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It does seem that way but I don't think it really is, I thought GA was a **** when I first game here but he has grown on me. Even though we seem to not agree on well everything.

Edit: No offence intended GA.

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a little...huh..you have supposed gurus telling people to search...nice...real nice...:)...even trying to justify it to others...using a snr anology...:eek:..its all well and good...to do repetitive searches...if you have the time...and are so inclined the people who discover new things could make a wiki page...so people dont have to wade thru 20 pages to find the answers

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ga has to have a thick skin by now...and he does answer his pms...which is where i ask all of my duh questions:)

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Not all of use give just search it answers I for one help people when ever I can and if I find an answer for someone I try and wiki it. I think I am in the top 10 or some of people who post stuff to wiki. When ever I see a just search it post I try and find the answer for people. So they don't feel bad about people telling them to search search search. Now if there is an active topic we are posting on that day and they can find the answer they are an idiot. :)


Edit: What the Heck is this thread even about anymore?

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Oh Joe you do NOT want to drag up that argument! If you really thought about what you just said but from the perspective of a "guru" you'd see some fatal flaws in it... ;)

It's about what happens when a cathartic rant runs out of steam. :D

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some of what i said is true...others not so...not tryin to argue...and i will rescind if someone explains it to me why its a bad opinion to have im not sayin that all the guys/gals whose thread count is over 1000 dont try to help...heck since ive been here ive seen alot repeated questions.. human nature to ask not look...imho

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Wait since I only 223 post I'm not a guru yet. Thats cool, but I think Reggie needs to add a new User Title "Tablet Guru".

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What I was alluding to is that EVERY "guru" here is an UNPAID volunteer... with no sort of recognition whatsoever other than the word Thanks on occasion... and you're complaining about the time questioners have to expend in searching. What about the time experts have to expend in repeating the same answers over and over and over and over and over again (which, ironically, drives up the post count)? Or the time they would have to expend in maintaining the wiki?

I'm not trying to be confrontational. I'd just like you to think about the flip side.

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@andy i agree...over say 2000 tablet guru....and the number i stated was arbitrary....
@texrat...It's about what happens when a cathartic rant runs out of steam. ...vey true....:p...and in response to that last...your right...al the poeple who have struggled to glean that gem of useful info do deserve credit...more than just thanks...as for unpaid thats true too...just very satisfied that they contribute (assumption)

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Ah, I love it when trolls move on.

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Typing two or three relevant words into the Google search box on the site's main page and hitting submit takes less time and effort than typing up a post and waiting for replies.

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On that note, may I request to everyone contributing wiki articles to start doing it over at the new maemowiki? It's really much better suited to be the centralized wiki than the abortion over here current being described as a "wiki" and even has some paid help to maintain it. ;)

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tex that last post didnt come out like i whanted...dont help my toddler just ran off with my mouse...i do appreciate all the contributions in whatever form they come in,....whether it be in long threads that contain alot of usefull info or short to the point wikis that may have to be updated...its all relative...and i have pateince...that some of the current projects cand be compiled into one easier to digest form....

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No problem Joe... I was really just intending to give you a heads up that you were popping open a can of raging worms... ;)

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Well I'm sure this is going to start a big argument but, as long as itT has a wiki I will prob put my stuff here and there now. I just hope maemo.org doesn't add a forum and want us to leave here.

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actualy it helps that lately i have been just searching...and wishing that i could contribute like some others ...well time to put max (toddler)down for a nap...ill pick this up later...on my n800...ga thanks for the heads up on the wiki

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... I really can't post what I want to reply to that as t would most definitely be seen as trolling. :D

Back to the point some are making about searching. If 100 people search once, and put the answer up on maemowiki, that's a darned sight more fair than four unpaid volunteers doing it 25 times each.

If this was the official Nokia Internet Tablet Support Forum (tm) then I would expect answers to be provided, but it's not, it's a community website. We are all in this together. :)

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Why? The itT wiki sucks. It's a cesspool. The maemo.org wiki has lots of maintainers, is fresh, new and looking up. What's the point of fragmenting things here (it juts makes it harder on the people looking for help). I definitely understood the point when maemo.org was using that atrocious midgard wiki (a warm bucket of spit was more usable than that thing), but we've moved over to mediawiki, so the the itT wiki is the one falling behind here.

