Listing the remarkable projects around Maemo
 

There have been previous discussion listing cool apps and stuff, many of them gone with the wind. Now you can help getting a solid selection to be showcased permanently in maemo.org.

One of the tasks agreed in the 100 Days Action Plan is to define Maemo. There are a couple of subtasks where you can help a lot. In fact you are invited to coordinate and complete them:

- Remarkable community projects around Maemo.

- Upstream projects Maemo relies upon.

Anybody in this forum can take part in the first task. The second is more for those interested in platform components and their developer projects somewhere in the free software community.

The more you can help here, the more the maemo.org development team will be able to push other things. Thank you!

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Forgot one important detail. This is serious work. :) I want to propose both tasks as part of the second sprint of the 100 Days in our maemo.org development sprint meeting (by IRC next week, you can join).

This means that there should be at least one coordinator for each before the sprint meeting. This also means that ideally the tasks would be completed 20 days after, although there is nothing bad in delaying as far as there is real progress done.

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Have I scared you? Should I have put in the subject "LIST HERE YOUR TOP TEN APPS!" Am I being impatient...?

fwiw, Nokia will take very seriously this selection, helping the apps projects selected to be ''ready for primetime'' and promoting them extensively.

I understand is not that simple to jump and say "I will coordinate" but what is the effort that takes to start listing your preferred apps, those you consider all Maemo users should be aware of?

Post them here if you are lazy about the maemo.org wiki.

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Also developers: don't be shy about your own work. Yoi have good criteria and you can differentiate your litte hacks from the projects that take you so many brain and hours. You can also see what are the projects with more potential if someone would give you a hand.

Don't be shy, not now.

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To get things started, my favourite tablet apps (they also happen to have been recent pearls in many cases) are:

• Numpty Physics
• Maemo Recorder
• Maemo Mapper
• Vagalume
• Dates
• Contacts
• XChat
• Pidgin for Maemo
• Camera
• Abiword
• Gnumeric

Ooops - I went to 11 (and I didn't even get them all in).

Cheers,
Dave.

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Somebody got to start from some place, be it a good job or rotten tomatoes, here I am.

Goal: Develop internetTV on maemo
Work in progress:
1) WorldTV99, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19044
2) VCURLs72, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=18769

Certainly this is NOT the top app, but is certainly one of the most easy-tablet-show-off app.

Intro (?) and screenshots added, please go browse it, it took me 30 min to do it, and I WANT AUDIENCE....just kidding.


bun

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Do you have screenshots or intro page somewhere for the lazy ones willing to get a first impression?

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my 10 cent...

1: Claws mail
2: Canola2
3: Mplayer
4: GPE
5: Erminig
6: VNC viewer
7: scummVM
8: Maemopad+

well - 8 cent at least.

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Mine.

1)Canola2
2)Modest
3)mCalendar
4)Maemo Mapper
5)ScummVM
6)Battle Gweled

Canola, even if too memory consuming, is THE third party app of maemo.

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My first post after a long hiatus:

1. Canola2 with YouTube, Last.FM and Tuning (Album Art and Video Thumbnail) plugins
2. mPlayer
3. Skype

After the Diablo upgrade and reflecting on keeping only the apps that I use (and having found the tablet running a lot faster as a result), these are the only 3rd party apps that have justified their existence in my N800. Skype, however, may end up getting uninstalled as my contacts are just not being downloaded from the server as it used to do, and having an empty contact list is as useful as a glass hammer

Where I previously needed Modest, the built-in mail client works well for me now
The built-in SIP client works well with VoIPBuster for my PSTN calls

Adblock doesn't seem to work for me anymore, and neither goes Greasemonkey, otherwise they would have made it into my list above

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My favorite Maemo apps (excluding tweaks/hacks/closed source) are:

FBReader
MyTube
VNC Viewer
Vagalume

Some of these could use some UI/usability polish though. Not sure if hildonized ports like FBReader and VNC Viewer count.

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I added Xournal to the list on the Maemo.org wiki.

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canola
maemo wordpy
advanced backlight status bar
mathjinni
grandcentral dialer
rtcomm2
and of course don't forget the browser! it would be nice if more websites made n8x0-friendly sites, just as they have been developing iphone-specific ones. mimicing the iphone user agents has been a decent workaround for now, but the aspect ratio is all wrong for most sites

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maybe a tweak program...kinda like ubuntu tweak

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FBReader
GPE Contacts, Calendar & Todo
Maemopad+
Canola2
Maemo Mapper
GPXView
Garnet VM

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qgil: Regarding your comment about scaring us off. Up until this week, I had not used my maemo.org account for anything. This week, I made a conscious decision to file a bug and vote for a few that I saw after upgrading to Diablo. The recent activity on Maemo's 100 days, community council, etc has started me thinking that Maemo.org is more important to the tablet's future than I had thought. For instance, instead of complaining about a bug here on itT, which can be useful I guess, it would be better for users to look through the bugs on maemo.org and vote for them, or file a new bug. I think it requires a bit of a paradigm shift - at least that is how I perceive it. InternetTabletTalk is an important venue, but so is Maemo.org - I didn't make that realization until this week, and perhaps others on this forum are in the same boat. If that is the case, then the rebranding process that maemo.org is going through may alleviate this mental block. Some thoughts from me to you...

