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lucag 2008-06-10 11:23

Making apps
 
hello.
I want to make an app for OS 2008, but i'm only a student, not a good developer. So, is there any simple sdk software (like iphone sdk, with compiler, simulator, using drag and drop...) to make applications for maemo?
Thanks
Bye

andrewfblack 2008-06-10 12:12

Re: Making apps
 
Here you go free of charge :)

http://maemo.org/development/sdks/

iancumihai 2008-06-10 12:20

Re: Making apps
 
no drag&drop though, go with MS.VisualStudio for that.

Beware that it will wash your brain and you will never understand real programming, library linkage, versions, paths ... etc ... etc ...

andrewfblack 2008-06-10 12:22

Re: Making apps
 
Drag and Drop wont teach you anything. I bet I'm the last person in the word that sites makes websites by typing HTML instead of using a WYSIWYG program.

iancumihai 2008-06-10 12:24

Re: Making apps
 
nope, you're not the last one

lucag 2008-06-10 12:27

Re: Making apps
 
I've said that i'm not a professional developer! i'm a student, and i only want to make maemo a better system, with better software and features. Yesterday was "born" the new Iphone 3g. It's time to make Nokia n810 a better product!

So, making apps for Maemo should be difficult? Strange..

andrewfblack 2008-06-10 12:34

Re: Making apps
 
No but if you are a student I would say if you really want to learn how to program take your time and learn the hard way. That way in the long run you will have a better understanding on how to debug your programs. I have real problem with Drag and Drop programs but you should try and go beyond them also if not now some day.

dont 2008-06-10 13:29

Re: Making apps
 
Well there is Eagle:

http://www.gustavobarbieri.com.br/eagle/docs/eagle.html

which is a bit rough, but does work.

Or, you could write webapps for the browser which might run acceptably once the FF 3.0 Gecko engine is available on the tablets.

Otherwise, prepare to spend a lot of time learning Scratchbox and how to write programs that only run on the tablets (Hildon-specific). Sad, really.

lucag 2008-06-10 13:58

Re: Making apps
 
Ok. I understand. Thank you..
Well...there isn't any simple software to program maemo software....
someone know When will Nokia release a software update (of Maemo os 2008)?
Just two informations:
-Is possible to have something like multi touch or gestures on Nokia? Why?
-is possible to have something like accelerometer in Nokia n810 (I know that in Nokia n810 there isn't a accelerometer, but I read some article about a new technology that use only the device's camera. (read this: http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS2030800893.html)?Why?
Thank you very much for your attention
Bye
Luca

stale 2008-06-10 14:17

Re: Making apps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quoddix (Post 190404)
I've said that i'm not a professional developer! i'm a student, and i only want to make maemo a better system, with better software and features. Yesterday was "born" the new Iphone 3g. It's time to make Nokia n810 a better product!

So, you don't know about programming, don't want to learn about it but you think you could do better programs than those available until now?
I don't want to prevent you doing that, just think about the way you are going to do it.
However there are many ways to improve programs (feedback, documentation, translations, testing, bug reporting...), not just programming: choose the one more suitable for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by quoddix (Post 190404)
So, making apps for Maemo should be difficult? Strange..

I think making good apps is always difficult.

sjgadsby 2008-06-10 15:18

Re: Making apps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quoddix (Post 190445)
-Is possible to have something like multi touch...


No
.

Quote:

...or gestures on Nokia?
Sure. There are some basic ones built into the keyboard, and additional gesture support could be added.

Quote:

Why?
Marmosets.

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-is possible to have something like accelerometer...
Yes, via a Wii Remote.

Quote:

...a new technology that use only the device's camera.
Work has already been done on this.

qwerty12 2008-06-10 15:19

Re: Making apps
 
Quote:

-is possible to have something like accelerometer...
Yes, via a Wii Remote.
There is also Harbaum's Tiltstick.

lucag 2008-06-10 15:21

Re: Making apps
 
Well, I love Maemo, Nokia n810 and all the softwares for OS 2008, but, yesterday I saw the Keynote of the Iphone 3g, and I think it is going to have better softwares than the Maemo softwares.... I really enjoy all the work you are doing! You're excellent! I only want to suggest something new for Maemo........only this....
for example:
someone know When will Nokia release a software update (of Maemo os 2008)?
Just two informations:
-something like multi touch or gestures on Maemo platform...
-something like accelerometer in Nokia n810 (I know that in Nokia n810 there isn't a accelerometer, but I read an interesting article about a new technology that use only the device's camera. (read this: http://www.windowsfordevices.com/new...0800893.html)?
Thanks for the attention and sorry for my bad English...
Bye
PS: someone know When will Nokia release a software update (of Maemo os 2008)?
byee

sjgadsby 2008-06-10 15:36

Re: Making apps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quoddix (Post 190480)
someone know When will Nokia release a software update (of Maemo os 2008)?

Oh, I'm sure someone knows the scheduled date. qgil, for instance, but he's unlikely to talk. There's been speculation though, that the next update will be released near the end of this month.

Benson 2008-06-10 15:38

Re: Making apps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quoddix (Post 190480)
Well, I love Maemo, Nokia n810 and all the softwares for OS 2008, but, yesterday I saw the Keynote of the Iphone 3g, and I think it is going to have better softwares than the Maemo softwares.... I really enjoy all the work you are doing! You're excellent! I only want to suggest something new for Maemo........only this....
for example:
someone know When will Nokia release a software update (of Maemo os 2008)?
Just two informations:
-something like multi touch or gestures on Maemo platform...
-something like accelerometer in Nokia n810 (I know that in Nokia n810 there isn't a accelerometer, but I read an interesting article about a new technology that use only the device's camera. (read this: http://www.windowsfordevices.com/new...0800893.html)?
Thanks for the attention and sorry for my bad English...
Bye
PS: someone know When will Nokia release a software update (of Maemo os 2008)?
byee

Any other comments you wish to repeat?

Yes, I bet someone knows; they work at Nokia, and would put their job at risk by telling us an exact date. Plus, plans do change due to exigencies, so they might be wrong anyhow. They'd be complete idiots to tell you the date.

Community consensus is pretty strong that Diablo will be released in a month, or perhaps a little more if things slip; but I have to wonder why and how much you care, if you can't be bothered to do any research or thought of your own?

You might re-read sjgadsby's reply above, WRT the other queries.

lucag 2008-06-10 15:41

Re: Making apps
 
Gestures for "scrolling" photos or like this, not for the recognition...
Thanks

sjgadsby 2008-06-10 15:44

Re: Making apps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quoddix (Post 190493)
Gestures for "scrolling" photos or like this, not for the recognition...

Right. As I wrote:
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 190477)
...additional gesture support could be added.

Someone just needs to write software to use gestures for that sort of thing. There's nothing in the tablet software or hardware to prevent it.

lucag 2008-06-10 16:06

Re: Making apps
 
oh, ok....I've understood all. Thank very much...
Bye


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