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fms 2008-05-21 07:45

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
I have posted a new version 3.6.1 of iNES-Maemo to the web site (see my signature). Whoever is having speed problems, downoad the new version and see if it helps.

PS: 3.6.1 is not in the Extras repository yet, but will be tonight, when I sort out SSH key problems.

st5150 2008-05-21 10:04

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
Thanks fms! Amazing improvement in speed! What did you do to get such a big improvement? I would file the bug report you mentioned, but I don't know how. SMB1, SMB23, Punchout, Contra all work great.

Direct link to the deb.

http://fms.komkon.org/iNES/ines_3.6.1-1_armel.deb


Glass Joe is down for the count.

overfloat 2008-05-21 21:25

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
Thanks! the speed looks awesome. Maybe even a little too fast :P i think the speed is messing with my sound because the music is playing very fast and skipping in mario 3 and in pirates!

overfloat 2008-05-21 21:30

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
by the way... pirates! is the best game ever made... highly recommended for anyone using this emulator

mscdex 2008-05-22 04:15

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
Is it possible to remap the buttons/keys?

fms 2008-05-22 04:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by overfloat (Post 184384)
Thanks! the speed looks awesome. Maybe even a little too fast :P i think the speed is messing with my sound because the music is playing very fast and skipping in mario 3 and in pirates!

It is now running at the correct speed, at least according to the fps counter. But it does appear to skip sound a bit. Working on this.

fms 2008-05-22 05:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mscdex (Post 184520)
Is it possible to remap the buttons/keys?

Nope. If you are using a keyboard, the whole QWERTY keyboard is mapped to fire buttons. It is easier to find a pair of buttons that is comfortable than remap them.

zeez 2008-05-22 10:23

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
Hmm at least from the introscreens i can tell that it works a lot faster now. But now there is no sound and none of the buttons (neither hard nor soft on my n800) work :( Anyone having the same issue ?

overfloat 2008-05-22 10:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zeez (Post 184572)
Hmm at least from the introscreens i can tell that it works a lot faster now. But now there is no sound and none of the buttons (neither hard nor soft on my n800) work :( Anyone having the same issue ?

i had this problem -" you need to change your input settings and select "fbasic2j keyboard" in the ines configuration menu

fms 2008-05-22 11:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zeez (Post 184572)
Hmm at least from the introscreens i can tell that it works a lot faster now. But now there is no sound and none of the buttons (neither hard nor soft on my n800) work :( Anyone having the same issue ?

Does not occur here. All buttons work. Also, enabling FamilyBASIC keyboard should not make any difference.

yosh 2008-05-24 03:48

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
this was working perfectly and then i updated ines from the application manager and now the buttons no longer work. help please! i tried removing ines and then reinstalling it with no luck

zeez 2008-05-24 08:06

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
@yosh I had the same problem. Uninstalling/reinstalling worked for me however...

yosh 2008-05-24 09:41

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
weird, i'm not sure what i did to make this continue not to work

fms 2008-05-24 09:50

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
DPad center will no longer work as START button. Please, use right-lower screen corner for START or press dpad center with a SHIFT or CTRL key.

yosh 2008-05-24 19:00

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
i think it's really awesome that you respond to these, fms, and i appreciate it, but so far, the lower right screen doesn't respond to anything. since there is no slide-out keyboard, how does one ctrl/shfft the dppad center? thanks very much for the help.

yosh 2008-05-24 19:36

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Okay, hereś the update. If I hook a keyboard up via USB, I can ctrl/dpad button to start, and then the fire buttons work on the right side of the touch screen, but not until then. Surely there is a way to do this without having to hook a keyboard up. Im just not saavy enough to know how to do it. I really liked being able to use the dpad button as the start and fire button. Thanks for any help.

fms 2008-05-24 19:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yosh (Post 185527)
i think it's really awesome that you respond to these, fms, and i appreciate it, but so far, the lower right screen doesn't respond to anything. since there is no slide-out keyboard, how does one ctrl/shfft the dppad center? thanks very much for the help.