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I am not a developer, but owe them a lot, and I'm certainly not shy, so I just went in and added my favorites to the wiki. That's what you wanted us to do, right? As opposed to posting our lists here? ;)

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Existing top ten:

1. Browser (no one has listed this yet??)
2. Rapier (I'm the 1st to mention this too, but it is one of my essentials
3. Pidgin
4. OMWeather (again not mention yet, but who doesn't use this daily?)
5. Canola
6. Mplayer
7. GPE Summary
8. Gnumeric
9. Notes (yes, I use it daily)
10. CrazyParking (to pass time waiting in lines, etc)

What I'd like to see now:
1. GUI for cron jobs - Doesn't need to be slick. Cron is cool enough already. I even have a proposed name for it: "Cronguint"
2. Can this one be forward ported to OS2008? Or something like it?Webcam

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i see no reason to add my own list....we need to start ...maybe a poll....that would be good

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I have sorted the projects listed at https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Remarkab...unity_projects

If someone can move proposals made here to that wiki page, that would be great.

imho there is no need for polls, since polls don't give reasons per se. If it's about the ranks we have already the Best Rated and Most Downloaded at http://maemo.org/downloads

This exercise is precisely about selecting and discussing what are the top class community projects and why.

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I have posted two more applications which i use daily and not posted yet

Personal Menu - Maemo.org Link
Large Status Clock - Maemo.org Link

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Thanks for organizing this and clarifying the criteria for making changes/additions to the wiki.

I may not have gotten them all, but I managed to move a lot of the projects already mentioned in this thread (along with a couple of my favorites) to the 'proposals' section. Just to get the ball rolling, to speak...

Frankly, I am surprised there isn't more interest in this thread and in this idea. :o

In any case, I certainly like the idea of putting this list in the wiki instead of yet another 'whadda-you-like' thread. I agree with QG, this makes more sense than a poll.

And, given the audience;), it is likely to have considerable impact.

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Thanks for the help!

Now there are subsection under the Candidates and the whole thing starts to look really good: https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Remarkab...cts#Candidates

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Quim, I see MediaBox listed as "developed by Nokia". MediaBox is NOT developed by Nokia!
MediaBox is my project, as you can easily see on the project page on garage.maemo.org.
I start to get tired of fighting this misconception that MediaBox is being developed by Nokia.
There must be some bug on downloads.maemo.org which tagged my software as Nokia software.

If Nokia wants to claim ownership, then I guess they should start paying me for this software. ;)
So please move MediaBox to the candidates and have that bug on downloads.maemo.org fixed.

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It is a wiki, feel free to move it. ;)

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Sorry for the mistake, it's Sunday morning (and so it is my brain). I'm opening lots of Download pages and install files, I saw a Nokia logo and that was it.

Wiki page edited and bug filed (how long has it been there? I had no idea). No wonder that logo created misconceptions, please comment there if you find this problem elsewhere. If you can provide further details about this bug, great.

In any case we are seeing that this exercise is being useful to focus attention and increase quality in the third party offering. :)

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Yeah, I could have moved it myself, but making Quim aware of this bug was more important to me.
So I felt free to be lazy and just complain about it (for the 3rd time already, btw). ;)

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Quim, thanks a lot!
It's great to have you listening to the community even on a Sunday morning. :)
What would maemo be without you...

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How many times in http://bugs.maemo.org though? ;) I wasn't aware and I wonder whether Niels (maintainer of the Downloads section and the guy that really needs to be aware) knew about this.

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Seeing as how it wasn't fixed, I kinda doubt it. ;)

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So do I. ;)
But it finally got fixed. :)

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I have removed gpxview from that page. It just doesn't belong there.

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Can you provide a rationale for us to understand why?

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It doesn't fulfil your criteria and never was meant to do so. Putting it onto that page and noting that it's not meeting those requirements imho doesn't make any sense as it was never designed to meet them. Noone even asked me to comply to these rules, so there also doesn't seem to be any user/community demand to change this.

Hence my program doesn't belong onto that list.

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Not sure where I sit in all this, but I do think liqbase has the potential to be a remarkable package for the tablet (obviously..)

Hopefully we will end up with something worthwhile which uses the tablet to create data rather than just being a consumer.

At the moment its at proof of concept/playtesting stage so I've stuck myself in the alpha section at the bottom.

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Yes, I was just about to mention liqbase. This seems to me to have major potential.

I think that Personal Menu should come with the default software -- to me, it's better than the stuff that Nokia developed. And the same for the large status bar clock.

A major, glamorous project that no one seems to be working on is text-to-speech. There is flite, but there should be some way of reading a text document, with a decent voice. I think this is important enough that someone at Nokia should be working on it -- I'm sure that Apple is working on an equivalent project. In many quarters there seems to be a misconception that this sort of thing is for blind people. I'm not blind; I just like to have my computer read to me. To do this now, I have to run Windows. If I had a Mac, I could run that. There is no decent reader in Linux (IMHO), which is where I spend most of my time.

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Master of Gizmo, fair enough. I personally think one day it will be clear for open source developers that playing the maemo.org game is useful to reach better software quality and wider audiences. I understand if some people don't see the point today, though.

What about a "Pure R&D" subsection in the Candidates? I already had thought so with the USB Control. Alpha/beta would be intrynsical but still extras-devel (and probably not extras) and proper Download page in maemo.org would be a must.

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This goes a bit beyond the point but...

Do you remember the Puppy Robots developed by Nokia in R&D mode? They do text-to-speech.

Look at https://garage.maemo.org/projects/robot/ (including open source package) and contact the developers if you are interested in knowing more.

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No, it appears that the project was last updated in 2006. Would those people still be hanging around waiting for an email from me?

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I insist, contact the developers if you are interested in knowing more. :)