It's not about two separate communities replicating functionality (see the itTSS fallout for that), it's about each website focusing on what it does best and the community using both. In this case, maemo.org is the better wiki, and itT is the better discussion forum.

Why cause more difficulty for users?

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Maybe the maemo wiki needs to be syndicated into the itT wiki. :D

/ducks and runs

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Freakin' Carrefour sells the things in Belgium.

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How about if Nokia packaged the together with a BT phone and did a deal with the cell-phone providers to subsidize them in return for a multi-year contract?

I am not personally interested in such a deal, but it would get the Nxxx out in the wild. Right now, you have to know they exist and really, really want one to be bothered to find out how to buy one.

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That's a darn good idea IMO.

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thanks, but no thanks. i prefer sonyericsson handsets but i love the nokia N800 for its linux base ;)

now, if nokia starts shipping linux based phones that are as open, or more so, as the N800, im game.

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I see the Archos 605 4GB WiFi is a close match to the tablets price-wise and spec-wise (same size screen, SD card compatible, etc). None of the other Archos MPs seem to fit.

And Archos claims they play "up to DVD resolution" without transcoding. Anyone have one? Can it play a video at the full screen resolution of 800x480 at at least 24fps?

Interesting... they have an "optional Opera browser plugin"... "Optional" smells like "more money"

Oh, and the Pepper Pad is exactly what I'm NOT talking about. It is 2.5 to 3 times the price of an N800.

Nice to see that you still visit the forums to post snarky comments, though!

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Everything about the Archos is "more money". The browser (which pretty much sucks), more codecs (mpeg2 was $29.99 last time I checked), etc, etc

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Indeed. IMHO, it just makes them look like tramps.

As soon as my friend connected his Archos 605 wifi to the internet and plugged in the charger, a window came up advertising the dock which can charge too for it :rolleyes:

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I'm hunting around, trying to find out about the video playback. I came across this review which claims the browser is better than the N800's (circa Summer 2007). Interesting that they'd even mention the N800.

I'm trying to find out if they play back the video at full resolution, or if they cheat and have a way to down-sample on the fly. The reason I'm wondering is because I'm wondering if the NITs would have that ability -- decode a hi-res video, halve the resolution, pump it through the LCD controller bottleneck, and then double it back up using the overlay. The video would look decent, the user wouldn't have to transcode, everyone would be happy...

EDIT: It is very frustrating. Nobody puts these devices through rigorous testing, like they do at the camcorderinfo.com website. Yes, I know what the posted playback resolution is, but what's the actual playback resolution? Did you display a test pattern and see if there were any missing pixels? No, of course not...

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As far as I remember, the 605 can output 720p. Being a PMP, it's got very good hardware decoding.

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The claim is that it can output 720p, with the optional DVR station. But I want to know if the Archos has the same bottleneck that the N800 has, and if they work around it by reducing the video resolution after decoding it. But nobody does rigorous testing.

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OK, then everyone's happy?

(Yeah, it needs some integration; the script is great for CLI-happy wierdos like you, but Canola really should handle it... or something.)

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i though that was what linux in general was for...cli happy people...

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I seriously think that method should be shoehorned into a future Mediaplayer or Canola update. I guarantee that 90% of people who transfer their DivX videos-of-questionable-origin to their tablet and then press "Play" will not care, nay, they will not notice, if the video is down sampled before playing. But they do notice if the video playback is choppy.

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Yes, I agree. But scripts are good for experimentation... <elite>once we get the parameters right, then it can be produced for the masses.</elite>

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Actually, I paid almost exactly the same amount for my Pad as what I forked over for my N800, but I agree that new it was more expensive than a N800. Then again, the Pad has a thumbboard, so maybe it should be compared with the N810?

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It fitteth not in my pocketeth!!

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I already acknowledged that in my first reply. Also, it needs 12 volts to charge, it's white and it doesn't have a SD slot. I think that covers everything.

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A white gadget? Blasphemyeth!

No, you missed that it's named after the principal ingredient of tarts. (That's a bad point, in case you couldn't tell...)

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pepper tarts benson...yummy...

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Treacle, I say in a sleepy voice behind Benson.