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james.bottomtooth 2008-10-24 20:28
Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 228918)
Install Tools (internal and external) has been updated to support the latest versions of the OS

Always remember to thank Fanoush :)
so when one wants to update the OS, after the clone, do we need to redo this cloning?
or should the automatic OS2008 updates work?

penguinbait 2008-10-24 22:24
Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by james.bottomtooth (Post 236420)
so when one wants to update the OS, after the clone, do we need to redo this cloning?
or should the automatic OS2008 updates work?
When you update the OS in flash. It will reboot and bootmenu will be gone. If you install bootmenu-installer
http://internettablettalk.com/forums...light=bootmenu

It will setup your bootmenu and you can then boot to the flash with the updated OS, or SD with the older OS.

Now if you boot to SD and install the update. You will lose your bootmenu again. So you need to install bootmenu again to get your menus back.

bootmenu-installer conflicts with install-tools so be sure to remove and instance of install-tools or previous bootmenu installs before installing or it will fail.

Always take a backup before doing any of this. Something could always go wrong.

Good luck

caperren 2008-11-02 20:45
Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 175792)
MENU WILL NOT APPEAR
boot to flash and open xterm and become root and run the following command:
chroot /mnt/initfs cal-tool –set-root-device ask:flash
Instead of flash, you can also set the default boot image to be mmcX

mmc2 is partition 2 on internal
mmc3 is partition 3 on internal
mmc12 is partition 2 on external
mmc13 is partition 3 on external

Your menu will not display until you set it to ask:somthing then reboot.
I believe that the command should have two dashes before "set" so it reads:
chroot /mnt/initfs cal-tool --set-root-device ask:flash

Missing one dash gives you a cal-tool error.
It would probably be a good idea to fix this so people don't get confused or have any problems.

outsidersthe 2008-11-06 04:31
Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 
I am trying to boot from my internal memory card on my nokia n800. I have OS2008 and the card is 32GB.

I first removed all the memory cards, then loaded the install-tools.deb from penguinbait.com. Then inserted the memory card and proceeded to install the install-tools.deb. It begins to process the update, then finds the memory card, only to give me an error message that says the memory card is formatted incorrectly or corrupted.

It is a brand new memory card and I formatted it as well as used other cards, same results.

Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong? The only thing I assume is that I have the nokia turned on normally when doing this process. What is boot to flash on penguinbait's instructions (http://tablethacker.com/wp/?p=151&lang=en-us) and how do I do that?

Thanks much.

penguinbait 2008-11-06 11:59
Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by outsidersthe (Post 239744)
I am trying to boot from my internal memory card on my nokia n800. I have OS2008 and the card is 32GB.

I first removed all the memory cards, then loaded the install-tools.deb from penguinbait.com. Then inserted the memory card and proceeded to install the install-tools.deb. It begins to process the update, then finds the memory card, only to give me an error message that says the memory card is formatted incorrectly or corrupted.

It is a brand new memory card and I formatted it as well as used other cards, same results.

Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong? The only thing I assume is that I have the nokia turned on normally when doing this process. What is boot to flash on penguinbait's instructions (http://tablethacker.com/wp/?p=151&lang=en-us) and how do I do that?

Thanks much.
leave your card in, run install-tools
reboot
did a bootmenu show up?
if no
repeat process untl it does
done


If you boot and see a small splash about boot from menu and then continues booting from flash, look at the post prior to yours.

