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siralien 2008-06-06 11:10

Stuttery video streaming
 
I have been trying to watch the Russia Today live stream from their website on my N810 but unlike the one from the BBC News site, this one seems to stop and stutter every minute or so.

Can anyone explain / help me overcome this :confused:

Marky

Ism 2008-06-06 11:26

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by siralien (Post 189302)
I have been trying to watch the Russia Today live stream from their website on my N810 but unlike the one from the BBC News site, this one seems to stop and stutter every minute or so.

Can anyone explain / help me overcome this :confused:

Marky

Look at this thread to watch internet tv includin many Russian channels:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19765

Mplayer plays Russia Today better than Media Player.
I use kmplayer and the channel list or you can call mplayer
directly from X terminal:

mplayer mms://wms.visionip.tv/RT

siralien 2008-06-07 10:23

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
I downloaded and tried this suggested app but the quality is worse than the default player with stuttering more frequent.

Do you have anything else to suggest and remember I'm not yet fluent in the technobabble that goes with this site so simple is good :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ism (Post 189304)
Look at this thread to watch internet tv includin many Russian channels:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19765

Mplayer plays Russia Today better than Media Player.
I use kmplayer and the channel list or you can call mplayer
directly from X terminal:

mplayer mms://wms.visionip.tv/RT


bunanson 2008-06-07 10:40

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by siralien (Post 189556)
I downloaded and tried this suggested app but the quality is worse than the default player with stuttering more frequent.

Do you have anything else to suggest and remember I'm not yet fluent in the technobabble that goes with this site so simple is good :-)

What system you are running? and what version of mplayer you are running? It would be helpful to upgrade your system to the latest OS, 2.2007.51-3 and the latest mplayer, which is mplayer.27. .26 and .24 are NOT as good as .27.
Try Videocenter too, I just upload a brand new version primary3.db, hope you like it.

bun

siralien 2008-06-09 11:32

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
I tried Videocentre and it would not start the steam. I tried the other players listed here too and they won't play it. Only the default player seems to load the steam but stops and starts all the time as if it's running out of RAM or caching each minute as it goes.

As for versions, I am using OS2008 2.2007.51-3.

This is bugging me big time now :-(

How can it be so hard?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 189561)
What system you are running? and what version of mplayer you are running? It would be helpful to upgrade your system to the latest OS, 2.2007.51-3 and the latest mplayer, which is mplayer.27. .26 and .24 are NOT as good as .27.
Try Videocenter too, I just upload a brand new version primary3.db, hope you like it.

bun


siralien 2008-06-09 19:54

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
Okay. Close to giving up on this one and declaring the tablet generally useless. I can't stream from iPlayer, can't stream from Russia Today and the battery only lasts half a day before dying whether in use or not. Should have saved the money I think. :-(

andrewfblack 2008-06-09 19:59

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
I just noticed no one asked how fast is the connection your are trying this on. That might have something todo with it.

siralien 2008-06-09 20:14

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
I use a 2Mb wireless network with a Cable connection at home. I have also tried with a 2Mb SDSL service at work and a fast wireless connection (speed unknown) at the cinema/cafe in Bristol. But even with that how could the battery drain so fast. It's a waste of energy to leave the thing plugged in all the time but without doing so the thing drains quicker than water down the plughole.

andrewfblack 2008-06-09 20:30

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
something you are running must be draining battery. I keep mine running all the time and when not in use it last days. The only time I have ever had it die in middle of a day was after 6 hours of GPS and web surfing over bluetooth with cell phone.

siralien 2008-06-09 20:43

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
I have the weather applet set to update every 24 hours and that's all. That can't drain power can it at that schedule?

Anyway, that doesn't solve the main problem. Why can't I get this device to stream this website properly? How can I adjust the settings somehow to cache more and/or stop the pauses when playing this stream?

siralien 2008-06-10 09:40

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
I guess noone has any ideas then?

Oh well. eBay it then. :-(

Ism 2008-06-11 05:13

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by siralien (Post 190363)
I guess noone has any ideas then?

Oh well. eBay it then. :-(

You haven't answered what is your mplayer version.
From Xterminal
mplayer --version
prints your version. I have MPlayer 1.0rc1-maemo.27.n8x0

Try to install that version or newer. Mplayer .27 plays
RT much better (less stutter) than Media Player.

There are also many mplayer command line options. Try
to increase your cache (300 is default for RT?)

mplayer -cache 512 -framedrop mms://wms.visionip.tv/RT

Best of Luck or eBay :D!

siralien 2008-06-11 16:06

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
The mplayer version is the same as you describe as I downloaded it fresh.

