WiFi brief connections only
 

HI,

Edit: Ok, found the problem, my WiFi box was having problems, I replaced it and the Beta works fine.

With the '06 Beta My WiFi connections seem to be only lasting a
brief time. Sometimes only a few seconds, sometimes 10-100k of web
page.

I am using the same 801.11b+ router as before, DLINK DWL-900AP+

I power cycled the router and the device several times. I tried a few
combinations of 'turns-off' when cover on, and auto disconnect delays.
With no luck.

Anyone else having this problem? I would really like to at least install
the new fbreader - I can see it in the package manager - can't keep
the connection up long enought to download it!

Peter

This really makes me laugh.
People were griping and complaining for them to release the 2006 os, and they said they didn't care if it had bugs ( i did too )
But now, they cry when they install a beta image to their device, which CLEARLY says BETA in the filename.

You were warned, now live with it.

Personally I dont have any problems with the 2006 os, flashing went smoothly, and I'm not going to try downgrading.

I noticed someone said you can't undo the virtual swap? Not true. Mine was undone instantly.

Once again, good job nokia!

Perhaps you should just put your 770 back in the box it came in and return it?

Try following the documentation - Use the flasher-2.0 you can find here

Just to show you how lame my life is I trashed my 2006 install just to reflash to show it could be done. And as others have mentioned, it's not for the timid.

Brad.

Hmmm... maybe Nokia should have labeled this as a beta release?

Oh wait... they did.

Brad.

Bricked mine, too. Was trying to flash the new beta and it froze midway through. I gave it almost an hour to unfreeze, but it never did, so I figured "What the hell? I'll just reflash it" and terminated the process. But when I try to reflash, I get:

...and then it exits to the prompt.

Anybody have any ideas? I'll try to flash it again on a Windows box tomorrow, but that's about all I can think of.

Don't forget...
 

How about different icons for each Opera browser window that's open?

A very nice touch.

Not to mention no more 'musgo' phantom network connection, and combining the Globe and Phone icons (the new phone and WiFi icons look much nicer too).

Nice eye-candy for a beta release.

Brad.

i believe doom provided that adhoc connection ?

I tested it last night, my first impressions were like this:

+ The super huge keyboard, (much faster to work with)
+ Jabber/gtalk support is great
+ voip (couldn't test it but it's there)
+ lots of applets, and you can customize the places on your 'desktop'
+ Applicition installer, uses source.list now, apt-get in xterm
+ install wizard, helps you on first boot
+ good for privacy (remove all personal data option in de the browser)
+ list of contact, for IM, email, and additional options if you like...
+ extends memory to mmc card (swap)

- voip I couldn't test it, reason works with gtalk and gtalk is windows only... (atm)
- google applet ... it is neat to have a browser that has the option remove all personal data, but if the google search applets doesn't do the same ...
- unstable (it's beta, reboots sometimes)
- screen gets dirty with the big onscreen keyboard
- flash ... well there is flash but offcourse not flash 7, so no video google

Conclusion... it is an improvement
and there might be a hint that nokia is a bit waiting for google or google for nokia...
there is an option to register a gmail/gtalk account, but for now, it just opens a browser and stays on about:blanc...

Just reflashed back from the beta, works fine with flasher-2.0 in linux.

I can access to Google talk / chat only when connecting through my phone... Anyone had this problem? Other internet access (browser, email etc.) works flawlessly :-(

same here. I needed maemo mapper too bad.

Did not help disconnecting.

The only differance between this account that does not work and the one that does is that thia is a numerical address; 100777@gmail.com ?

This morning I thought it would depend (in my case) from the connection, I had a short phone connection to check email while I was out and did log in correctly, showing "online". Returned home, I couldn't access.

Cross tested again with the phone connection but now I do not go online :-(

I was very excited about Google services (was the main thing worth this upgrade) but now I am a little descouraged...

Oh, and... P.S. Both the accounts I tried (mine and my wife's) do not contain numbers :-)

yeah- Bluetooth phone tethered internet access is quite solid, but when connecting through my home wireless router, every couple of minutes it disconnects, UNLESS I AM STREAMING INTERNET RADIO WHILE BROWSING. When simultaneously streaming radio and browsing, the connection remains without disconnecting.
Home wireless connection remains stable through googletalk, too.

Overall a compelling beta. I don't think there is any turning back for me!

!

