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Might I also suggest copying the Nokia Sans font from the device to at least use the right font for the title ;) :p
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Is the Nokia Sans font covered under copyright laws? Ah ... nevermind. I'd hate to see this thread morph into such a debate. :D |
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OSEmuTech how the heck did you overclocked your tablet to 416Mhz !?!?!?
I want to do that too!!! So that's real! Windows CAN make your device faster! ;) |
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Yeah I'm sure I'm going to get flamed for this but thats what makes forums fun but there is a verison of Windows CE for Embedded for ARM proccessors so in theroy couldn't someone get this working. Of course it would be free link most people want it to be.
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KJ's antics remind me of the famous thread over at the A/V forums on watercooling.
http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56924 |
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Sigh, now that Benson linked here, I've come back and realized that OSEmuTech actually did what I wanted and posted a screenshot of WinMo in VNC. (I didn't have auto-subscribe turned on at the time I posted my request.)
A couple of questions: 1) Is that really the resolution of a typical WinMo device? It looks microscopic on the N800! 2) Are there any 800x480 WinMo devices out there? What about 400x240? 3) Is there any way to emulate a 800x480 (or pixel-doubled 400x240) WinMo device on a PC and then use VNC to display it fullscreen on the N800? |
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1) Yeah, QVGA is not awesome. It's fairly typical.
2) Well, the Axim X51v has a VGA screen (about the same pitch as the N800, in fact), and some others do, too. 800x480 is much rarer; the only device I've heard of is the HTC Touch HD. 3) I know the device emulator will happily emulate that resolution. As for VNC, well, of course. The emulator's not the awesomest thing in the world, of course; VNC over BT to a real WM device would probably be more useful. (And more expensive...) If you really want screenshots, I can probably get some together... I don't have VNC on my laptop, and I don't have the winmo device emulator on my desktop. |
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Ok, here it is...
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Hilarious. Thanks again, Benson.
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Not that Touch HD display will be much bigger :)
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If you consider the screen surface area (not just the screen diagonal), the Touch HD has 60% more surface area than the Toshiba 800x480s. The NITs have 18% more surface area than the Touch HD, and 89% more surface area than the Toshibas.
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Why are so many people against having a windows mobile emulator, it must be better than garnet and even if its not its still something that people would like to try.
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Well cant somebody make an emulator?
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Of course someone can; anything can be reverse-engineered and reproduced. But does it make any sense?
You mentioned the GVM; that wasn't the work of "somebody", that was from Access, the owners of Garnet, and is part of their business plan. So they have an easier time (because they have Garnet to start from), and more incentive (to make money). "Somebody" has neither of those advantages, so it's quite unlikely that someone's going to invest the time to do it. Still, if you think it's really worth it, get started. Whatever investment you may have to put into learning up-front is outweighed by the size of the project, so you're as qualified as the next guy. |
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I'm not a programmer so I don't know how much work s involved but it seems like a lot, because if I was I would be interested in making a windows emulator.
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Wow, the WINE FAQ hasn't been updated in some time(or whichever part of the website you found it on). Alpha processors and NT4 for Alpha being a significant discussion topic is almost humorous now. Long since that entry was made, people started bolting QEmu to WINE to run Windows x86 apps on non-x86 architectures. See http://bellard.org/qemu/qemu-doc.html#SEC69
It still wouldn't help much, as emulating x86 is slow by itself, then emulating ARM via the Windows Mobile SDK emulator would grind things to a crawl. However, emulating an entire device, particularly with a dynarec core, would be fairly practical. I stumbled across an emulator for a specific iPaq some time ago, it was meant as debugging tool for ARM Linux on that platform, but was complete enough to boot the Windows Mobile ROM for it. Porting that and optimizing that would be far less intensive than making a full-blown API wrapper, though it'd be of questionable legality (HP has the rights to the ROM, I suppose it'd fall under fair-use if you owned the iPaq in question). Still a bit too much effort for Age of Empires, Slay and a few other Windows Mobile apps, IMO, though. |
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I want an ms-office compatible app. the rest is just padding.
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yeah, wouldn't openoffice be nice?
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Oh, but OpenOffice is too bloated. Normal people can't be expected to use that! And you have to do complicated stuff like "dual-boot" and "Deblet" and stuff. Oh no, way to hard.
Or, just install Documents2Go on GarnetVM. Done. (ok, so you have to email it or bluetooth it to yourself, or wait until Access adds memory card support....) |
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Of course the simplest thing of all for something ms-office compatible would be to just finish abiword. It's most of the way there already. Best of all it doesn't involve legal grey areas, CPU emulation or OpenOffice's giant code base...
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Yeah, OO.o is waaay too slow. AbiWord is usably fast on the tablets.
I want to find just a .doc viewer...I don't even need to edit them most of the time, it would just be nice to be able to look at them. I would've sworn there was one for the ITs at one point, but I haven't come across it in a long time. Also, there's always Google Docs. For running other Windows stuff, there's always the possibility of rdesktop/VNC/etc to a machine running windows; that sidesteps much of the problem, if your connection is adequate. |
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http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/evince/ "Evince is a document viewer for multiple document formats. It currently supports pdf, postscript, djvu, cb, cbr, cbz, tiff and dvi." |
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Well, that still needs something to translate from .doc to one of those formats (most likely PDF).
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If you just want a MS Office doc viewer, but you don't want to mess around with Debian (oh come on, you know you want to!), you can always try Bundyo's "Biggest Viewer of them All", it will convert all types of MS documents to PDFs.
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Install Debian and be happy! ;) |
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Well yes, of course, that's my song too. Easy Debian "just works" to bring you all the apps you want without much hassle. However, some people only want MS Office compatibility. If so, then the Big Viewer (yes, it uses OpenOffice's conversion library) might be for you.
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links of interest for converting stuff to pdf
http://www.ros.co.nz/pdf/ http://www.fpdf.org/ http://www.tecnick.com/public/code/c...aiocp_dp=tcpdf http://www.lowagie.com/iText/ http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.pdf.html |
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