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tonikitoo 2006-07-11 20:47

new minor release available ...

http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2006/0...ilable_11.html

mainly, fixing toggle fullscreen mode !

fpp 2006-07-11 21:22

Antonio, you da man ! Thanks !

=DC= 2006-07-11 21:40

Excellent work Antonio! Thanks for this.

Milhouse 2006-07-12 00:31

You posted:

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonikitoo
any nokia's finger at all on *minimo stuff specifically* ... although it'd be great to have device specific improvements on n770's xul support.

I'm not really sure what you are saying in your post, but if you are questioning Nokia's involvement with Minimio it should be clear from the Mozillazine thread that Nokia have (at least in the past - the article dates from 2004) funded the development of Minimo. This isn't rumour or speculation, it's fact otherwise it wouldn't have appeared on Mozillazine, the organ of the Mozilla Foundation.

Nokia targetting Mozilla stuff on the 770 - now that would be news (and good news too!) It would seem logical for Nokia to want to see Minimo on 770 given their past funding of Minimo and open source support of the 770, but rarely are the words "logical" and "large corporation" used in the same sentence. You should try contacting either the Mozilla Foundation or Nokia to see if they can offer any support to your great work

Element 2006-07-12 00:39

Can't open link for downloading :(

tonikitoo 2006-07-12 02:25

server down
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Element
Can't open link for downloading :(

it seems to be a host problem. fpp , "=cd=" , did you suceeded to download it ?

tonikitoo 2006-07-12 02:38

you are right ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse
You posted:



I'm not really sure what you are saying in your post, but if you are questioning Nokia's involvement with Minimio it should be clear from the Mozillazine thread that Nokia have (at least in the past - the article dates from 2004) funded the development of Minimo. This isn't rumour or speculation, it's fact otherwise it wouldn't have appeared on Mozillazine, the organ of the Mozilla Foundation.

I am not questioning it at all . That's a fact and I do know about that ! Btw, I worked on old minimo-gtk development sometime ago as well ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse
Nokia targetting Mozilla stuff on the 770 - now that would be news (and good news too!) It would seem logical for Nokia to want to see Minimo on 770 given their past funding of Minimo and open source support of the 770, but rarely are the words "logical" and "large corporation" used in the same sentence. You should try contacting either the Mozilla Foundation or Nokia to see if they can offer any support to your great work

yep, I could imagine how great it'd be . As I said, XUL archtecture specific improvements/development would be perfect , maybe they had prefered to spend their money on gtk, not xul ... who knows ...

acdczip 2006-07-12 03:47

Great work, this browser is awesome!!!
I download it this morning and had trouble with the Full screen mode. I come back in the evening and theres the patch for that, Thanks a lot. Just started playing with it a bit, it already looks and feels better than the opera crap. Not to mention it's running much faster and with tabs!!!!! Not sure if it's me or what, I can't seem to log into my yahoo account. Any advises anyone?

fpp 2006-07-12 05:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonikitoo
it seems to be a host problem. fpp , "=cd=" , did you suceeded to download it ?

No Antonio, I didn't grab it immediately last night and this morning the link to the .deb is still a 404...

fpp 2006-07-12 05:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by acdczip
Great work, this browser is awesome!!!
I download it this morning and had trouble with the Full screen mode. I come back in the evening and theres the patch for that, Thanks a lot. Just started playing with it a bit, it already looks and feels better than the opera crap. Not to mention it's running much faster and with tabs!!!!! Not sure if it's me or what, I can't seem to log into my yahoo account. Any advises anyone?

In the release notes :
NOTE: Log-ins on security sites is broken.

tonikitoo 2006-07-12 12:34

link is up again ! ;)

spycedtx 2006-07-12 13:06

functionality problem
 
I feel like a complete tool, but i've tried and tried...

i click on the address bar, no keyboard pops up (like every other app that's expecting text input). I check the preferences, "use software keyboard" is selected. I've tried unchecking it, but still no keyboard.