2006 Os
 

Flashed from windows - worked fine. Only problem - I had wolframs script on the old version so had a partition on my MMC and had swapped rootfile system out to it. I used cfdisk to delete the linux partition before flashing with 2006 but something went wrong and now the capacity of my 1 GB card appears to be about 700mb.

Anyone got any ideas? I've tried formatting the MMC from within the 770 as well as windows but I cant get it to go back to 1gb. Seems there's still another partition on there....although I cant see it.

As for the actual update - lots of nice features, the mic works well. The 64MB virtual memory was a bit of a let down as I expected 1 GB but hey - I'm not complaining! Will wait for the proper release.

No turning back for me either. :)

I hate to say it, but if you want that extra space, I think you're gonna have to reload the old OS. reload woframs script. go back into cfdisk, and do a proper delete of your old swap space. I think you might have only deleted the fat partition, and perhaps left the other one remaining.

I had a similar configuraton to yours and ended up deleting everything on my flash memory wih a card reader, hard drive media player called the WOLVERINE MVP, which was able to reformat the blank space as fat.

I had some issues deleting both partitions va cfdisk, but it was most likely due to my own incompetence... Now I have 975 mg on a 1gig card free, but i'll settle for that-
that-
for me either. :)[/QUOTE]

Bug finder
 

Well, where is Mike Cane to find all bugs? *shrugs* :)

root access ?
 

I'm surprised that no one has reported on this issue yet : how is root access in this version ?

** Screen problem **
Updated to 2006 beta OS last night. Went through the wizards to make a phone and WAN connection. I was enjoying the experience but got a problem when I restored my backup to access my bookmarks. First thing I noticed was that my connections would not load. The 770 seemed confused between my old and new data. I rebooted and the screen developed a problem: grey vertical bar running through the G of the Google search box and streaking of all images. I tried rebooting, taking out the battery, recharging but no effect on the screen problem. I then tried to reflash the device, but the Windows update wizard stops after 10% and throws up a Code 3 error, invalid image. Anyone experienced this or any advice on what to do next? Thanks for your help.
Bom

The Nokia guys probably started testing even before they started coding! :-) This because they have used many readily available (though horribly unfinished) open source components. On top of that there is the lots of regular testing and additional integration testing, as the Maemo project is much about using pre-existing components... If this was not tested at all I don't think about any of us would want to touch it (and not even many developers at Nokia...).

For the regular user it makes little sense to install this, as he/she will have to re-install in 2-4 weeks anyway when the stable build comes out (with some of its own issues no doubt). For the rest of us, it could be nice to hunt & report bugs and help in porting the important apps... once we have the critical mass of applications that are supported on the new version, this no way back causes a bit of fence-sitting, I have to see if I in fact depend on any 3rd party stuff yet...

And releasing the beta was a good idea/achievement, it goes with the rather open nature that this whole project has. Mostly it's intended for the developers who want to get their application supported before the end user version of 2006 OS comes out. But with public beta testing, you also reduce costs, improve quality, and get better customer satisfaction (since you get feedback earlier on the features).

Opera is definitly faster to load and scroll! The password manager is killer apps for me... The new icons for each opera open is great.

There are so many minor changes that i can say it s not the same things.


:) i love it :)

bradb: the "musgo" phantom network was from some of the multiplayer games (Doom, Battlegweled etc.) - since these haven't yet been ported (AFAIK), you won't get the phantom network back until you run them.

(Unless INDt fix it)

Cheers,

Andrew

Given there's no X Term yet (AFAIK), it's difficult to test.

There are two options:

1. It's enabled out of the box, through sudo
2. It'll be trivial to enable by installing a setuid binary through the proper package manager.

HTH,

Andrew

EXcited
 

I really have to say even if this beta is really "beta" the enhancments and addons, usability features are great.

For me the nokia was never really stable, opera went away sometimes mail openend or didn't depending on the weather and the angle i hold the tablet :p

So the Password saving and url completion get a big plus
also that possibility to arrange columns is great.

Goggle talk hmmmm google talk, i tried it it works really fine, the soundquality is ok on both sides and also the instant messaging works BUT
how many people do you know who use googletalk???
there isnt even a VoIp client fpr GoogleTalk available for linux.