FYI when you boot the tablet normally it boots to flash by default

tdk_1988 2008-11-06 22:17
Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fibroman (Post 229941)
The memory card is fine. I was using it with the n800 before I attempted to do the clone. I also already formated this card as well as two other cards that I have tried with the Panasonic Format utility on my windows xp computer.
Very frustrating.
The only thing I can think of is that I am still using virtual memory somehow. How do you make sure you are not using it? The only way I know how is to go into control panel, then memory, then virtual memory tab and then make sure that the "use virtual memory" box is unchecked.
Is there another way to make sure that you have virtual memory off ??
it took me 3 days to figure out the problem , and finally i have solved it

just format your memory card using xterm follow instructions here :

http://wiki.maemo.org/Partitioning_a_flash_card

just follow the steps

apt-get install e2fsprogs
umount /media/mmc1
umount /media/mmc2
sfdisk /dev/mmcblk0
/dev/mmcblk0p1:1,15000,6
/dev/mmcblk0p2:15001,,
/dev/mmcblk0p3:
/dev/mmcblk0p4:

then install ( install-tools ) right after u proceed with these , many thanks PB and fanoush for ur efforts love u mates ^^

penguinbait 2008-11-06 23:29
Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tdk_1988 (Post 239945)
it took me 3 days to figure out the problem , and finally i have solved it

just format your memory card using xterm follow instructions here :

http://wiki.maemo.org/Partitioning_a_flash_card

just follow the steps

apt-get install e2fsprogs
umount /media/mmc1
umount /media/mmc2
sfdisk /dev/mmcblk0
/dev/mmcblk0p1:1,15000,6
/dev/mmcblk0p2:15001,,
/dev/mmcblk0p3:
/dev/mmcblk0p4:

then install ( install-tools ) right after u proceed with these , many thanks PB and fanoush for ur efforts love u mates ^^
Not sure why you had to partition the disk prior to running install-tools, but its un-necessary. All you did was partition the card, this is done by install tools already.

Its possible that some app you have installed was using the media cards and the umount command allowed them to be not locked?

umount /media/mmc1
umount /media/mmc2

Anyway, Either way, glad your up!!

SilverHound 2008-11-06 23:58
Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 
Penguinbait -

I see that you are online, so I'd like to ask a question. I have used your procedure to clone the OS to a 16GB SD card. I partitioned the card to allow 7GB for the OS, 8GB for a DOS partition and 1GB for swap. I have the "Extended virtual memory" unchecked. Does this sound like the proper configuration? I think I have way too much swap space since very little of it is ever in use, according to the conky app.

The system seems to work well. It is nice to have the additional space tor apps. I am up to over 2GB usage on that partition. Thanks for all your help in making the clone to SD possible.

penguinbait 2008-11-07 00:03
Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverHound (Post 239977)
Penguinbait -

I see that you are online, so I'd like to ask a question. I have used your procedure to clone the OS to a 16GB SD card. I partitioned the card to allow 7GB for the OS, 8GB for a DOS partition and 1GB for swap. I have the "Extended virtual memory" unchecked. Does this sound like the proper configuration? I think I have way too much swap space since very little of it is ever in use, according to the conky app.

The system seems to work well. It is nice to have the additional space tor apps. I am up to over 2GB usage on that partition. Thanks for all your help in making the clone to SD possible.
The configuration sounds fine, 256MB should be plenty for swap, but 1gb wont hurt anything.

Thesandlord 2008-11-07 00:25
Re: Clone OS to SD Deb!! Boot from SD made EASY!!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverHound (Post 239977)
Penguinbait -

I see that you are online, so I'd like to ask a question. I have used your procedure to clone the OS to a 16GB SD card. I partitioned the card to allow 7GB for the OS, 8GB for a DOS partition and 1GB for swap. I have the "Extended virtual memory" unchecked. Does this sound like the proper configuration? I think I have way too much swap space since very little of it is ever in use, according to the conky app.

The system seems to work well. It is nice to have the additional space tor apps. I am up to over 2GB usage on that partition. Thanks for all your help in making the clone to SD possible.
Personally, I would plug the card into a computer and shrink the Swap partition, its a waste of space. 256MB is good enough. Oh, and 7GB for the OS seems like a lot as well, why so much. Even if you put KDE, etc, into it, it will be smaller than 7GB. Also, Debian Chroot runs from the FAT partition...


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