Fine, I hit the select button, and up pops the thumbboard. I type in my new URL, click the minimize keyboard button, and see my new url sitting in the address bar. I select "go" from the right menu.. and nothing happens.

it looks like a pretty program, and i know it works because of the default bookmarks on the left.. but.. help!

if it's an id10t problem, please smack me (kindly).

tonikitoo 2006-07-12 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by spycedtx
I feel like a complete tool, but i've tried and tried...

i click on the address bar, no keyboard pops up (like every other app that's expecting text input). I check the preferences, "use software keyboard" is selected. I've tried unchecking it, but still no keyboard.

>> NOTE: Pressing "ENTER" on the rocker pop up/hide the vkb.

in order to popping up the vkb, you HAVE to press the <ENTER> button (in the middle of arrows) ... so you will be able input text from the virtual keyboard.

I know it sucks, but I am working on a solution. I hope it gets fixed for next release ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by spycedtx
Fine, I hit the select button, and up pops the thumbboard. I type in my new URL, click the minimize keyboard button, and see my new url sitting in the address bar. I select "go" from the right menu.. and nothing happens.

'go' is also broken :s ... again , try popping up vkb via <ENTER> hd key input you text, and then press the virtual ENTER to go ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by spycedtx

it looks like a pretty program, and i know it works because of the default bookmarks on the left.. but.. help!

if it's an id10t problem, please smack me (kindly).

bookmark is also not integrated so far . Maybe it'd be better to comment out not-working-yet-features from menus for instance ...

spycedtx 2006-07-12 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonikitoo
>> NOTE: Pressing "ENTER" on the rocker pop up/hide the vkb.

it should work here ... the phisical button in the middle of arrows ... it sucks. Fixed for next release though ;)

This means the standard vkb will be available, and not just the thumbboard?


Quote:

Originally Posted by tonikitoo
>>
'go' is also broken :s ... try popping up vkb via <ENTER> hd key and pressing the virtual ENTER to go ...

All that does is add a newline to the thumbboard entry area.. and dismissing the thumbboard, either with the select key or the minimize button, doesn't add an "enter" to the address bar.. it still just sits there, taunting me.

johsua 2006-07-12 16:18

You need to change your input settings in your control panel. Deselect the choice of having the thumb board appear after hitting the rocker button.

cheers.

spycedtx 2006-07-12 20:25

oy!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johsua
You need to change your input settings in your control panel. Deselect the choice of having the thumb board appear after hitting the rocker button.

cheers.


that was entirely too obvious. thank you!



i'm thinking there's something "wrong" about overriding the way the OS handles input selection (lack of consistency, and mashed-head syndrome), but i'll shush on that for now.

tonikitoo 2006-07-13 13:57

Guys, have any of you tested 0.16.2-1 (newest one) version ? Does it start up for you ? Any problem on replacing any old version of minimo by this one ?

thanks

fpp 2006-07-13 14:27

Yes, no problem than I can see (although I haven't had time to test it much).
Last night I saw the archive was available again, downloaded it and opened it with app manager without uninstalling the previous one. It correctly went into upgrade mode and the new version seems to work okay (although it went 'poof' once when clicking on one of the buttons on the left side :-)

One minor inconvenience : it does not pick up a proxy address that may be configured in the current connection's profile, like Opera does.

acdczip 2006-07-14 05:10

Installed simhei.ttf chinese font on the n770 and both simplified and tradition chinese font pages renders perfectly fine. Can anyone provide me with the Japanese font file name that I can try with minimo? Again thanks for making this great browser available. And with bookmarks and secure site access, opera on the n770 opera would be obsolete.

spycedtx 2006-07-14 09:04

oy!
 
I'm running v0.16.2-1, and I'm about ready to toss it.. for now. I've read such great and wonderful comments about how this is so much better than the included browser. I wish I could say the same.

I've found it to be horribly clunky, and slow, even in comparison. I swear I read someone say it works amazingly well with Google Calendar -- that just causes it to lock up to either the point of rebooting itself or needing a reboot. I have a 1g card in the machine, with the additional vfat turned on for swap space.

Am I missing something? I'm not running beta, I'm not running Sardine... but, I am running out of hair.

