[ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.org!
 

Hello All,

Roadmap-1.1.0i has been released here at the garage. It features download of vector maps from openstreetmap.org. So now maps are available for more than the U.S. The GUI tool allows download by lat/lon or GPS position and can take a bounding box or location/radius as parameters.
You can still use tiger maps also. But roadmap-1.1.0i now supports the 1.1.0+ mapset here. So if you're upgrading either-
1.(Recommended) delete all your old 1.1.0 tiger maps and download the 1.1.0+ versions of the usdir.rdm.tar.gz and bndSB.tar.gz files, plus whatever state maps you need. DO NOT USE ANY basemaps PACKAGE FROM THE GARAGE. (They are version 1.1.0.)
2. Keep all your old maps. They still work, but should not be mixed with 1.1.0+ maps.

The idea is one or the other, not both. Also to download maps, wget is required. So if you run into issues, verify it's installed first.

That in mind. Try it out. Report any bugs you find at the garage.

Cheers,
kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

here's the obligatory screenshot-
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa...reenshot01.jpg

(that's on the LCARS theme. BTW)

kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

OK, I installed the app. Then I used wget to obtain the map file for one state. Now I'm stuck. I'm sure it's a Linux newbie thing.

First off, where do you figure wget put the file?

Next, what do I do with it? Do I have to "untar" it or something? I have to admit, I could use a step-by-step.

Thanks!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

No it's not a Linux thing it's a Roadmap thing...

Roadmap recognizes several map formats.-
- The state by state roadmaps available at the sourceforge page which are based on U.S. Census Bureau Tiger Data.
- Maps downloaded from openstreetmaps.org. These maps are downloaded and compiled using the getmaps_osm program. 'getmaps' in your start menu.

Roadmap will display both maps simultaneously if you have both. So it's best to use one or the ther for a particular area. For example use the tiger maps for one's home state, then download maps on the fly when traveling using getmaps.

If you're using the n810 all you need to do is-
1. create a dir 'roadmaps' on the root directory of either MMC.
2. fire up getmaps point the map location at your 'roadmaps' directory. (I've got 'roadmaps' directories on both MMCs. Roadmap is designed to look on the Internal card for Tiger maps, and on the external card for OSM maps. This allows a way to gps keep things organized. ;)
3. Wait for a GPS fix, press the 'GPS Position' button and then the 'Get OSM Maps' button.
4. Start Roadmap. If you still have a fix from step 2 you can press 'g' and go to your current location.

Hope this helps,
kernelpanic

p.s.- To use the state maps download usdir.rdm.tar.gz, bndSB.tar.gz and whatever states you want. Then create a directory on your internal mmc and untar. In xterm this would be-

$ mkdir /media/mmc2/roadmaps
$ cd /media/mmc2/roadmaps
$ tar -xvzf <location of tar.gz file>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

How do I download the map ?
I got a fix, pressed 'Get OSM Maps', then the message 'connected' is displayed but nothing is downloaded....
(wget is installed)

thank you.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

You are likely downloading the maps. There's no progress indicator on each download. [Getmaps uses 'wget -q -O -' So mapdata goes through stdout. ] But if you want to verify that you are in fact downloading, temporarily change the bits setting higher. (25 maybe). This makes the app download more, smaller maptiles to get the same area. You should see output in the window as each map is compiled. If this doesn't help, run 'getmaps_osm' from xterm, and post back the output.


The 'bits' setting is a little confusing and deserves explanation. It specifies the number of bits in the quadtile address. The more bits, the more tiles. The more tiles the smaller they are. 21 is the default and works for most places. But for dense urban areas you will need to go higher as there is a max size for how much data one quadtile will hold. So trying to download London or tokyo at 21 bits will likely fail.

The flip side of this is that there is slight overlap in the tiles. So the map can look wonky where tiles meet if the bits setting is too high. I generally use-
Big City- 23 to 25 bits
Deserted Wasteland- 19 bits
Everything Else- 21 bits.

hope this helps,
kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

Nope, nothing is downloaded.

location is 50,490,4,210:10km
##bad longitude specified


Thanks !

