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memson 2008-07-18 12:21

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handful (Post 197969)
Hi tokyo :
Photos always go trhough a "transconding" : this is great because it makes sure the UI will be always " snappy " but you have a dithered (low quality) photo no matter how good is your camera.

No this is not true. For example, I can get the iPod 5th gen to store both 'optimised' and originals. The same is true for the newer iDevices too. All you need to do is check the "upload full resolution images" checkbox.

Quote:

Originally Posted by handful (Post 197969)
Videos always go through filtering : only the specific h264 formats will go into and this is quite boring as you will have to convert almost any internet video nowdays : /

But, how do I fit my DVD in to my iPod without transcoding? Seriously..? I just use Handbrake, it created iPod files (optimised for TV) and also puts in the chaper markers. Chapter markers are a BIG deal... any player without chaper markers is a step down ;-) (and this, again, is a 5th gen iPod)

Files of other type... I have never got my N800 to play *any* video without transcoding... except very low res quicktime... the type of low res quicktime that plays on ipods happily (do you see the irony there? ;-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by handful (Post 197969)
And the same for music and so on.

Eh? My music is in MP3 or AAC format. The files are transferable to and from the iPod (in fact my N800 has now got stuff I grabbed off of my iPod last night on it.) Apple doesn't allow the reverse transfer with their tools, but there are at plenty of Windows and Mac tools that do this for free.

I think you are making a bigger deal about being "tied" by the iDevices than is really true.

memson 2008-07-18 12:24

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Does anyone else find that Canola will play short portions of random MP3's between songs and just plain hang about half way through an album? It might be the SD card I guess... except, the built in media player just "works".

Gorgon 2008-07-18 13:21

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by memson (Post 204371)
No this is not true. For example, I can get the iPod 5th gen to store both 'optimised' and originals. The same is true for the newer iDevices too. All you need to do is check the "upload full resolution images" checkbox.

While this is true, the device doesn't use the full resolution version for viewing, only storage. So it is true that the photos are optimized to be viewed on the iDevice screen and those are the only ones able to be viewed on the device. When you check the box and it loads the full rez versions you don't have two copies to view, do you?

memson 2008-07-18 19:55

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgon (Post 204387)
While this is true, the device doesn't use the full resolution version for viewing, only storage. So it is true that the photos are optimized to be viewed on the iDevice screen and those are the only ones able to be viewed on the device. When you check the box and it loads the full rez versions you don't have two copies to view, do you?

When you check the box it creates the optimised version and also copues the full res ones too, yes. Also, on the 5th gen ipod, the restrictions of the screen are met in such a way that it is completely pointless to burden the device with the conversion. You still have the full versions one the device and can access them easily through USB. Now, the iphone might be another story, but it's not what i'm getting at. The ipod still displays my photos in a way that is completely sensible, given the physical restrictions of the device.

Laughing Man 2008-07-18 22:17

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
For distribution can i put a line like.

chinook diablo

If i want access to both?

Rezigrene 2008-07-19 04:11

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
How do I jump to red pill mode and update python? I want to get my plugins to work...

GeneralAntilles 2008-07-19 04:36

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by memson (Post 204371)
Files of other type... I have never got my N800 to play *any* video without transcoding... except very low res quicktime... the type of low res quicktime that plays on ipods happily (do you see the irony there? ;-)

Yes, well, anecdotes aren't really useful metrics for measure media playback capabilities.

YoDude 2008-07-19 22:28

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
When is this expected to be released for Diablo???

If you go here >> http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/multimedia/
and click to install, it asks to enable the extras repo but when you do, it then reports that the app can not be found.

By released I mean in the correct repository with updated dependencies. :)

mfortner 2008-07-20 02:28

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
search diablo extras-devel for the URL and info to enter into a new catalog entry in the App Manager. Then disable it after installation. Otherwise you'll see dev updates that you may not be ready to work out the bugs for on your own.

YoDude 2008-07-20 11:04

Re: Canola and Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mfortner (Post 204939)
search diablo extras-devel for the URL and info to enter into a new catalog entry in the App Manager. Then disable it after installation. Otherwise you'll see dev updates that you may not be ready to work out the bugs for on your own.

Yeah but no. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me, one post up
By released I mean in the correct repository with updated dependencies.



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