I typed the command and it seemed to be a whole lot better. Some jerkyness but no longer pausing every short while.

Two further questions therefore, a) why is the drop down menu option in mplayer unavailable when I run the stream this way? and b) how can I create a shortcut to select with my finger or stylus to save typing this command in each time?

Serge 2008-06-11 17:57

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ism (Post 190776)
mplayer -cache 512 -framedrop mms://wms.visionip.tv/RT

Don't forget one of the most important options: -quiet

siralien 2008-06-11 19:04

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
Well that seems to work too.

I tried with RTR Planeta (mms://live.rfn.ru/rtr-planeta_128) and it worked with that one as well. However does anyone know how I can turn these command line entries into a shortcut to simply select?

alephito 2008-06-11 19:39

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
You can use Personal Menu and set individual items with each stream.

bunanson 2008-06-15 13:06

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by siralien (Post 190979)
...how can I create a shortcut to select with my finger or stylus to save typing this command in each time?

There are at least 11 different ways to do it, which one suit you? http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=20997, thread #9

bun

siralien 2008-06-18 20:20

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
The stream for Russia Today seems to have changed and I cannot see how to make this work anymore. Can anyone help?

Also the TV5 stream from Latvia only plays the intro. Can anyone help me?

Ism 2008-06-19 18:03

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by siralien (Post 193251)
The stream for Russia Today seems to have changed and I cannot see how to make this work anymore. Can anyone help?

Also the TV5 stream from Latvia only plays the intro. Can anyone help me?

Russia Today seems to play. You had problems with stutter, try this
(increase cache, -quiet suppresses some console output which
reduces processor load)

mplayer -quiet -cache 800 -framedrop mms://wms.visionip.tv/RT

TV5 is mms://stream.grafton.lv/live_tv5
With my Windows XP Media player it plays fine (not just intro).

With Internet Tablet it plays only the intro because Internet
Tablet doesn't support internal mms playlist format (I don't remember
where I heard this: mms stream is proprietary format and
Linux programmers don't know how to interpret that stream
fully) so it plays just the first stream entry, in this case, the intro.

GeraldKo 2008-06-20 02:32

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
Similar question. I'm trying to play The Colbert Report using the stream on Hulu.com. It plays in Adobe Flash. It doesn't seem I can download it. So I get a very choppy, frame-dropping, out-of-synch audio/video stream. Is there a way for this to play through MPlayer or anything else to improve the experience? (It plays much more smoothly on my laptop using the same connection. On the laptop, there are periods where the stream just stops and the buffer loads, whereas on the N800 it just stutters along without taking these buffering time-outs.) Thanks in advance.

(Been gone awhile, so I'm sort of rusty. Too shy under these circumstances to include my old signature with the advice to Newbies. :o )

bunanson 2008-06-20 04:11

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 193718)
...(Been gone awhile, so I'm sort of rusty. Too shy under these circumstances to include my old signature with the advice to Newbies. :o )

Good to see you back, look at your clone thread, newbies screaming for help during your absence, and I think I took care a couple for you....

bun

bunanson 2008-06-20 04:14

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 192271)
There are at least 11 different ways to do it, which one suit you? http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=20997, thread #9

bun

Did not get any response from siralien, he must have ways #12?! Mind to share, uh?

bun

siralien 2008-06-20 06:08

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
Odd that. For the past few days the RT stream didn't work and looking at the website I noticed the stream had changed into one starting with http:// but your link seemed to work fine again.

The inability to play the TV5 stream is disappointing. Is anyone on the mplayer dev team out there to fix this problem? Probably end up with yet another media player knowing our luck. :p



Quote:

Originally Posted by Ism (Post 193591)
Russia Today seems to play. You had problems with stutter, try this
(increase cache, -quiet suppresses some console output which
reduces processor load)

mplayer -quiet -cache 800 -framedrop mms://wms.visionip.tv/RT

TV5 is mms://stream.grafton.lv/live_tv5
With my Windows XP Media player it plays fine (not just intro).

With Internet Tablet it plays only the intro because Internet
Tablet doesn't support internal mms playlist format (I don't remember
where I heard this: mms stream is proprietary format and
Linux programmers don't know how to interpret that stream
fully) so it plays just the first stream entry, in this case, the intro.


siralien 2008-06-20 06:10

Re: Stuttery video streaming
 
I have started to use the Personal Menu app but it's not flawless. When I enter the command to play the stream it opens two Xterm windows which need closing after I have closed mplayer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 193732)
Did not get any response from siralien, he must have ways #12?! Mind to share, uh?

bun



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