Edit: its a localisation bug. If I switch from france to US, it works (problem with the decimal separator)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

Cool. Thanks for that. It should be an easy fix ;)

Internationalization is the next step. Once I've got the framework into the source, I'll be looking for volunteers to translate the relevant strings. I would ideally like to support as many locales as possible...

cheers,
kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

How do you create a route in Roadmap? Only loading a previously generated .gpx (outside Roadmap) as a trip?

I have managed to load a map from OSM but now I accept I am lost with this app...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

phgerin-

O.K. Should be fixed 1.1.0i-2 is here

try it with your locale and post back.

To anyone on 1.1.0i-1- The only difference is to fix locales where the decimal separator is a comma. (Roadmap uses the comma as a separator between lat/lon. It was getting confused.) Unless this is you, you don't need to upgrade ;)

cheers,
kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

Roadmap does not (yet) do onboard routing. It will import gpx files and you can use gnuite's CGI here to get directions. Then simply save the results and open the saved file as a trip in Roadmap. (Roadmap doesn't care about file extensions, so if the browser saves the directions as html, it's fine...)

hope this helps,
kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

Thanks, kernelpanic.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

KP:

Since you handle vector maps I wonder if you have looked at mapping nautical vector charts.

NOAA publish free vector charts for US waters: "NOAA ENC®s are in the International Hydrographic Office (IHO) S-57 international exchange format."

Most countries now publish similar vector charts, sadly most of them are only available commercially.

See: http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/index.htm

FWIW. I don't know of any Linux-based chart viewer, so such a thing would be a welcome addition. If I am wrong about this then I would be happy to stand corrected.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

S-57 isn't supported by Roadmap. But if someone out there has Arcview and wants to convert to shapefiles, a new class file is all that would be required to compile/display nautical maps...

cheers,
kernelpanic
[edit] It looks like there may be open source software to convert S-57 to shapefiles(openev). I'm downloading the charts now. If I can get this to work who wants to host them? :) [/edit]

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

hello kernelpanic:

Thanks for the application port!...

I'm using the tigermaps 1.1.0+ in mmc2 (8GB SDHC). When I go to a dense populated area with many streets (moving the map with the stylus) the program quits!... I'm using the 1:1 (normal size) zoom in a N800 with bluetooth GPS configured with its MAC address.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

Questions-
Can you run it from xterm and see if it spits out an error?

Does bluetooth GPS work on the n800 with Roadmap? I put the code in and crossed my fingers... I don't have an n800, so I'm relying on external feedback to support n800 users.

Thanks,
kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

As you have noticed, the files are big and there are a lot of them. Furthermore, they updated frequently with "Notices to Mariners".

Rather than hosting converted files, maybe it would be better to package up the converter so that folks could dl the NOAA originals and do their own conversions?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

That would be the plan-
The main Roadmap branch at sourceforge.net includes the buildmap binaries. But they are command line tools. Pre-compiled maps would be provided for convenience, but users can still download the raw data and compile their own maps.

I did some test converting to shapefile format and some of the data is lost. So direct conversion from S-57 to rdm would be best. I'll have to look into the format some more.

Making this work would take-
1. getting the data into Roadmap format,
2. Adding icons and rendering rules for nautical features.
3. Adding 'Nautical' to the unit schemes beside 'Imperial' and 'Metric'

It would be cool though...

cheers,
kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

At least my Holux M1200 doesn't automatically connect. I had to fire up maemo-mapper first to get it to start, then getmaps could determine my location (which is the same as maemo-mapper reports, so that's a 'good thing' :)).

I've created a roadmaps folder on my internal card, pointed getmaps to it, found the gps poistion & his 'Get OSM Maps', but it just sits at the following (is there a way I could've copied the status window output instead of doing the screenshots?). Things I've noticed is that there's nothing being saved in the roadmaps folder yet & that the command line shown by ps only shows the command up to the '~adam/', nothing more. Is that a limitation of the busybox ps or is that really all that's beging run? TX

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

grog- OSM maps default to the external card. If you wish to use the internal card, you'll need to point the file chooser in getmaps to it...

hope this helps,
kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

If by setting the map destination in the getmaps window that I screenshotted previously is what you mean, then yes it is set to point to the internal card. Or is there somewhere else I have to set that? tx

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

If the folder exists you should be fine. Roadmap will look for maps in /media/mmc1/roadmaps AND /media/mmc2/roadmaps. So either one will work.

