Keystroke List
 

Is there a definitive list of keystroke commands for the N810? A 'delete' rather than backspace key, for example. And 'home and 'end' keystroke combinations? And all the rest.

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They're standard X key names, I believe. Don't have a reference handy, though; try Google.

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I've never heard of X Keys! I'll googe lit as you suggest. Thanks.

Update: Done that. X Keys appears to be mainly for Mac and I can't find anything relevant in the pages Google throws up. I wonder if anyone from Nikia reads these forums? Maybe they could post a list?
Someone must know something or are all 810 user poking about in the dark?

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Ok, maybe I'm a little confused: What exactly do you mean by keystroke? Are you talking about the internal "code" that an onscreen key sends to a program? Or are you talking about handwriting recognition? Are you talking about remapping the onscreen keyboard? I apologize in advance if I'm just being obtuse.

-John

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No, keysyms for X window, AKA X11.

You may find them in /usr/include/X11/keysym.h, though the 'XK_' is typically left off. You doing xterm toolbar binds?

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All I'm looking for is a simple list of keyboard strokes to perform various everyday functions. For example, in Microb, if I hit Ctrl+w, it closes the window.
I'm looking for the complete list of available keystrokes with N810 keyboard. For example, having no 'home' or 'end' keys, what are the keystrokes for these. And every other one for very other function.

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Ummm... Not all keysyms are necessarily accessible from any given keyboard. In fact the only keyboard I know of that can access all X keysyms is Optimus Maximus; most keyboards don't even have a full complement of bucky keys.

So such a list would leave you sad anyway, as I'd bet home and end aren't there for most apps.

Moreover, as you say, in Microb, Ctrl+W closes the window. So you'd need a table for microb. But, in other apps, it may not do the same thing, so you'd need a table for every app you use.

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It's normal as far as I'm concerned to have a list of keystrokes for every app - all Windows and Mac apps come with a proper help file. Can you imagine using flight sim x without a list of keystrokes? Or Photoshop?
It seems absurd to write an application and then provide no instructions on how to use it. In fact it doesn't SEEM absurd, it is absurd.
Is there a home and end key? A delete as oppsoed to backspace key? These are everyday functions. I don't understand why they would be kept secret.

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I think you got the answer you needed in #2. The total list of keystrokes supported by the x windows system is AFAIK no different on the tablets than on any other *nix system. These can be sent programmatically to the x-server, and you should even be able to remap your hardware keyboard using something like xmodmap, so if you want your delete key to act like a backspace key, this is what you should look at.

If you are looking for the list of keystrokes you can get by pressing different buttons on the N810 hardware keyboard, I suggest a keylogger, and pressing buttons and combinations thereof on the keyboard systematically. I dont remember the name of one of these, but go ask google for an xwindows keylogger.

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I think lemmy is refering to keyboard shortcuts. He wants a list of the keyboard shortcuts available for each application, or at least a list of the ones commonly suported.

For example, in windows you have Alt+F4 to close window, Alt+Tab to cycle window and so on.

I don't think that such a list exists for the tablet. Each application has his own list of keyboard shortcuts. You can learn them if you have the hardware keyboard out and browse through the application menus.

Lemmy also wants to know which combinations of keys he has to press in order to obtain the behaviour of missing keys, such as "delete", "Tab", "PgDown", "PgUp", "Home", "End". Unfortunately, these combinations of keys do not exist by default. You can modify the keyboard configuration file in order to obtain them, but this is not for the beginner. I'm planning to write a detailed tutorial on this subject.

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Keylogger? Wouldn't be xev enough? Of course, you have to run xev from a different computer, via ssh, in order to have the main xev window in the tablet receiving the input focus, and at same time being able to see see (in the remote terminal) the x-window event generated in the tablet. I did so, and learned a lot.

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I'm gobsmacked! I wonder how many people would buy this device if they knew this would be the answer to the question 'What do I press to shift the curser to the end of the document?'
It's like buying a quad bike and asking 'where's the starter?' and getting the reply, 'well, follow the wiring loom from the battery to the starter motor and trace it back behind the dash to the steering column and then press all the buttons and switches there until you find one you can adapt' :-)

Thanks for the replies, everyone.

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Well, I probably would. I didn't buy my N800 expecting a killer word-processor, you know...

The N810 has a nice little keyboard. But I wouldn't expect it to be one either. (And a marketing photo showing the keyboard would reveal that it has nowhere near enough modifiers to map all commonly used functions.)

To me, I guess I'd rather get that answer than the one Nokia would actually give:
Start it rolling, then pop the clutch. (Not even mentioning it has a starter, they just didn't have a button and so left it unwired.)

I consider the possibility of setting up Home, End, etc. combinations as a benefit (if not a readily accessible one) over the expected case of simply not having the keys, and hence not being able to send those.

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Lemmy,
The easiest way to get what you are describing is to use a bluetooth keyboard, which has those keys available to you. When I am doing and extensive writing, the n810 keyboard is too small for me, so I use an igo and things are fine....

just my 2 cents.

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Welcome to linux.

One of the joys of linux is the way that you use different keys for the same function in different applications. In fact on the desktop, you can even use the buttons of the mouse for different things. I have even been told this is an advantage of not being forced to use the same keys. Presumably there is a master list somewhere that you can consult to ensure that you are not using the same keys as someone else. :D

So in short, no.