Thoughts, suggestions?

fpp 2006-07-14 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by spycedtx
I'm running v0.16.2-1, and I'm about ready to toss it.. for now. I've read such great and wonderful comments about how this is so much better than the included browser. I wish I could say the same.
I've found it to be horribly clunky, and slow, even in comparison. I swear I read someone say it works amazingly well with Google Calendar -- that just causes it to lock up to either the point of rebooting itself or needing a reboot. I have a 1g card in the machine, with the additional vfat turned on for swap space.

That might be me, although I didn't quite say that. What is wrote was :
"Minimo is almost fast enough now, and it runs most Ajax sites that still break Opera in the 2006 OS : Google Calendar, NetVibes, etc..."

And I stand by my claim. Minimo runs all those sites that Opera doesn't. It may slow down sometimes but it gets the job done. And Google calendar doesn't freeze or lockup or reboot (although I don't have a 1Gb MMC with vfat swap, just the standard 64MB card and a 32 MB swap file from the memory applet).

Quote:

Am I missing something? I'm not running beta, I'm not running Sardine... but, I am running out of hair.
Thoughts, suggestions?
Toss it, keep your hair, and try again next time ?

tonikitoo 2006-07-19 12:33

new version at http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2006/0...available.html ;)

acdczip 2006-07-23 04:38

i have problem login into my yahoo mail, but gmail no problem at all.
chinese website with chinese fonts takes long time to load, maybe the 10 MB font file is too much for the N770.

tonikitoo 2006-07-31 18:23

up coming effort list is available here http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2006/0...ii-update.html

tonikitoo 2006-08-17 11:54

new port version available. virtual keyboard suckage is fixed.

Happy browsing ;)

http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2006/0...available.html

schmolch 2006-08-17 13:17

Im a little suprised to read this.
I thought minimo ist just some dev-release with no practical use yet.
I cant go to any url of my choice cause the keyboard doesnt work.
I just can click those tiny icons which open some urls in a new tab, thats all.
There are also no menus anywhere, no Hildon-Support?
And yes i installed the latest release which was just announced.

schmolch 2006-08-17 13:35

i reinstalled it, it took about 30 secs to start up.
the keyboard still didnt work but then i discovered how to get into the preferences (small icon in the bottom left) and after leaving them (software keybaord was enabled by default) now the keyboard works.

looks much much better now :-)

jnack95 2006-08-19 00:58

The download link appears to be dead?

tonikitoo 2006-08-19 04:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnack95
The download link appears to be dead?

I think it is up ... check http://home.ufam.edu.br/~agan/minimo/binary-arm/

mwiktowy 2006-08-23 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonikitoo
new port version available. virtual keyboard suckage is fixed.

Happy browsing ;)

http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2006/0...available.html

I was just trying it out and I gotta say that I am impressed!

It starts up slowly but once up it is functional and responsive.

It wasn't the speediest thing around in doing so but it handled Google Spreadsheet, Calendar and the full-blown Gmail page+builtin chat thing just fine. Of course opening up those three things all at once made it grind to a screeching halt. Still ... it didn't crash or cause the 770 to reboot or anything. The desktop killed it cleanly when it detected that it wasn't responding to the close button.

Good job with the port!

tonikitoo 2006-09-07 20:32

0.16.5-2 bugfixing release available
 
it is installable via app manager ... see http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2006/0...epository.html to see how.

Rocketman 2006-09-07 21:11

Suggested Improvements
 
I am running the latest .16.5-2 and here are some thoughts:

-Bookmarks don't seem to be saved between application instances. i.e. if I shut down Minimo and restart, all my bookmarks have gone poof.
-Fullscreen button doesn't toggle fullscreen mode, although it is available from the left icon that looks like a world.
-Pressing the -/+ rocker switch crashes the browser. Would be nice to use for font size adjustment or page scrolling
-Can currently only "left click" on links. Would be nice to get a context menu pop up if I click and hold on a link for a few seconds, as is the case with the Win CE version of Minimo.
-Would be nice if Minimo could launch the connection chooser if a connection is not already established.
-Would be nice to be able to open a link in a new tab via a modifier key + click
-A "GO" button on the address bar would be welcome.

