Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

I recommend running wireshark on the UPnP server machine to capture the traffic. The interesting part is the SOAP and other XML stuff going over the net.

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Christ. You would think that when someone repeats that they refuse to support a person, he/she would get the idea or be increasingly polite about it. But the fact is, being increasingly jerky totally makes developers listen to you.

That obviously was a lie.

Kthxbai

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

You, obviously, have an innate reading and comprehension disorder, like to troll around here trying to stir up trouble, and are often rude, dismissive, and misleading when you post.

Have we covered everything, or did you have a hidden question regarding the Canola UPnP plug-in somewhere in your snipe post?

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Your sig says that you've been Canola-free, briand. Congradulations!
No.
Yes.
Perhaps.

Because of how it works, the upnp plugin will fail for seemingly no reason. Root of the problem is actually briand. If you launch the upnp plugin after reading one of his lame posts, it will lock up Canola. Also, you won't be able to close it from the task switcher thing. No matter how many times you hit that 'x', it won't close. Don't fret, as you can kill -9 it.

Sorry to have to report this. Understand that it's my duty to do so. Call it a mistake on the developer's part, as this (probably) isn't supposed to happen. kill -9 will get you out if it freezes. S'all.

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Hei guys,
I don't want to moderate the thread by flames, I have been involved into this one already and it got anywhere. So please let focus on the bugs, it's working better now but it needs so much more work.

Navi : so it's not doing videos under ORB?

Briand : if you got back to canola, did it worked with your mythTV setup?

Marcelo

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Hi Marcelo,

I've just run the update and I've still go the issue involving not seeing folder contents after playback of a file. I can browse my media list play a file, but then when I navigate back to choose a file form a different folder, there is nothing lists in the contents.

All works fine using MediaStreamer.
Still using ushare as the server.

Any thoughts, or do you think this is a compatability issue with ushare ?

Thanks

Stu

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Nope, Orb is working perfectly. I just can't get audio to show up with fuppes and video (and long music lists) to work with mediatomb.

Progress meter
 

I'd like to see a progress meter next to the little busy arrow that chases its tail while Canola does something time consuming. The arrow is a good clue that I have to wait. Alas, I'm impatient and I want to know that Canola is really doing something instead of spinning madly in a loop.

I thought of this while playing with Canola and its UPNP support with my TwonkyMedia server. As I sat watching the little busy arrow chase its tail while Canola obtained the names of the 400-odd albums in my collection, I thought it would be nice if I could tell how far along Canola was in the process.

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Progress meter only make sense Tal, if you have a solid information of the end of your action. Example: you asked for a file, and you know in the beginning that it's a 100mbb file. Than you can do a progress meter. The spinning or a progress bar animated(but with no real meaning to the state of the bar.. the famous animated bar) is the same thing we just choose the simpler visually speaking.

So, twonky if it's sending small pieces, doesn't tell us how much lists there are there. Giving user feeedback (meaninful) it's a personal dream (as designer) but not always possible : / and the worst (sometimes is not related to canola -but there are a couple of places where we will improve it)

Marcelo

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Hello. I have been reading this forum for a while, but I have never posted. I hope someone can direct me to be able to install the latest Canola beta on my N800 (Chinook), so that I can try out the UPNP.

If I try to update my Canola2 install, it fails claiming a dependency on liblightmediascanner0. I have not been able to find a version of this that will install on canook. Can someone please direct me to how I can get this updated, and install the UPNP plugin to test it out.

I will admit that I hope to use this with my MythTV backend. I will try to avoid getting into any of the battles going on in this forum over MythTV. Just some info concerning the latest MythTV UPNP. I can easily access the MythTV UPNP server from my PS3. I can access and stream any recordings and most videos. The one issue that I have seen with recent MythTV (which is likely on the MythTV end), is that they only have 1 or 2 levels down for a shared directory structure. So, basically, if you have a videos folder that is being shared out with subfolders (ex. HomeMovies, TV, etc). It will show all videos at the root directory level as well as show all the folders, but if I try to browse down into one of the folders, it says that there are no videos available. Though I don't know it for a fact, I do believe that MythTV is pretty close (if not direct) in supporting the UPNP standard, since the PS3 UPNP support would never have explicitly put in support for MythTV directly (outside of installing Linux on the PS3).

The main thing for me is: Can someone help with the latest Canola (and UPNP plugin) install on an N800 with chinook? Many thanks.

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

hi dear friend marcelo

how are ya? do u remember me?

well i am still on my old problem and beta1


is there a new way for me?


:(

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Just wanted to give an update on this. I succesfully installed latest canola and the upnp plugin. I had to first install canola-clean and run that. After I did that, all was well.

