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obstacles can kill 2008-05-03 22:11

Worst Nokia N810 review ever.
 
I thought that some might get a kick out of this. Sorry if it has already been posted but I haven't seen it on here. I was browsing Best Buy's site and came across the "customer reviews" for the N810 and found one describing the N810 as "the best phone ever designed". This is either a staged review used to hype up the product (and done horribly wrong), a complete *****, or Best Buy has magically gotten an advanced model of the N810 that has a cellular radio (considering the "reviewer" apparently gets reception EVERYWHERE!).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...n810review.jpg

Underscore 2008-05-03 23:00

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Wow, this really does seem staged, however very horribly. I guess they could have been referring to VOIP when they say "reception" but it's not like you get wifi EVERYWHERE.

krisse 2008-05-03 23:16

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If you look hard enough there's all kinds of weird, misleading reviews on retail sites. I wonder if some people post on there drunk or on drugs or something. There seems to be very little quality control, judging by the number of "Free Xbox - click here!" spammers who make it onto review sections.

When Nintendogs came out there were reviewers posting on Amazon telling people to wait for the Sony PSP version. Which isn't going to happen, obviously.

Underscore 2008-05-03 23:24

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Lol, PSP version? Sounds like a bunch of trolls.

siralien 2008-05-04 08:16

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It's not uncommon for staff at a firm to post reviews of a product they are selling to boost awareness. I always ignore those comments as many are faked. Sadly it's often those who know least about a product which seem to post.

krisse 2008-05-04 21:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by siralien (Post 177760)
It's not uncommon for staff at a firm to post reviews of a product they are selling to boost awareness. I always ignore those comments as many are faked. Sadly it's often those who know least about a product which seem to post.

They probably have to post for dozens of products, don't have time to look up all their details.

To be fair to the "reviewer", loads of shops STILL list the Nokia tablets in their "phone" section, and they list the iPod Touch in their "music player" section. Retailers seem to be struggling to classify them.

Underscore 2008-05-05 00:09

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Yes. It seems anything branded Nokia is automatically considered CELL PHONE and anything with "iPod" in it is a MUSIC PLAYER. Music player seems fair for the Touch, though it does so much more; it's certainly not a PDA though. But the n800 is certainly NOT A CELL PHONE. I'd consider the n800 a umpc, though not by default; you kind of have to customize it to actually consider it a umpc.

txneo 2008-05-05 00:44

Re: Worst Nokia N810 review ever.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by obstacles can kill (Post 177662)
I thought that some might get a kick out of this. Sorry if it has already been posted but I haven't seen it on here. I was browsing Best Buy's site and came across the "customer reviews" for the N810 and found one describing the N810 as "the best phone ever designed". This is either a staged review used to hype up the product (and done horribly wrong), a complete *****, or Best Buy has magically gotten an advanced model of the N810 that has a cellular radio (considering the "reviewer" apparently gets reception EVERYWHERE!).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...n810review.jpg

To be fair, they're probably reviewing the N810 WiMax editon, which DOES have a cell phone radio. It really should have covereage EVERYWHERE. No?

obstacles can kill 2008-05-05 01:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by txneo (Post 177954)
To be fair, they're probably reviewing the N810 WiMax editon, which DOES have a cell phone radio. It really should have covereage EVERYWHERE. No?

not a chance.

the WiMax edition does not have a cellular radio. yes, the addition of WiMax functionality will extend it's wireless capabilities for those who sign up for WiMax service such as Xohm but no that does not mean that it will have a cellular radio and allow for coverage "everywhere".

besides, i think we all know that this review is just a case of bad marketing and/or a lack of research. i just thought that some may get a chuckle out of it.

Underscore 2008-05-05 01:40

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Agreed. Looks like it was just an advertising ploy, however inaccurate. It's kind of sad really seeing companies do this (if it wasn't in fact a genuine review) but I did get a kick out of it.

Texrat 2008-05-05 02:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by txneo (Post 177954)
To be fair, they're probably reviewing the N810 WiMax editon, which DOES have a cell phone radio. It really should have covereage EVERYWHERE. No?

Umm... not. That's a customer review, and the N810W isn't available yet. Besides, WiMAX is not fully deployed enough to provide the experience he mentions in all the places he claims to have been-- and the bands will be different, anyway.

What's odd is that I wrote the first N810 review for bestbuy and they failed to publish it. I'm still amazed. I did a great job. :rolleyes:

Underscore 2008-05-05 02:52

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One more reason to dislike Best Buy.

GeneralAntilles 2008-05-05 02:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by obstacles can kill (Post 177961)
. . . for those who sign up for WiMax service such as Xohm . . .

Fun fact, Xohm is a PAYG service with terms as short as 24 hours.

obstacles can kill 2008-05-05 04:04

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 177984)
Fun fact, Xohm is a PAYG service with terms as short as 24 hours.

that i did not know. thank you for the clarification.

Benson 2008-05-05 13:35

Re: Worst Nokia N810 review ever.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by obstacles can kill (Post 177961)
not a chance.

the WiMax edition does not have a cellular radio. yes, the addition of WiMax functionality will extend it's wireless capabilities for those who sign up for WiMax service such as Xohm but no that does not mean that it will have a cellular radio and allow for coverage "everywhere".

besides, i think we all know that this review is just a case of bad marketing and/or a lack of research. i just thought that some may get a chuckle out of it.

Coverage everywhere is not a reality now, or for a while, but it may be at some point; OTOH, it definitely has a cellular radio.

krisse 2008-05-05 14:36

Re: Worst Nokia N810 review ever.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Underscore (Post 177950)
Yes. It seems anything branded Nokia is automatically considered CELL PHONE and anything with "iPod" in it is a MUSIC PLAYER. Music player seems fair for the Touch, though it does so much more; it's certainly not a PDA though. But the n800 is certainly NOT A CELL PHONE. I'd consider the n800 a umpc, though not by default; you kind of have to customize it to actually consider it a umpc.

Exactly, it's very difficult to classify the tablets because they're really a new class of device. They're built around internet services, not native apps, so you can't really call them PDAs, but they aren't really phones either though you can use them with VOIP and connect them through phones.

I think this might be the biggest reason why so few shops stock the tablets compared to Nokia's phones, because shops like everything to fit into nice neat categories.

It's a bit like the way some television networks and retailers tend to classify all animations as children's programmes whether they're intended for children or not.

siralien 2008-05-05 15:33

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On the Nokia site one does have to select 'All Phones' in order to locate the N800 and N810 so not even Nokia are helping their customers understand how to market it.

sjgadsby 2008-05-05 15:42

Re: Worst Nokia N810 review ever.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by siralien (Post 178122)
On the Nokia site one does have to select 'All Phones' in order to locate the N800 and N810 so not even Nokia are helping their customers understand how to market it.

That issue was mentioned in an older discussion, and Texrat brought it to the attention of relevant folks within Nokia. Ari Jaaksi's working on it.

Texrat 2008-05-05 16:00

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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 178126)

Well... Ari escalated it. I'm afraid the root cause is embedded deep and wide...

krisse 2008-05-06 13:24

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Even Nokia's main european site has the tablets listed under "phones".

They ought to change it to say something like "phones and other devices", give them flexibility for the tablets and any future non-phone gadgets.

I wonder how much they've told their staff about this, one person on the tablet school's youtube channel swore that Nokia support staff had told them the N800 uses a sim card.


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