As for downloading, The first time a map is downloaded from the osmgetbmap.php proxy, the proxy downloads the XML data from openstreetmaps.org and converts it to OSM binary format. You may just be waiting on the server to download and convert the tile. Once a tile has been downloaded, it is cached on the server so the next request for that tile will be much faster. On a DSL connection it took me less than 10 seconds to download the tile number in your screen shot and <45 seconds to get all tiles within 10km...

If you wait a minute or two and still see no progress, try running from xterm via-

$ getmaps_osm

and report back any errors...

Thanks,
kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

Fixed for me !

Thank you again !

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

When I run from xterm and do the same thing (see my earlier post) it shows an "Segmentation Fault" on exit.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

[Grog and Kernelpanic]:

Those are the steps I did to make the bluetooth GPS work on the N800 in roadmap and getmaps:

1- You need to find the MAC address of your bluetooth GPS. Please turn off any other Bluetooth device near (the discoverability)...
Turn on the BT-GPS and with bluez-utils installed - issue in xterm "hcitool scan".

2- Select and copy the MAC address.

3- in RoadMap preferences select the bluetooth tab and paste the MAC address in Bluetooth address and select Bluetooth enabled yes.

...

(No need to open maemo-mapper before roadmap in N800 anymore!)

PD. with Bluetooth-GPS enabled the processor is constantly in 52-55% and when I move the map it goes 100%...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

O.K. That helps some. Right now though I wish I had an n800 to reproduce this on... I can't reproduce this on my n810.

So, another question-
Does this happen with GPS disabled? (That's the only real difference I can think of between the n800 and the n810 AFA Roadmap is concerned. Bluetooth vs. onboard.)

Let me know. Until then, At least I know I'm looking for a NULL pointer ;)

thanks,
kernelpanic

p.s.- As for bluetooth working at all I'm glad. I put the code in and crossed my fingers prettymuch. Thanks for helping me figure this out. It's hard when one doesn't have the hardware...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

When not using the BT-GPS the processor usage is very low but when I move the map to an populated area still exits with an segmentation fault!...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

I had the same issues with the earlier release - entering the bt gps mac address did the trick for me with this build.

A little simpler method if you had already paired it -
Control Panel/Bluetooth/Devices/select your gps/edit
Your mac address is the last entry in the device details.

Working great on my N800 without the other gps apps!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

I think this URI has a typo, which will take you to a parasite website.

The link should be to openstreetmap.org — no "s"

Roger

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

Are you using virtual memory? If so how much?

kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

128MB Virtual memory in mmc2 (the same as the tiger maps)

:confused:

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

Sorry to keep bugging you with questions but I am trying to nail this down...
So-
You said you are using 1.1.0+ maps.

1. Are you using one of the basemaps packages from the garage?
2. Did you download and install usdir.rdm from sourceforge also?

Note- I'm just trying to eliminate possibilities here. The basemaps packages from the garage contain two things- The usdir.rdm and bndSB packages from the 1.1.0 maps. They are incompatible with 1.1.0+. If you're using 1.1.0+ maps you should definitely install at least the usdir.rdm package from 1.1.0+ also. (It's the map index...)

If you already are running the on 1.1.0+ usdir.rdm, post back so I know to rule that outas a possible cause...

Thanks again,
kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

Hi you all!

I am a new NewBee!

I have successfully installed the latest Roadmap 1.1.0i-2 and all the apps tartup fine.

I have downloaded the 2 .tar.gz files mentioned in the first post and extracted them in my /media/mmc1/roadmaps folder.

In that folder ther is now:

usdir.rdm
SB/usc81002.rdm
SB/usc81003.rdm
SB/usc81004.rdm
SB/usc81061.rdm

I am not situated in the US but in a small forgotten place called Thailand, that Nokia and Wayfinder obviously don't find worthwhile to visit.

So my next step is to download some maps for my area. (Phuket)

I use the getmaps app.

After supplying a GPS position i press "Get OSM Maps".