Lower-right screen corner responds perfectly on my tablet. It works as a START key. So, you are most likely doing something wrong.

fms 2008-05-24 19:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yosh (Post 185537)
If I hook a keyboard up via USB, I can ctrl/dpad button to start, and then the fire buttons work on the right side of the touch screen, but not until then.

Well, it means that the actual game you are playing expects a START button to be pressed on the NES joypad and won't accept any other input until you press the START button.

Quote:

Surely there is a way to do this without having to hook a keyboard up. Im just not saavy enough to know how to do it.
Start iNES. Look at your screen. You will see the black rectangle with NES screen inside. Touch the very right-bottom corner of the black rectangle: your touch should be interpreted as the START key. If you feel unsure where that corner is, select "Show cues" option from the menu: it will show you where sensitive areas are at the screen.

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I really liked being able to use the dpad button as the start and fire button. Thanks for any help.
Unfortunately, I started receiving complaints from other people who accidentally press that central dpad button while playing a game. As I am going to get complaints either way, I've decided to do it safely and require a modifier key (SHIFT, CTRL, etc) to be pressed. If you do not have a keyboard, you can always click the right-bottom corner instead.

yosh 2008-05-24 21:14

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
i'm not sure why, and i hate it, but the bottom right corner does not respond, nor does any other part of the screen, to touch. i had already tried the cues, too. the only thing that worked so far was hooking the keyboard up and ctrl/dpad from there. then everything works. i understand that people complained about dpad, and i think it was nice of you to respond and fix what they were complaining about. you can't please everyone, but at least you try. if i were to reinstall os2008 and start fresh with ines, would it have the old dpad button configuration available? or has the host download from maemo already been updated?

yosh 2008-05-24 21:21

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omg omg omg!!!! it works!! i'm an idiot!!! i needed the stylus, i wasn't pushing low enough with my finger. thank you so much for your patience and attention. if i can do anything about spreading the word about your product, let me know.

zeez 2008-05-25 18:18

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
Damn. With an update from extras i got today i have the same problem again: neither hardware keys nor touchscreen works. (Yeah i pressed hard enough and EVERYWHERE). Plus there is no sound, so i know something is going wrong. Unfortunately unlike last time, uninstalling and reinstalling does not help :(

fms 2008-05-25 18:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zeez (Post 185745)
Damn. With an update from extras i got today i have the same problem again: neither hardware keys nor touchscreen works. (Yeah i pressed hard enough and EVERYWHERE). Plus there is no sound, so i know something is going wrong. Unfortunately unlike last time, uninstalling and reinstalling does not help :(

Looking at the source code, there is no way it can happen, so I guess you are doing something wrong again. Just to be sure, check the gconf values under /apps/ines and post them here, although those values cannot lead to a problem you are observing.

izzo of wizzo 2008-05-29 17:50

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
hello,

is ines actually the best snes/famicom emulator ? and which one can handle .smc's?

thanks a bunch :D

Bundyo 2008-05-29 18:51

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
iNES is a NES emulator, not SNES...

izzo of wizzo 2008-05-29 19:23

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
yay I stand corrected.

so no snes emu for the n810 yet?

Bundyo 2008-05-29 19:33

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
Search a little :)

There is one, but kinda slow...

Masterphill99 2008-05-30 04:43

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
It doesn't start games for me. When I start to play a game, the application just closes

burnte 2008-07-29 06:01

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
To resurrect a dead thread (better than a new one I suppose) the sound issue is quite annoying, Seems to be the white noise generator.

http://burntelectrons.org/maemo-ines-glitch.mp3

I recorded Zelda as played by an emulator on a PC, and then by iNES on the 810.