So this is alittle problem for me, because i have a big skype buddylist but goggletalk seems for me being a hermit.
Probably there is a posibility to get the static skype package with qt compiled in running?? anyone tried, i cant at the moment becaus of missing xterm in the 2006 os


Just my few thougts about the update

Nice Weekend
Sebastian

MrNape : I think Tapioca is Google Talk compatible http://tapioca-voip.sourceforge.net/...ex.php/Tapioca

Anyway, I think that promoting Google Talk over Skype really worth the pain because it's an open protocol.

I can confirm, re-flashing back to the previous version with flasher-2.0 in Linux works. See http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_Fla...ImageWithLinux for details. The only step left out from the instructions is to make flasher-2.0 executable by chmod a+x flasher-2.0 before running it.

Only reason for flashing back is that I've just got my windscreen mount and I want to try out Maemo-mapper.

You'll get no sympathy here. The rocket surgeons round these parts seem to think it's OK for a label 'beta' on a piece of software to mean you can't remove it. Me, I thought the non-beta flasing software should still be able to flash in the non-beta image and that only the software in question -- the new image -- was 'beta'.

I've used Tapioca and the jingle cvs branch of psi to make and receive google talk calls perfectly.

Treo fans can now keep the phone in their backpacks.. OS2006 now pairs correctly.

I create a jabber user , someone can tell me how to connect msn ? thanks.

Clay,
Lets be positive about this. It may be the excuse we need to install Linux and use the Linux version 2 flasher to put things right. I can't think of any other way around it at the moment. I tried using Mac OSX flasher but no luck. I can't think of any other way around it at the moment. But I'm having fun and learning a lot and that is what the 770 is all about.
Bom

Clay -

No need to accuse us of being unsympathetic, we all understand the pain of having a bricked device - but we are not a "bricked 770" support group - what are we supposed to say, "Feel better mate, look on the bright side, at least you didn't buy a PSP?"

What is the appropriate response for us to give you. What would you like us to say? We're just trying to find answers and share experiences. And *we* are not the type to feel angry and start blaming other people when we have a problem. *We* includes you, yes?

Stop with the "Nokia did us wrong" attitude.

You already sound like you've already given up, picked up the old AK47, and are ready to give it a good sweep around the room. So let's take the chip off the shoulder and work together before you start turning into a forum troll. The 2006 OS update has been out for less than 24 hours so please, calm down.

Have you tried an Ubuntu installation and the linux flasher-2.0 through VMWare? Seems like it works.

The Linux flasher works for re-flashing back to the old OS. It states on the download page that only the Linux flasher is supported. I guess many missed that part. Can anyone elaborate on how to enable the terminal? Aflegg stated that the terminal is enabled by installing the setuid binary. Is this a local package or part of a repository? Can someone post a link or URL?

Sounds like your screen is broken. I had a similar problem a few weeks ago and needed to return it for repair.

I think you have got aflegg wrong, he was talking about getting root: either use terminal and usual sudo or setuid binary will run as root. But the terminal has not been ported yet (well, it's an important app for many people so maybe it already was :-))

Don't get me wrong. I am not panicking nor giving up. And I appreciate the positive advice. I have no linux system available, but I will try one of the bootable mini-linux images later today or tomorrow if I don't see a windows solution before then.

My anger is at the [idiots] who make the blanket statements like 'what did you expect for beta', or 'you were warned, it was marked beta' -- all of which are crap.

The status of the image [beta or otherwise] should have nothing to do with the functionality of the NON beta software used to flash it, particularly given the reputation [on this very board] of the 770 as being able to be brought back from virtually any disaster with a re-flash.

And further, if I had anything to do with putting up the image for download [and I have been part of software QC for a major silicon maker for 25+ years now, so this is an additional part of my frustration], I would have never put it up for download -- even an alpha version -- without at least testing -- and documenting -- recoverability with the recovery software and images from the same download site. That's 'rule one' in any software world in which I've been involved.

Even a statement that a 'new flasher is needed for the new image' [while not in the original link that started this thread] is hardly sufficient to warn a user that the OLD flasher won't reflash the OLD image.

My bad. I guess I was too hopeful.

Clay -
Cool beans.

Hopefully Nokia will start pushing out a windows version of the flasher-2.0 soon, as I need it too...

Has anybody had problems with mp3 files? I cannot listen to buzz out loud podcasts (at least not yesterday's and the day before).
In spite of that problem the new OS feels great.

clay - if youre running windows, have you used the nokia software update utility? It works for me....