I tried the latest canola with mythtv server upnp. I was able to get a listing of all my recordings, and start the streaming and playing of any of them. The issue that I did have was that the video seemed unable to play. I would see a frame, then a pause for several seconds, then another frame. I don't know if it is an issue with canola, the player, the streaming, mythtv, or the fact that the videos are 720x480 at around 7000 kb/s (likely the last, I am assuming).

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

First, let me say that I am in agreement with your earlier assessment of the UPnP implementation in MythTV... it has been my experience, as well, that most applications supporting UPnP seem to treat it as any other media server, so I doubt there's any fundamental flaw in the MythTV implementation that would cause problems in the connecting client software.

That said, if you've gotten it to list out your videos and start the streaming process, then you've progressed further along than I did, and you've conquered 99.9% of the UPnP portion of the equation...

Here, I would state that the video bitrate is definitely a problem -- perhaps not the only one, but that resolution and bitrate alone are going to keep that video from playing smoothly on your tablet. (if you were to copy the video directly to your tablet, you'd probably see the same exact behavior trying to play it in mplayer via the command line...).

I would recommend rigging up a script on your mythtv box to automatically transcode your recordings to something closer to an appropriate resolution/bitrate for the tablet. You can set it up as a post-recording task (either before or after comm-flagging) to run automatically from MythTV, or you can manually kick off a transcode script on specific recordings you want to watch via the tablet.

To that end, you can set up something using mencoder (probably already installed on your MythTV system) and work out the appropriate command line parameters, or you can adapt the tablet_encode application (referenced on this board fairly often) to handle the task.

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Yep. I had no problems with the listings after installing canola. Also, I already have a script to do the transcoding. I would use it, then sftp the video onto my n800. I was hoping that the n800 would support the playing of the full size stream (though, I didn't think it would). I will probably start using the script again. I will run some tests within the next few days and let you know if I can successfully stream the videos with canola.

I have an additional mythtv upnp question for you: mythvideo seems to only share out 1 level of folders for the the videos. I have a setup of something along the lines of /mythtv/videos/tv, for instance. The mythtv server only shares out the /mythtv/videos folder level. If I look at the listing via upnp (via PS3 for instance), I can only see the "tv" folder. Once I go into the folder, it says that the folder is empty. Is there a way of adjusting the level of sharing? Thanks.

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

It sounds like you're describing the exact situation in ticket #4914... (which was confined to the mythvideo plugin)... that ticket was closed in 0.21-fixes back in March (16557). What version of MythTV do you have installed?

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Not sure (will have to check). It is the latest in the Gutsy Gibbon repositories (did not compile myself (this time - that will teach me) ).

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Due to some reason (I don't remember why) it is not available for OS 2006. There are other alternatives for accessing UPnP on OS 2006, though.

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

I just installed Canola 2.0.0 beta9 and the UPNP plug-in v0.1.1 on my N810 (OS2008), and everything looks good - except that I can't scroll through the lists on the media server - no scroller is displayed, and trying to drag the list up or down with stylus or finger has no effect. Scrolling is fine with all the other media sources (local library,YouTube, iradio, etc), it's just the media server lists that won't scroll :confused:

Is there some secret key combination to scroll media server lists? Is this a known bug? or am I being very dumb (I am a little hung-over :rolleyes: ) ?

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Scrolling should work just like anywhere else. Maybe the UPnP plugin died while reading the directory contents so that you don't see more items than fit on screen. I experienced this quite often that folders are displayed empty or only with a few items.

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Marcelo,

can you recommend a compatible server for the intel mac which could transcode my divx/xvid files on the fly?

I have also tried to just rename some of the avi-files to mpg (just like yok3 did) and some of them played with like 10-20 seconds delay on start (was testing elgato eyeconnect).

If you need a volunteer for divx streaming testing, I can try it with Twonky or Elgato products, just give me a shout.

Thanks!

PS. If using DLNA instead of the broader defined UPNP would solve many issues, are you guys considering switching to sole DLNA support instead of UPNP?

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

DLNA is UPnP AV with some metadata extensions in the directory listings AFAIK. So I don't think it would make much of a difference on the client-side. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Canola beta9 UPNP (0.1.0 Alpha Release) Known issues, Bugs Feedback! Please Test
 

Hi

Not sure that this is the correct place to report bugs but here goes:

When trying to add a photocast I have found that the "Open with Canola" option does not appear in MicroB. (I have Canola tuning installed)

I then tried to manually add the URL and it would not let me use the N810 keyboard to paste (ctl V)

I then tried to type it and the Blue FN button does not allow me to access alternate characters.

I managed to install the photocast by turning on the on screen keyboard.

Great app thanks so much.

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I have a USB stick connected to the N810 with music on it, which I can play via the in built media player. Canola doesn't give me the option to navigate to this memory stick. iPod support might be a nice idea too as people seem to be starting to play music off that drive.