After a few seconds i get the following back:


Connecting, Please Wait...
Connected...
-- will process 117 tiles
--
-- processing tileid '1687678985', for file 'qt21/64/97/qt6497f009.rdm'
-- command is "/usr/bin/wget -q -O - 'http://www.symbianos.org/~adam/osmgetbmap/osmgetbmap.php?tile=1648124&ts=21&have=15'"

Download Finished with Errors!


If i try to open the URL: "http://www.symbianos.org/~adam/osmgetbmap/osmgetbmap.php?tile=1648124&ts=21&have=15" in my browser, i get the following in return:

> f;Couldn't lock data file -- check file/directory permissions

Is this based on some indata that is wrong in my app or is there a hickup on the server side?

Thanks in advance!!

Best regards

Thailand ;-)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

I Downloaded the maps from here: http://www.roadmap.digitalomaha.net/maps-1.1.0+/

Those are the files I extracted its content on mmc2/roadmaps/
bndSB.tar.gz 18-Mar-2008 22:35 991k
usdir.rdm.tar.gz 19-Mar-2008 07:10 542k
usPR.tar.gz 18-Mar-2008 22:22 10.3M
(...I'm from PR...) ;)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

Since you are in Thailand, you don't need usdir.rdm or the bndSB package. They are the map index and state borders for U.S.A. You can safely delete them.
Do you have wget installed?
That's a server side hiccup. It happens sometimes. Usually I try back an hour later and it's fine.

hope this helps,
kernelpanic

p.s.- I'd like to set up an OSM binary proxy for Roadmap users. If anyone out there would like to donate hosting it would be most welcome. It just needs PHP with cURL support, some storage space for the cache and some bandwidth...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

Hello All,
I've just released 1.1.0i-3. It's a bugfix release which addresses some gpsmgr wonkiness and speeds up screen repaints at larger zooms. I highly recommend updating.

As far as the segfaulting-
That was the missing piece I needed. The Puerto Rico maps are segfaulting Roadmap. I'm not sure why. It doesn't happen on x86, and the code is the same. It shouldn't be too terribly hard to fix, once I get a chance to do a backtrace...

Anyway, thanks for helping me nail down the problem!

Until then, the OSM maps don't suffer from that problem. I'd use them (at least for now.)

Cheers,
kernelpanic

[EDIT] The segfault looks to be coming from freetype. If you go to file->preferences->Maps->Use Linefont and set it to 'All' The problem goes away... You don't get the pretty truetype font, but it works.. [/EDIT]

1.1.0i-4 released with GPX mime handling!
 

Hello All,

RoadMap for Maemo 1.1.0i-4 has been released. Changes include dbus service integration, mime handling of GPX files, and the screenshot menu item now works.

The upshot is-
GPX files can now be opened in RoadMap simply by double-clicking them in the file manager.
Screenshots can be taken by pressing 'y' or from the 'file' menu. They are saved in the 'Images' directory on the tablet with the name- map-(date and time).png
Maemo-Launcher will no longer launch multiple copies of RoadMap. (the commandline and utilities like personal menu however will...)

Please post back with any problems, and Enjoy!

cheers,
kernelpanic

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

How do I force getmaps to use MMC2. I have manually run getmaps and specified the MMC2/roadmaps directory, and downloaded maps; but when I use the "get maps from this view" from the main app, it tries to download to MMC1 (gives me an error, because there is no MMC1/roadmaps dir)

using 1.1.0i-7

also: are the icons on the toolbar described somewhere? I am having a hard time figuring out what some of them do.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

Hi...
I have a problem with downloading maps. In GetMaps when I fill 1st Lat and 1st Lon, chose folder for maps (/media/mmc2/roadmaps) and press Gett OSM Maps, so I get an error Download Finished with Errors! . Wget is installed and in Xterm when I use the command shown while attempting to download maps (/usr/bin/wget --user-agent.....) I get file with this text inside:
My location is: 49.533, 17.253 (Czech Republic)

Can somebody help me please???

Thanks in advance...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Roadmap 1.1.0i released with International Maps from openstreetmaps.or
 

c7asm,

That is the text the webserver is returning. It's a server side error. I'll try to reproduce the issue and post back. But it's not in your tablet...

HTH,
kernelpanic