and there's no dead spots.
so I really do think its just mypaint.

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