Cptnodegard 2008-07-29 13:44

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Do you need anythign special to get this working? I get no sound and the controls dont work (only in the menu) for both dpad, touch screen and BT keyoard

fms 2008-07-29 22:18

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cptnodegard (Post 208191)
Do you need anythign special to get this working? I get no sound and the controls dont work (only in the menu) for both dpad, touch screen and BT keyoard

You do not need anything special, just a working ROM image. My guess is that the ROM images you are trying to run are somehow broken.

Omega 2008-07-31 01:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burnte (Post 208091)
To resurrect a dead thread (better than a new one I suppose) the sound issue is quite annoying, Seems to be the white noise generator.

http://burntelectrons.org/maemo-ines-glitch.mp3

I recorded Zelda as played by an emulator on a PC, and then by iNES on the 810.

Sounds like the noise generator (typically used for percussion) is being run for too long. The sound is right, it's just occurring for too long and so it sounds literally like you're getting a moment of white noise instead of a cheap percussion trick.
Sounds like your N810 game of Zelda was taken over by a horror movie. ;)

If I knew how to fix it, I would, but this could also boil down to a timing issue.

fms 2008-07-31 05:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 208816)
Sounds like the noise generator (typically used for percussion) is being run for too long. The sound is right, it's just occurring for too long and so it sounds literally like you're getting a moment of white noise instead of a cheap percussion trick.

Looks like it is caused by the fact that I am updating sound 60 times per second. This precision is sufficient for normal, melodic soundtrack, but percussion requires a higher value. Will try to fix.

burnte 2008-07-31 07:28

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cptnodegard (Post 208191)
Do you need anythign special to get this working? I get no sound and the controls dont work (only in the menu) for both dpad, touch screen and BT keyoard

Nope, it just installs and runs and works, except for the sound issues.

ArnimS 2009-08-12 02:20

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
this emu still rocks. i have a somewhat-working command-line one that runs fullspeed on 770, if anybody still is 'stuck' with one of those.

osmiley99 2009-09-01 22:07

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
if you want a game on the ines, vgb, vgba and mg to play at a fast speed, heres what you need to do, ok click on the menu where you would open a file to play a rom, scroll down and click on interpolation, you will notice that the game will play at the same speed as a video game system would.

osmiley99 2009-09-01 22:15

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
I be havin a blast with these emulators. i can play old gameboy, gamegear, master system, nintendo games. its kinda better to play gameboy games on a n800 because it has a blacklight, you can play black and white games in the dark, and most games can be fullscreen. I am desperately waiting for a sega genesis emulator that could be downloaded manually or easy, that would be awesome.

ac0kg 2009-10-06 18:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 185542)
Unfortunately, I started receiving complaints from other people who accidentally press that central dpad button while playing a game. As I am going to get complaints either way, I've decided to do it safely and require a modifier key (SHIFT, CTRL, etc) to be pressed.

FYI, the shift, ctrl + central dpad combo makes it difficult to use the right shift and ctrl keys for A&B buttons. These seem like the most natural buttons to use for A&B for me, as I can hit them quickly while mostly avoiding enter and '.'. Unfortunately I end up pausing the game when I press the center dpad button (which is most of the time as I try to rock my thumb across it like the original NES controller).

On another related topic, does the Wii controller work with iNES on the n810?

Rushmore 2009-10-06 18:49

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
What is the issue why NES and others seems hard to emulate on these devices? They seem to have plenty of power and memory. Heck, my $85 Dingoo plays NES, GBA, SNES, Genesis and MAME games 60fps and with sound.

Even plays the Metal Slug and KOF 2000 games smoothly with sound (it has an arm 433mhz).

Seem these Nokia devices should have the power to run through these like warm butter.

ac0kg 2009-10-06 18:56

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Well, FWIW, iNES runs Metroid great on my n810, I'm just having a little difficulty with the bitty little buttons.

bobthebuilder 2009-10-07 01:59

Re: iNES-Maemo 3.6 Now Officially Released
 
am I the only person who accidentally hits the back buttton which quits the program when play a game? (on an n800)


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