Thanks for all the great work thus far!

tonikitoo 2006-09-08 00:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman
I am running the latest .16.5-2 and here are some thoughts:

-Bookmarks don't seem to be saved between application instances. i.e. if I shut down Minimo and restart, all my bookmarks have gone poof.

minimo's bookmark have not been integrated with maEmo's default one, although it should not be that hard through dbus message exchanges. In this meanwhile, I'll take off the bookmark menuittem from menu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman
-Fullscreen button doesn't toggle fullscreen mode, although it is available from the left icon that looks like a world.
-Pressing the -/+ rocker switch crashes the browser. Would be nice to use for font size adjustment or page scrolling

nokia 770 hardware keystrokes are also not supported so far. Coming also.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman
-Can currently only "left click" on links. Would be nice to get a context menu pop up if I click and hold on a link for a few seconds, as is the case with the Win CE version of Minimo.
-Would be nice to be able to open a link in a new tab via a modifier key + click

context sensitive menus are activated on x86 via mouse right-button press only. Maybe some timers can help here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman
-Would be nice if Minimo could launch the connection chooser if a connection is not already established.

that's woulbe be really great. More dbus involved I believe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman
-A "GO" button on the address bar would be welcome.

Thanks for all the great work thus far!

the GO button is on the bottom right menu, see http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1...0/dsc09768.jpg

long way yo run ...

stae 2006-09-18 14:21

Seg fault on starting minimo
 
Sorry if it is not the right place for my post... but I follow your instructions (script runminimo) and I got a seg fault.
I cross-compiled Minimo 1.8 branch but after these few commands
(
cd /minimo_cross/lib/minimo-0.015
export DISPLAY=:0
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.
./minimo
)
I get a sad "Segmentation fault"... :(
Any hint? Did you get this before you had minimo running with success?
Thank you guys,
bye
Stae

tonikitoo 2006-10-19 18:04

0.16.6 minimo maemo port available.
 
check this out !

http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2006/1...available.html

ps: I am back :))))))))


please, report problems here or comment in the blog or by email ;)

Rocketman 2006-10-19 22:24

The new build works well for me. I still get some weird doubling up of the bottom tool bar/buttons, though. I will take a screenshot with my digicam sometime if you don't know about this bug. I would love to see Minimo fully hildonized and brought up to parity with the current nightly builds. The Windows CE nightlies are far improved over .16, the last official release.

tonikitoo 2006-10-20 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman
The new build works well for me. I still get some weird doubling up of the bottom tool bar/buttons, though. I will take a screenshot with my digicam sometime if you don't know about this bug.

I'd love to see sshot :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketman
I would love to see Minimo fully hildonized and brought up to parity with the current nightly builds. The Windows CE nightlies are far improved over .16, the last official release.

update the sourcebase it MAIN TARGET now. I've seen great progress since I got this tarball, that is true. It is dated from Augost :(((

I'll also post the source code for the next "release".

thanks for feedbacking

chill633 2006-10-27 01:15

0.16.6-1
 
Wow, this version of Minimo works nicely! I really like the "Scroll with Arrow Keys" feature, and it is much faster rendering pages than the included Opera.

What is the "Toggle Homebar" option? It doesn't seem to do anything for me. Oh, wait. It showed up after a restart of the software.

A quick way to crash it is to link over the Flash plugin included on the 770 and hit a page with Flash. Crash boom. :-)

Very nice.

delaroca 2006-10-31 07:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by chill633
Wow, this version of Minimo works nicely! I really like the "Scroll with Arrow Keys" feature, and it is much faster rendering pages than the included Opera.

Humm? For me, Google maps isn't working anymore -- as it did in previous versions. Returned maps are empty and filled with text advisories:

Try zooming out
for a broader
look.
We are sorry,
but we don't
have maps at
this zoom level
for this region.

-- Denis

tonikitoo 2006-10-31 08:32

new release coming
 
hi guys,

a new release is coming hopefully these next days.

thanks for all feedback. Changes:

* Minimo will be hosted in garage.maemo servers.
* running over a newest sourcebase (same as firefox 2.0)
* source and patches will be available.

keep tuned.

ps: Mika is helping a lot in these all.


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